The Unstarving Musician

Roberto R Hernandez

The Unstarving Musician features weekly interviews with independent musicians, songwriters, producers, and music industry professionals who share their experience and expertise on recording, touring, marketing, the business of music, and more. This is all intended to help independent DIY music artists better understand the marketing, business and creative processes that help us create sustainable and profitable music careers.

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Making Maroon 5, Losing It All, and Finding Recovery – Ryan Dusick (Ep 238)
Sep 16 2022
Making Maroon 5, Losing It All, and Finding Recovery – Ryan Dusick (Ep 238)
My guest for this episode is Ryan Dusick. Ryan is the founding drummer of Maroon 5, an Associate Marriage & Family Therapist, and author of Harder to Breathe: A Memoir of Making Maroon 5, Losing It All, and Finding Recovery (out November 2022). In 1994, Ryan Dusick joined friends Adam Levine, Jesse Carmichael, and Mickey Madden to form the band Kara's Flowers. They released the album The Fourth World in '97. Following the termination of their record deal, the band went on hiatus and everyone went their separate ways.  In 2001, Dusick reunited with Levine, Madden and Carmichael. They were joined by former Square guitarist James Valentine. The group changed their name to Maroon 5 and set to work writing new songs for what would become the award winning album Songs About Jane.  The band scored several hit singles, was named Best New Artist at the 47th Grammy Awards and in 2006 won the Grammy for Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group, with Vocal for the live version of This Love.  Ryan is now releasing an intimate, behind-the-scenes look at his journey from the highs of international superstardom to the depths of addiction, anxiety, chronic injury, and depression. His book Harder to Breathe chronicles Ryan’s remarkable recovery and his transition from the music industry to professional counseling where he’s helped hundreds of clients overcome mental and physical health challenges. He is indeed a true success story and wholly dedicated to sharing the message that recovery is not only achievable but that life after addiction can yield incredible results. I so enjoyed speaking with him about his music journey and renewed outlook on life. You can find Ryan on Instagram @ryan_michael_dusick. Please enjoy! This episode is brought to you by the Morning Tempo podcast, a podcast on which yours truly attempts to explore the intersection between busines and creativity. This month's featured "Best Of" episode is a conversation with me and author Angie K. Love. Hear this and other Morning Tempo episodes on Apple Podcasts. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Mentioned in this Episode Ben Bella Books Harder to Breathe: A Memoir of Making Maroon 5, Losing It All, and Finding Recovery by Ryan Dusick Kara's Flowers New Gods Part 2 by Robonzo (music video) Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Making Maroon 5, Losing It All, and Finding Recovery – Ryan Dusick (Ep 238)
Sep 16 2022
Making Maroon 5, Losing It All, and Finding Recovery – Ryan Dusick (Ep 238)
My guest for this episode is Ryan Dusick. Ryan is the founding drummer of Maroon 5, an Associate Marriage & Family Therapist, and author of Harder to Breathe: A Memoir of Making Maroon 5, Losing It All, and Finding Recovery (out November 2022). In 1994, Ryan Dusick joined friends Adam Levine, Jesse Carmichael, and Mickey Madden to form the band Kara's Flowers. They released the album The Fourth World in '97. Following the termination of their record deal, the band went on hiatus and everyone went their separate ways.  In 2001, Dusick reunited with Levine, Madden and Carmichael. They were joined by former Square guitarist James Valentine. The group changed their name to Maroon 5 and set to work writing new songs for what would become the award winning album Songs About Jane.  The band scored several hit singles, was named Best New Artist at the 47th Grammy Awards and in 2006 won the Grammy for Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group, with Vocal for the live version of This Love.  Ryan is now releasing an intimate, behind-the-scenes look at his journey from the highs of international superstardom to the depths of addiction, anxiety, chronic injury, and depression. His book Harder to Breathe chronicles Ryan’s remarkable recovery and his transition from the music industry to professional counseling where he’s helped hundreds of clients overcome mental and physical health challenges. He is indeed a true success story and wholly dedicated to sharing the message that recovery is not only achievable but that life after addiction can yield incredible results. I so enjoyed speaking with him about his music journey and renewed outlook on life. You can find Ryan on Instagram @ryan_michael_dusick. Please enjoy! This episode is brought to you by the Morning Tempo podcast, a podcast on which yours truly attempts to explore the intersection between busines and creativity. This month's featured "Best Of" episode is a conversation with me and author Angie K. Love. Hear this and other Morning Tempo episodes on Apple Podcasts. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Mentioned in this Episode Ben Bella Books Harder to Breathe: A Memoir of Making Maroon 5, Losing It All, and Finding Recovery by Ryan Dusick Kara's Flowers New Gods Part 2 by Robonzo (music video) Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Why Do I Need A Musician Website? (Ep 237)
Sep 9 2022
Why Do I Need A Musician Website? (Ep 237)
The title of this episode is Why do I need a musician website? This is a question I hear in my head anytime I encounter musicians who don't have a website. These same musicians and bands typically use social media as their only means of online presence and marketing. Sometimes they have an email list, other times not. The topics covering the reasons you need a website, actually applies to any business or entrepreneurial venture. They also apply to just about any thematic idea or concept that you share exclusively on social media. More on that momentarily. As a side note, I'll use the words 'musician' and 'band' interchangeably, as this applies to both. I'd like to acknowledge Bandzoogle and their blog article 10 reasons why you need a website. This well written article covers all of the important points I share in this episode. A music website tells industry professionals that you take your music seriously. These industry professionals include venues, PR agencies, labels, talent buyers, media outlets, and fans. Your music website is also a space that you own and control, unlike social media platforms where you (we) are the product. Have you ever heard stories about people running a business or community exclusively on a popular social media platform, only to have the whole thing dismantled by algorithm changes? I have. I've sadly heard more than one of these stories. You own the experience with a musician or band website, because you create and completely control the content therin. Everything about you is in one place, which makes it easy for industry pros and fans to help promote your music. Your website also helps music pros and supporters understand who you are as a musician.   A website enables you to create a unique brand that will showcase your vibe and personality, and it’s significantly more permanent than anything you can possibly do on social media. As I recorded this episode, Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok are great platforms to promote your band and your music, but they are all subject you to changes in algorithms and even buy-outs that can have a devastating impact on your music endeavors. Owning a musician website means that you aren't at the mercy of paid posts or low organic reach. You can direct anybody to your website at any time. Remmeber–not everyone uses social media, but will be able to see and interact with your website.  A website can be designed in any way you can imagine. This means you can show your band's unique personality, without the confines of a feed or a restricted number of characters. A musician website can be based on your latest album artwork, or set to a visual tone that reflects the vibe of your  music. The possibilities are limited only by your imagination. And you can get as personal as you would on social media with blog posts, photos and exclusive offers. Compelling content that shows off your music is the reason fans will keep returning. You can also use your website to sell music and merch (merchandise) directly to fans. As you begin to build or grow your fanbase, you can and should include merch and music to your website. I recommendn that you also include an EPK (electronic press kit) on your website.  Count on booking agents and promoters will check out your website before booking you for a show. Use this to your advantage by showcasing your best work and including your most recent music and videos in an EPK on your website. You can also use an EPK to garner press for an upcoming release or for radio station outreach. A musician website is great for organic SEO (search engine optimization). You can do a number of things that will make your website search friendly, and much of this is what I consider low-hanging fruit. That's the easy stuff that just about anyone can do, such as adding text that mentions your artist/band name and your latest music, and choosing a custom domain based on your band name. Google and other popular search engines will match your band keywords (album titles, tracks, band members, etc) to your website, which makes your site search friendly. Having your music website come up in top search results gives it more authority than a social media account. A musician website is also one of the best vehicles for building your email list, and reaching fans by email is still one of the best ways to create direct-to-fan connections. You can offer a free track download in exchange for an email address to build momentum with your list. Keeping in touch regularly by email is also an excellent way to promote upcoming releases, tour dates, crowdfunding campaigns, new videos and more. A website allows you to gain insight into fan data. Go as deep as your heart desires with website metrics, so that you can tailor your marketing efforts. There are third party tools abound for this. You truly do have complete control with a website, where the exact opposite is true with social media. Your website is your very own online hub for posting and curating content. Create a website that personifies your sound and speaks to your audience. You can also use your website to create real relationships with your fans and take them along the journey as you release your next single single, showcase your next music video, or announce upcoming performances and tours.  If you're serious about your music, you’ll want to invest in a website. It truly can be a one-stop shop on the web for your music, bio, merch, press kit and more. A website will boost your professionalism with music industry pros and fans, all within your own unique design.  Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Mentioned in this Episode 10 reasons why you need a music website (Bandzoogle article) New Gods Part 2 (new video by Robonzo) Rick Beato on the Theory of Popular Music S.G. Goodman WTF podcast episode w/S.G. Goodman Dark Waters Related Episodes Lucky Beats Good Sometimes – Chris Raspante Rewind (Ep 235) Guitarist and Studio Engineer In Demand–Chris Raspante (Ep 186) A Musician with Over 800 Tracks on Kompoz–Peter Rand (Ep 177) New Gods Part 2 Co-Writer Peter Rand (Ep 205) Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com to sign up for Liner Notes to learn what I'm learning from the best indie musicians and music industry professionals. Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube Robonzo (Roberto R Hernandez)
It's Really All About Networking–Musician Lara Price (Ep 236)
Aug 17 2022
It's Really All About Networking–Musician Lara Price (Ep 236)
In this episode Lara Price and I discuss the hosting jams, why jams make you a better musician and why they help you get gigs. We also talk about how acoustic performances are great for otherwise electric only bands and artists, how music education helped her develop a common language among musicians, and what it means to work with the right label. Lara also shares networking advice for the shy musicians among us and a few great marketing tips and reminders. This is the third installment of my new Rewind episodes, in which I revisit past conversations for a deeper dive into the tips, hacks and insights they offered. I hope you're enjoying them, because they've proven to be a lot of work. But they've been very fun too. I'll likely rotate some new interviews back into the show very soon. I'm starting to miss them. :) Lara and I met around 2001 at a blues jam she was running at JJ's Blues (now known as JJ's Lounge) in San Jose, California. She says there was a lot of learning going on at that moment in time. Lara was using the jam to get her own band ready to do shows and she wholeheartedly believes jam sessions make us better musicians. This is such a Timely topic for me, having recently moved to a new city in a new country and finding myself starting over. Lara made some very helpful points about jams and networking. She also offers advice for running a jam and for attending jams, adding that running one can be difficult if you're not organized. I was reminded that setting jammers up to win, while entertaining the regulars is super important. Lara points out that jams can be extremely helpful in getting gigs. When you're around your own tribe, as you are at a jam, you can share your challenges, seek advice and get support. "It's really all about the networking," says Lara. Most of the musicians Lara works with to this day are lifelong friends she met at jams. I asked Lara about her then new album I Mean Business, a project that began in peril, but ultimately delivered big wins and a memorable experience. Lara took advantage of what looked like a bad situation and sought out a producer in Kid Andersen of Greaseland Studio. Guess where they met? At a jam. Kid was the first producer she'd ever had and things couldn't have gone better. I also asked Lara why she thought that some musicians don't venture into the world of acoustic performance. We continue with Lara's reflection on her music education, her thoughts on working with labels, embracing accolades and the networking opportunities that come with them. Our discussion concludes with Lara's tips on marketing and this memorable quote. "Don't let people say that you can't do something... I mean, I'm a Vietnamese person singing blues." –Lara Price. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Visit UnstarvingMusician.com for links related to this episode. This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Mentioned in this Episode Humble Beginnings and Mean Business in Austin–Lara Price (Ep 4)  Today’s Indie Musician—Lara Price (Ep 166) Starting Over in Austin–Lara Price (Ep 47) On Top of The World–Lara Price Interviews Robonzo About Debut Single (Ep 188) Kid Andersen on Greaseland Studios, Playing The Blues, Musicianship and Music Ed (Ep 3)  Creating Music to Discover Who He Is – Chris Taylor  Secrets of Creativity–Chris Taylor (Ep97) Eric Clapton Unplugged We Are – new track from Spigots  Lovers, Thieves, Fools + Pretenders by Chris Taylor  Cherry Moon – New video by Ezra Vancil Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Lucky Beats Good Sometimes – Chris Raspante Rewind (Ep 235)
Jul 22 2022
Lucky Beats Good Sometimes – Chris Raspante Rewind (Ep 235)
This episode features musician and recording engineer Chris Raspante. It's a second look at our conversation recorded in May of 2017. It's a rewind episode, in which I dig deeper into past conversations. It's also an attempt to uncover insights that were perhaps lost in our collective note taking. This is intended to better serve you and the rest of the professional music community. Hear the very first rewind episode featuring Mike Dawson. Chris has worked with many well known Nashville artists including Travis Tritt, the Dixie Chicks and Stan Lynch among others. His successes stem from a leap of faith, putting in the work, playing the long game and a little luck. The conversation begins with how Chris got his start in Nashville as a recording engineer and session player. It's a discussion on how be became sought after engineer and player. Chis was invited in the late 90s to visit and work with friend  and professional songwriter Jon Christopher Davis. The invitation was specifically to work with Davis on song writing demos and to meet people in the Nashville scene. Chris took Davis up on the invitation and commuted between Dallas-Fort Worth and Nashville for over a year. He was almost immediately invoicing Davis' record label for recording work. Chris reflects on this time as a period as his slow but sure entry into the Nashville music business. Referrals eventually began to come his way, increasing his visibility and income. Chris also reflects on the changes that occurred during his time in Nashville and the man y changes that have happened since. He describes the landscape of music and work as very competitive. He also recalls overcoming objections that came at him for using a home studio setup. Recording in a home studio wasn't yet a thing, but it soon would be. Chris shares details of the studio setup and recording methods he was using, methods that would eventually become common in recording. Tagging along for sessions with Davis lead to meeting people in the business and opportunities to make studio contributions. People in the business started asking for Chris. He says he was doing all this by the seat of his pants, but I suspect it was more intuitive than he gives credit. Then a stroke of luck happened when Chris was invited to join Jace Everett to perform on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno. Chris had worked with Jace on the recording of a song called Bad Things, which caught the interest of the Tonight Show. That same song would also catch the interest of HBO and would eventually become the theme song for the hit series True Blood. Chris says he was the only non a-list player to work in the those album session, an opportunity he attributes to his friendship and working relationship with Jace Everett. He also says it was all a lucky fluke that the Everett was picked up by the Tonight Show and True Blood, but even more so that he and several others were taken along for the ride. As we discuss the significance of being an indie musician, Chris noted that the industry was changing dramatically every couple of years. This pace of change has obviously continued since. But it was the internet that changed everything in Chris' memory. The internet shifted  the focus from music sales to live shows and fanbase development. The album became a glorified business card for everything else artists do, a reality that's still true today. On the upside of all these changes, Chris feels that the live music industry flourished. As we discuss marketing himself, Chris states simply that networking and reputation are everything in music. He adds that if you're nice, fun, dependable and prepared, good things will happen. After re listening to our conversation, I decided that he could add humility to this list. Chris has plenty of it.  Hear my full conversation with Chris recorded in May of 2017. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Mentioned in this Episode Jace Everett - Bad Things (Official Video) Mike Dawson on Gigging, Studio Gear, Music Ed, Early Music Influences, Marketing, and YouTube (Ep 1) Chris Raspante on Serendipity, Networking, Reputation, Nashville, and The Wonders of Today’s Talent (Ep 002) Making Music with an Open Heart and Mind – Jon Christopher Davis Crossing Paths with Jace Everett Visit UnstarvingMusician.com for links related to this episode. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Dynamics, Creative Recording And Getting Gigs – Mike Dawson Rewind (Ep 234)
Jul 8 2022
Dynamics, Creative Recording And Getting Gigs – Mike Dawson Rewind (Ep 234)
This episode features Mike Dawson on dynamics, creative recording, getting gigs and more. It’s the first ever rewind episode of the Unstarving Musician, based on episode one of the podcast. In rewind episodes I’m digging deep into past conversations to further mine insights. The hope is that I’ll uncover insights that were perhaps lost in our collective note taking. This is of course intended to serve music professionals like you. Mike is the former managing editor at Modern Drummer Magazine. He is now Chief Creative Officer at Drum Factory Direct. He's also host of the Drum Candy podcast, described as the definitive podcast for gear-obsessed drummers. His education includes a Masters in Music Performance from University of the Arts Philadelphia, music studies at West Virginia University and many years of high school band. His education is a relevant part of our conversation, and I believe very relevant to who he is professionally.  Mike has had a great career performing in the music business, in part thanks to his education. But don't be discouraged if you lack formal music education. Mike also says that among his peers, about half are self-taught.  I am in fact self-taught and have always  been able to play when, where and with whom I want. And that comes with the other part of being like Mike, the part that involves keeping relationships alive and working on your craft. Mike and I also discuss dynamics, something I learned thanks to the bit of formal education that I do have. Mike shares about the importance his education had on dynamics and why it matters. The skill of dynamics seems to be lost on lots of otherwise good musicians–drummers especially. All musicians benefit from developing good dynamics and by learning how to lead a band in dynamic changes. It’s hard to find musicians who can play quietly and with a good sense of dynamics. So give yourself a leg-up by working on your dynamics and on leading other musicians dynamic changes. Mike also talks about his passion for anything that’s authentic and emotional. He was working on a few different projects of varying styles when we spoke. These varied projects presented challenges that Mike really enjoyed at the time. I’m sure he still pursuing a wide variety of passion projects today. This speaks to the value of being a diverse musician and being open to trying new things for the sake of a challenge, and for the sake of personal growth in your art. Diversity and discipline have allowed Mike to work in a wide range professional gigs. Mike and I also cover his passion for recording and experimentation in the studio. He loves the art of recording. It’s even become his morning meditation of exploration and creative practice. This practice allows him to create something new almost daily. Mike shares his recipe for nurturing and leveraging his creativity. One important aspect of Mike’s mornings is that he looked at the limits of his schedule and made the decision to work in early morning creative time. It’s Mike’s way of starting the day in a creatively productive way. Other topics we discuss include his self-care routine, marketing, social media trolls and business tips. Find Mike on Instagram @MikeDawsonDrums.  Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Mentioned in this Episode Visit UnstarvingMusician.com for links related to this episode. This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Creating a business around your music and artistic sides–Fabiana Claure (Ep 233)
Jun 10 2022
Creating a business around your music and artistic sides–Fabiana Claure (Ep 233)
Fabiana Claure is a concert pianist and educator who has created a business around her music and artistic sides. Teaching others how to do the same is her passion. Fabiana resides in the U.S., but has also lived in Bolivia and Cuba. She says that living abroad has given her a helpful global perspective toward music, entrepreneurship and education. She founded The Musician’s Profit Umbrella® business mentorship program for musicians. Fabiana was also Founder and Director of the Music Business and Entrepreneurship program at the University of North Texas, which is not far from my hometown of Fort Worth. She holds a Doctor of Musical Arts in Piano Performance degree with cognates in Music Business and Entertainment Industries from the University of Miami. She received a master's a from Southern Methodist University and a bachelor's from College of Charleston. Her credentials run deep in education, music performance and entrepreneurship. You can learn more about her street cred at  fabianaclaure.com. In this conversation... In this conversation Fabiana and I discuss living and growing up abroad, her adventures in education and as faculty at North Texas University, the concept of aligning artistic, personal, and professional strengths into a unified sense of identity, her Musician’s Profit Umbrella mentorship program, creating a business while staying true to one's artistic side, and more. Fabiana periodically runs an online master class, in which you can get an idea of what she and The Musician’s Profit Umbrella are all about. I encourage you to learn more about that at fabianaclaure.com. Please enjoy my conversation with Fabiana Claure. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Mentioned in this Episode Visit UnstarvingMusician.com for links related to this episode. This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Kevin Breuner On Small Town Poets, CD Baby, Music Distribution And DIY Musician Education (Ep 232)
May 20 2022
Kevin Breuner On Small Town Poets, CD Baby, Music Distribution And DIY Musician Education (Ep 232)
Kevin Breuner of CD Baby joins me in this episode to discuss music distribution, education for the DIY musician, his journey with CD Baby, his band Small Town Poets, and the DIY Musician podcast. CD Baby started out as a place where musicians could circumvent the middleman by selling music CDs direct to fans. It has since evolved into an artist-services platform that helps independent musicians to distribute, promote, and monetize their music outside of the major-label system. Kevin recently celebrated 16 years with CD Baby. When he joined the company, his job was to talking artists. Now he's SVP of Engagement and Education. Kevin also started DIY Musician podcast and he's part of the team that heads up the DIY Music Conference, which returns in August 2022, following a hiatus that was driven by the COVID-19 pandemic. In this conversation, Kevin and I talk about remote work, the return of his band Small Town Poets, CD Baby (of course), education overwhelm that indie artists face, recent changes in the music industry, music distribution and more. Follow Kevin on Instagram @KBreuner. Hear the DIY Musician Podcast at Podcast.CDBaby.com. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Mentioned in this Episode Visit UnstarvingMusician.com for links related to this episode. This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
The Mystery of The Flounder – Cozi Anda Flounder (Ep 231)
Apr 29 2022
The Mystery of The Flounder – Cozi Anda Flounder (Ep 231)
My conversations with Cozi and Ezra Vancil did not reveal the mystery of the flounder that is Cozi Anda Flounder. I assume that Ezra is the flounder, but they weren't exactly forthcoming about the meaning of the flounder. Ezra implied that the band has vowed never to speak of the flounder.  The duo are the founding members of Cozi Anda Flounder. In this episode, I speak with Cozi and Ezra in two separate conversations, which were originally intended to be two separate episodes. My first conversation is with Cozi Vancil, the young and sultry voice of Cozi Anda Flounder.  Ezra has also appeared in episodes 42, 182 and 187 (links below). They had recently released their first EP called The Place, when Cozi and I spoke. Cozi had previously tracked vocals on and cowrote a song called Parables, which was on Ezra's Family Songbook album. Cozi is the second teenager I've interviewed for this podcast, the other being Radio Disney artist Samantha LaPorta (ep 26). I confess that I find teenagers challenging as an interviewer. I enjoy speaking with them and always have, but I've decided there's a slightly different skill set needed to get the good questions in with teenagers. That's what I've decided and I'm going to solicit advice on how to ask better questions of any future teenage guests. Cozi is an interesting and delightful person. I just felt like I could have done better. I don't know. We had fun nonetheless, or I did anyway. In this conversation w/CoziIn this conversation Cozi and I talk about songwriting, her music influences, working with her dad Ezra, learning the ropes of the music business, growing as a vocalist and songwriter, and a wee bit more. This episode marks is Ezra's fourth appearance on the Unstarving Musician. One of those episodes was Ezra interviewing me about my debut single On Top Of The World, which I've not mentioned in a while. Yes, I've written and recorded a couple of tunes.  You can find links to my music on your music platform of choice by visiting Robonzo.com. Ezra's a lot of fun to speak with, so our chat ultra casual.  In this conversation w/Ezra In this conversation Ezra and I talk about Cozi Anda Flounder, his various other projects, funding his music projects, At Home Records (Ezra's label), separation between artist and label, marketing as an artist, the 90s movement, the evolution of Cozi, live shows, nerves, preparation, falling down, his new studio, the next Cozi Anda Flounder album, and more, more, more. You can hear Cozi Anda Flounder wherever fine music is found and at CoziAndaFlounder.com. Please enjoy my conversations with Cozi and Ezra of Cozi Anda Flounder. Bandzoogle adds built-in Smart Links and Landing Pages for musicians Music website platform Bandzoogle has added a built-in Smart Links feature as well as custom Landing pages to their suite of tools for musicians. The new Smart Links feature allow musicians to easily sell albums and singles directly to their fans commission-free, and link to their music on popular streaming platforms all from a single mobile-friendly page on their own website.  Bandzoogle has also added Landing pages for musicians. These Landing pages can be customized to reflect the goal of their marketing campaign, from selling album pre-orders, offering limited edition merchandise, selling tickets, or building their mailing list. Learn more at Bandzoogle.com and Use promo code “robonzo” to get 15% off the first year of any subscription. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Mentioned in this Episode CoziAndaFlounder.com Ezra Vancil The Place First Aid Kit Rolling Thunder Revue: A Bob Dylan Story by Martin Scorsese Tom Petty Somewhere You Feel Free Gypsy Tree Related Episodes A Hidden Album Collection Discovery–Ezra Vancil (Ep 42) Keeping Your Side of the Street Clean–Ezra Vancil (Ep 182) On Top Of The World – Ezra Vancil Interviews Robonzo About Debut Single (Ep 187) Terry LaPorta On Being Parent and Manager of Teen Pop Star & Radio Disney Artist Samantha LaPorta (Ep 26) This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Stick To Your Guns And Your Vision–Harrison Marcello (Ep 230)
Apr 9 2022
Stick To Your Guns And Your Vision–Harrison Marcello (Ep 230)
Stick to your guns and your vision is what Harrison Marcello of the rock band TEMPT recommends to young bands. This, he says, helps bands stay ready for whatever projects may come their way. He’s a founding member, guitarist and one of the songwriters in TEMPT. The New York City based band has a love for the old school 80s rock sound, which I believe gives them a melodic and pop sensibility. TEMPT reminded me of Def Leppard upon first listen. The band’s younger audiences likely hear them as fresh and new, from a genre perspective. Old guys like me think, “Cool, that sounds familiar. I like it.” Harrison and I remarkably have very similar tastes and experiences with rock music. In our conversation Harrison and I talk about TEMPT’s forthcoming album, their single Living Dangerous, featuring DOROTHY, creating content specifically for fans, business strategy, the formation of TEMPT, their big takeaway from the pandemic, and more. You can learn more about Harrison and his band TEMPT at TemptBand.com. Please enjoy my conversation with Harrison Marcello of TEMPT. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Mentioned in this Episode Related Episodes This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Showing Up Again And Again – Peter Wilson of Four Trips Ahead (Ep 229)
Mar 25 2022
Showing Up Again And Again – Peter Wilson of Four Trips Ahead (Ep 229)
Peter Wilson and his bandmates in Four Trips Ahead have been showing up again and again to build a following around their music. The New York based hard rock band punched their way through the pandemic by releasing new music and preparing for the return of live music. In this conversation we talk about Peter's vinyl collection, his band's journey into self producing, comparisons and genres used to describe the band's music, radio expectations for hard rock, Peter's interest in reaching latin markets, generating income during the pandemic, and more. Peter and Four Trips Ahead have been at it since 2003. One of their latest releases is an EP called Remnants, which can be find on all the popular music platforms. Learn more about the band and their music at FourTripsAhead.com. Please enjoy my conversation with Peter Wilson of Four Trips Ahead. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Mentioned in this Episode FourTripsAhead.com This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
The Secret To Writing And Recording Songs To Completion – Marc Dold (Ep 228)
Mar 11 2022
The Secret To Writing And Recording Songs To Completion – Marc Dold (Ep 228)
The secret to writing and recording songs to completion is something that Marc Dold wants to share with all musicians. He is a songwriter, platinum-selling producer, Apple certified Logic Instructor and indie artist known as Mawk Phoenix. This is Marc’s 3rd appearance on the podcast. Celebrating The Wins And Struggles Along The Way—Mawk Phoenix (Ep 131) Today’s Indie Musician—Mawk Phoenix (Ep 165) Marc was living in Malta, but had relocated to nearby Gozo when we spoke for this episode. If you’re like me you may need a clue as to where these places are. They are islands in the central Mediterranean between Sicily and the North African coast. Marc and I reconnected as he was finishing up a course called Musical Architects, which he describes as a practical workshop that teaches how to write, arrange, record, produce, mix and finalize a song. Marc has produced and re-mixed for more than 50 major artists such as Nelly Furtado, Luis Fonsi, Paul van Dyk, Peter Gabriel, En Vogue, Alice Cooper, Cindi Lauper, Luther Vandross, Erasure, and many more, leading to several top 5 Billboard Hits including 2 #1 Hits. Needless to say, he’s qualified to teach you and me how to get it done. Topics of discussion… We talk a about his upcoming album and he asks me about my experience recording songs (my first two singles). Also discussed: Marc’s Musical Architects course, getting stuck in the recording process, how he starts his days with deep work in mind, and house concerts. On the topic of Deep Work, Marc mentions a book he was then reading called Deep Work by Cal Newport. Since our conversation for this episode, I heard an interview with the author on the Tim Ferris Show, one of my favorite podcasts. I have since added Deep Work to my reading list. Cal Newport has his own podcast, which I’m now enjoying (link in the show notes below). Please enjoy this conversation with me and Marc Dold. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Mentioned in this Episode Musical Architects course by Marc Marc on Instagram MawkPhoenix.com Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World by Cal Newport Deep Questions podcast with Cal Newport Related Episodes Celebrating The Wins And Struggles Along The Way—Mawk Phoenix (Ep 131) Today’s Indie Musician—Mawk Phoenix (Ep 165) This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube Leave voice feedback on Robonzo’s Speakpipe page
Creativity, Music, Entrepreneurship and Leadership – David Andrew Wiebe (Ep 227)
Feb 25 2022
Creativity, Music, Entrepreneurship and Leadership – David Andrew Wiebe (Ep 227)
David Andrew Wiebe thinks about creativity, music, entrepreneurship and leadership in everything he does. He is a musician, composer and published author with three best sellers. Among his books is the 2022 edition of The Music Entrepreneur Code, which David says is more ninja than its predecessor. He is also the host/creator of The New Music Industry Podcast, and he wants to share what he knows with musicians that want to get ahead. Hear David Andrew Wiebe in his first appearance on the Unstarving Musician (Ep 132). In this conversation we discuss his Elite Players: All Access Pass project, mindset, confidence, incremental success tracking, re prioritizing milestones, his forthcoming album, the leadership program in which he participates, and the updated more ninja Music Entrepreneur Code book. Hear the continuation of our conversation on The New Music Industry Podcast with David Andrew Wiebe. Find all things David Andrew Wiebe at MusiceEntrepreneurHQ.com Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Visit our Crowd Sponsor page Mentioned in this Episode Music Entrepreneur HQ Elite Players: All Access Pass The Music Entrepreneur Code – 2022 Edition (pre-orders) Sahakarini Team, Management, and Leadership Program Do The Hard Thing First—David Andrew Wiebe (Ep 132) Growth – Robonzo of The Unstarving Musician (New Music Industry Podcast interview) Stay in touch! Leave voice feedback on Robonzo’s Speakpipe page This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
We Are All Musicians Now – Zack O'Malley Greenburg (Ep 226)
Feb 14 2022
We Are All Musicians Now – Zack O'Malley Greenburg (Ep 226)
Zack O'Malley Greenburg is working on a new book project called We Are All Musicians Now. He calls artists canaries in the coal mine of modern business. Zack has written a a few books on hip hop, which include the Jay-Z biography Empire State of Mind and A-List Angels: How a Band of Actors, Artists and Athletes Hacked Silicon Valley. He was a senior editor at Forbes for about ten years. He has also written for the Rolling Stone, Vanity Fair, Los Angeles Times, Variety, Billboard, Vibe, Sports Illustrated and several other big and noteworthy publications. Lending even more legitimacy to his knowledge, Zack has profiled the likes of Jay-Z, P Diddy and Dr Dre throughout his career. This is Zack's second appearance on the Unstarving Musician. He first appeared in episode episode 149 back in May of 2020. In this conversation we cover his move from Forbes to Substack, his book We Are All Musicians Now, his Substack, niche writing, the exodus from big media outlets, the relationship between indie artists & super fans, the rise of the super fan, NFTs, teachings from hip hop, intellectual property and more. Find Zack at ZogBlog.co and ZogBlog on Twitter. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Visit our Crowd Sponsor page Mentioned in this Episode Zack O'Malley Greenburg on Substack ZOGreenburg.com Empire State of Mind: How Jay Z Went from Street Corner to Corner Office by Zack O'Malley Greenburg A-List Angels: How a Band of Actors, Artists, and Athletes Hacked Silicon Valley by Zack O'Malley Greenburg Dr Mari Gabriella The New Music Industry Podcast / Music Entrepreneur HQ Related Episodes How Creators Can Become Owners—Zack O’Malley Greenburg (Ep 149) Do The Hard Thing First—David Andrew Wiebe (Ep 132) Robonzo on episode 259 of The New Music Industry Podcast – Growth Robonzo on episode 164 of The New Music Industry Podcast – How to be a Happy & Profitable Live Performer This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure)  Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube Robonzo (Roberto R Hernandez)
Being A Successful Gigging Musician – Jared Judge (Ep 225)
Jan 28 2022
Being A Successful Gigging Musician – Jared Judge (Ep 225)
Jared Judge is dissecting everything that goes into being a successful gigging musician. He’s doing this on his Gigging Musician Podcast, in his book Gigging Secrets: The Underground Playbook to Making A Living Performing and with his music business app BookLive. We think very much alike about gigging and Jared’s story is great. He graduated from music school with a Bachelors in Music Education and a Masters in Orchestral Conducting. After graduation the advice given to Jared by his music school was to go out get auditions. Jared was ready to get to work as a musician and conductor. Auditions unfortunately proved to not be the best path forward. Guess what Jared ended up doing? He took business classes and doing he says that doing so was game changing. Now he’s making it a good income as a gigging musician and is building a real business around his music. In this conversation we cover private event opportunities, how Jared got his start in private events, marketing yourself as a musician, selling yourself as a musician, treating your music like a business, Jared’s book Gigging Secrets and his music business app BookLive. I really enjoyed this conversation and have a feeling Jared and I will be keeping in touch with one another. Find Jared on Facebook and Instagram (@jaredjudge) to learn more about how he’s dissecting everything that goes into being a successful gigging musician. Please enjoy my conversation with Jared Judge. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Visit our Crowd Sponsor page Mentioned in this Episode BookLive app for musicians Gigging Secrets: The Underground Playbook to Making A Living Performing Jared on Instagram How to Earn More Per Gig (Gigging Musician podcast episode) Related Episodes Gig Gab Podcast Interviews Roberto Paul Kent Talks The Houserockers, Gig Gab, Relationships, and Music Collaboration Dave Hamilton on Music Theory, Home Recording, The Business of Music, and Divas This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Building A Stock And Originals Music Library With Independent Musicians–Ori Winokur (Ep 224)
Jan 14 2022
Building A Stock And Originals Music Library With Independent Musicians–Ori Winokur (Ep 224)
Ori Winokur is Head of Music at Artlist, a stock music licensing company that was in 2021 named one of the hottest startups in Tel Aviv by WIRED.  Stock music isn't for everyone. The concept may in fact be a turn off for many musicians. This episode may change some minds.  Artlist’s platform provides users with straightforward licensing agreements and AI-powered recommendations. Ori has two decades of experience as a producer and is an expert on copyright and royalties, tech trends and innovation in the recording space, A&R, and digital distribution.  Ori and Artlist are dedicated to building the a music library using songs by  independent musicians. The also claim to be dedicated to compensating musicians fairly for their  contributions. The Unstarving Musician is made possible through the generosity of its listeners. If you love the podcast, please visit UnstarvingMusician.com/CrowdSponsor to learn about options for offering your support. Ori helped established  a  production house and full-service record label within the  platform called Artlist Original.  Discussed in this episode: Stock music as an outlet for indie musiciansArtist retention of rights in the AL world of stock music worldThe royalty models at Artlist and the industryThe evolution of the music creator ecosystem How big brands are using ArtlistArtlist's revenue model The artist submission process Learn more about Artlist at Artlist.io. Please enjoy my conversation with Ori Winokur of Artlist. Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Success On TikTok Was Good Until It Wasn't–Seth King (Ep 223)
Dec 31 2021
Success On TikTok Was Good Until It Wasn't–Seth King (Ep 223)
Singer songwriter Seth King found that success on TikTok was good, until it wasn’t. When we connected he had over 180K followers on the videocentric social network. Seth was taken by surprise with his TikTok success, but he embraced it. Today he's more focused on new music releases and Spotify. With over 300K plays on Spotify, Seth is planning a 13-song album release in the New Year. This will follow his 2021 EP and singles releases. Seth is a traveling musician and was based in Bali, Indonesia when we spoke for this episode. He actually quit music at the age of 21 to pursue journalism and film. He was working in film when TikTok helped him rediscover his love for music. Going into this interview, I was interested in learning about Seth's experience with TikTok. Our conversation unfolds in unexpected and interesting ways, but he shares a great deal of music marketing tips and insights. Among the topics we covered are: How performing has played into his decision to leave BaliHow success on TikTok was good, until it wasn'tThe regional nature of TikTokGoing from about 200K to 10K streams by shifting focus from TikTok to play-listingHow PR companies can leave you with no connections of your ownAvoiding the loneliness that can result from working as a solo artist While I forgot to ask Seth how he would genre-fy himself, I've decided he's a pop artist. He has a great voice and clearly loves all aspects of making music. He also loves playing live, in-real-life for true listening audiences. Find all things Seth King online on his LinkTree @SethKingMusic. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Visit our Crowd Sponsor page Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Translating Perfectionism And Passion Into Music–Michael Gilbride (Ep 222)
Dec 17 2021
Translating Perfectionism And Passion Into Music–Michael Gilbride (Ep 222)
Michael Gilbride of telco has translated perfectionism and passion into his latest release please come home. He joins me to talk about his musical perfectionism, getting a late start on his music endeavors, and how not to have fun while making an EP. These are all themes with which I can relate. This is our second conversation for the podcast. Hear our first conversation in episode 198. Most of our conversation for this episode felt like we were pissing and moaning about how hard it is to make, publish and promote music. We’re actually breaking down the range of emotions that independent musicians can experience while recording, publishing and releasing music. Michael has relocated to New York City since we last spoke, where he now has a dedicated home studio. It’s here that he plans to continue translating his perfectionist and passion filled persona into music. He certainly channeled this and a lot of other emotions into his EP please come home. Michael has a side hustle gig in recording and mastering and is now self producing with a newfound level of confidence. Yet he’s sure he’ll listen back to his new EP when he’s working on the next one, and decide that it this one’s crap. This is quite funny to me, but I totally get it. Michael recognizes the importance of having fun while making music and art. He and I are both optimistic that he’ll find have a little more fun with his next recording project. You can find all of Michael’s music at telcomusic.com. Please enjoy this conversation with and Michael Gilbride! Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Visit our Crowd Sponsor page Mentioned in this Episode TelcoMusic.com Mastering.com Best 45 Musician Podcasts According to Feedspot Related Episodes Music As Therapy–Michael Gilbride (Ep 198) This episode is powered by Podcast Startup, the learning platform for creators with a voice. Podcast Startup covers tech, production, editing, marketing and more. I know what it feels like to be slowed down by challenges revolving around fear, procrastination and tech, yet I’ve recorded and published over 260 podcast episodes. To learn more about Podcast Startup and to get free podcasting startup tips right to your inbox, go to UnstarvingMusician.com/PodcastStartup. This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for independent musicians looking to grow their music career. Music Marketing Method was created by my good friend Lynz Crichton. I’m in the program and I’m learning tons! I’m growing my fan base and learning about many ways that I’ll be earning money in the new year. It’s also helping me grow this podcast. How cool is that? To lean more and find out if Music Marketing Method can help your music career, visit UnstarvingMusician.com/MusicMarketing. Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
The Excitement Of Press Coverage And “Amelia”–Otto (Ep 221)
Dec 3 2021
The Excitement Of Press Coverage And “Amelia”–Otto (Ep 221)
UK music artist Otto found excitement over the press coverage for his summer release “Amelia.” There was a noteworthy moment leading up to this excitement. Otto caught the attention of Eurythmics co founder Dave Stewart. Otto had been holed up in his historic post office apartment when we last spoke, but the solitude allowed Otto to do a good deal of songwriting and recording. In this conversation Otto details his excitement over the press coverage for “Amelia,” which included an interview with BBC Radio presenter Janice Long and the attention he received from various BBC Radio outlets. We also had a laugh about his love/hate relationship with social media. Yes he still does his own social media posts. Please enjoy! This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for indie musicians looking to grow their music career but don’t know. Learn more! This episode was powered by Podcast Startup, helping new podcasters overcome the obstacles that stem from tech, marketing, editing and more. Learn More about Podcast Startup! Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Visit our Crowd Sponsor page Mentioned in this Episode Amelia (video) iGoByOtto.com Trackd The Gigging Musician Podcast with Jared Judge Related Episodes Collaboration, Music Discovery and Trackd Music–Grant Tilbury-Jaiswal (Ep 194) Emerging Collaboration Tools Could Bring Life to New Music Genres – Grant Tilbury, Trackd (Ep 174) Record Anywhere With Great Results–Markus K (Ep 176) Music Collaboration App Trackd Changed Her Life – Rachel Hearnden (Ep 175) The Art of Collaboration–Otto (Ep 181) Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo Music Marketing Method – The program that helps musicians find fans, grow an audience and make consistent income Podcast Startup – The podcast learning platform for creative voices Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music More Resources for musicians Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Writing Music With Preparedness In Mind–Bradford Loomis (Ep 220)
Nov 19 2021
Writing Music With Preparedness In Mind–Bradford Loomis (Ep 220)
Bradford Loomis has a 2019 song release called "Tried To Love A Woman." It was written as a compliment to his prior release "Righteous Kind." That song was placed in the movie Still Water, featuring Matt Damon. Rock isn't Bradford's main thing, although he admits that he likes rock. He in fact tries to include at least one rock song on each of his albums. His primary style is more that of a folk singer-songwriter. "Tried To Love A Woman" was written with a sense of anticipation and preparedness in mind. Bradford anticipated and prepared for a possible spike in interest for his rock songs following the Still Water placement. Anticipation and preparedness are common themes in our conversation. Bradford anticipated and prepared for the unexpected when he decided to up his game in video and live streaming. He is also anticipating and preparing for future tours by thinking and planning more strategically. We talk about this, doing voice-over work, managing live performance in the pandemic age, DIY subscription based patron offers, e-commerce options, and more. Bradford's music career continues to grow with and around the industry and the times. He's making things happen with his unique mindset of anticipation and preparedness. I believe this will continue to be reflected in his music, whether folk or rock. Please enjoy my conversation with Bradford Loomis. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Visit our Crowd Sponsor page Mentioned in this Episode BradfordLoomis.com Still Water with Matt Damon Tried To Love A Woman by Bradford Loomis Related Episodes Cutting Out the Music Business Middleman–Bradford & Kimberly Loomis This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for indie musicians looking to grow their music career but don’t know. Learn more! This episode was powered by Podcast Startup, helping new podcasters overcome the obstacles that stem from tech, marketing, editing and more. Learn More about Podcast Startup! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube
Amplifying Female Voices Over 50, Including Her Own – Brooksie Wells (Ep 219)
Nov 5 2021
Amplifying Female Voices Over 50, Including Her Own – Brooksie Wells (Ep 219)
Brooksie Wells is amplifying female voices over 50, including her own. She and I met in a thing called Music Marketing Method. I’ve mentioned Music Marketing Method on the podcast before. It’s a program designed to help musicians find our fan base, grow our audience and make a consistent income with our creativity. Learn more about Music Marketing Method Brooksie has had a rich music career. She has a new release called Stops Time, which you can find on all the popular digital platforms. Her first big break came when she was signed by a big name with Warner Chappell at the tender age of 19. That big name was Bobby Darin. Unfortunately Darin died before Brooksie’s career had any momentum. Darin’s passing left Brooksie without a sponsor and thus her big break came to a sudden end. This did not stop Brooksie from continued work in music. She took a detour into the world of children’s music and then into raising a family. She eventually returned to the world of adult pop music starting a new chapter in her career. In this episode we talk about her early days in music, managing tough circumstance, how she’s adapting to the ever changing music business and where she plans to move next. Brooksie refers to herself as a little old lady, but she has as much drive as any young artist I’ve spoken with on the podcast. She has a wealth of experience and a big personality on her side. These character traits along with acting as co-host for a podcast called She’s Not Done Yet are helping Brooksie amplify voices of over 50, including her own. You can find Brooksie’s work at BrooksieWells.com. This was a really fun conversation. Hope you enjoy as much as I did. Support the Unstarving Musician The Unstarving Musician exists solely through the generosity of its listeners, readers, and viewers. Learn how you can offer your support. Visit our Crowd Sponsor page Mentioned in this Episode BrooksieWells.com Album review for In My Pocket, by Alan Cackett She’s Not Done Yet podcast Related Episodes Lynz Crichton’s Music Marketing Method (Ep 215) Songwriting with a Deadline–Lynz Crichton (Ep 49) Lynz Crichton on Building a Clan, Learning the Business, Songwriting, and Recording (Ep 14) Cracking the codes of social media and playlists – JJ Lovegrove (Ep 214) This episode was powered by Music Marketing Method, a program for indie musicians looking to grow their music career but don’t know. Learn more! This episode was powered by Podcast Startup, helping new podcasters overcome the obstacles that stem from tech, marketing, editing and more. Learn More about Podcast Startup! Resources The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, by Robonzo No Booker, No Bouncer, No Bartender: How I Made $25K On A 2-Month House Concert Tour, by Shannon Curtis Bandzoogle – The all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a beautiful website for your music ConvertKit for Musicians More Resources for musicians Pardon the Interruption (Disclosure) Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means I make a small commission, at no extra charge to you, if you purchase using those links. Thanks for your support! Visit UnstarvingMusician.com/Podcasts for related links, episode transcripts and past guests. Sign up for the Unstarving Musician email newsletter at UnstarvingMusician.com Stay in touch! @RobonzoDrummer on Twitter  and  Instagram @UnstarvingMusician on Facebook  and  YouTube