How To Deal With Grief and Trauma

Nathalie Himmelrich

You can't go through life without experiencing loss and trauma the question is how do we deal and live with the grief and pain? Join Nathalie Himmelrich, grief expert and author, talking to people who have experienced grief and trauma first-hand. If you want to be inspired by others who traveled through their grief and trauma, found that healing is possible, and came out the other end knowing they can survive and thrive in life after loss. For more info: www.nathaliehimmelrich.com

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Nathalie with Amy Watson on Stillbirth, Miscarriage, and Pregnancy After Loss | Episode 7
4d ago
Nathalie with Amy Watson on Stillbirth, Miscarriage, and Pregnancy After Loss | Episode 7
Today I speak with Amy Watson who has experienced stillbirth & miscarriage. She talks about pregnancy after loss, how she struggled but also how she supported herself through the different losses. The interesting part of her story is how differently she experienced her two losses and how she managed those differences. Amy says:‘I call it Radical Self-Compassion, which means you love every part of you, including the grief, including the trauma, including the mess that it at all is, because that's the reality of being a human. We go through these hard things and even if we don't realise it, we all have these ideas of what it's supposed to look like and how we're supposed to be. I mean, that kind of covers at all? It's like an umbrella: if you're just really kind yourself. Because sometimes we think, well, if I just love myself when I want to lay in bed, I'll just lay in bed forever, right? I'll never get any better. But the opposite is true because if you're kind and you just give yourself the space to maybe sleep in a little bit, you're probably going to process through. And end up being able to get going if you want to. Or maybe you lay in bed, and you don't make it mean anything about you.’About this week’s guest Amy Watson is a certified life and grief coach. She takes her own experiences with stillbirth, miscarriage, and pregnancy after loss and combines them with proven techniques to help moms find themselves again after loss. She shares everything she knows to help you feel more peaceful, confident, and hopeful on her podcast, Smooth Stones. Amy wants all loss parents to know that by making friends with grief, tapping into their own inner voice, and learning to ... continue reading here...Topics discussed in this episodeLauren's stillbirth Explaining death to Lauren’s siblingsPregnancy after loss & when it’s the right time, support teamFirefighter and builders – read more in Nathalie's book Grieving Parents: Surviving Loss as a Couple River's miscarriage, complicated D&C with physical traumaDifference grieving Lauren and RiverGrieving and faithRadical self-compassionResources mentioned in this episodePregnancy After Loss eBookAmy's Instagram @amy.smoothstonescoachingLinks--> For more information, please visit Nathalie’s website. --> Subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.--> Join the podcast’s Instagram page.Thanks for listening to HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA. If you’d like to be updated on future episodes, please subscribe to my newsletter on Nathalie Himmelrich.comIf you need grief support, please contact me for a FREE 30 min discovery session.HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Support this PodcastTo support this podcast, please rate, review, subscribe to, or follow the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.Remember to keep breathing, I promise, it will get easier.
Nathalie with Amy Watson on Stillbirth, Miscarriage, and Pregnancy After Loss | Episode 7
4d ago
Nathalie with Amy Watson on Stillbirth, Miscarriage, and Pregnancy After Loss | Episode 7
Today I speak with Amy Watson who has experienced stillbirth & miscarriage. She talks about pregnancy after loss, how she struggled but also how she supported herself through the different losses. The interesting part of her story is how differently she experienced her two losses and how she managed those differences. Amy says:‘I call it Radical Self-Compassion, which means you love every part of you, including the grief, including the trauma, including the mess that it at all is, because that's the reality of being a human. We go through these hard things and even if we don't realise it, we all have these ideas of what it's supposed to look like and how we're supposed to be. I mean, that kind of covers at all? It's like an umbrella: if you're just really kind yourself. Because sometimes we think, well, if I just love myself when I want to lay in bed, I'll just lay in bed forever, right? I'll never get any better. But the opposite is true because if you're kind and you just give yourself the space to maybe sleep in a little bit, you're probably going to process through. And end up being able to get going if you want to. Or maybe you lay in bed, and you don't make it mean anything about you.’About this week’s guest Amy Watson is a certified life and grief coach. She takes her own experiences with stillbirth, miscarriage, and pregnancy after loss and combines them with proven techniques to help moms find themselves again after loss. She shares everything she knows to help you feel more peaceful, confident, and hopeful on her podcast, Smooth Stones. Amy wants all loss parents to know that by making friends with grief, tapping into their own inner voice, and learning to ... continue reading here...Topics discussed in this episodeLauren's stillbirth Explaining death to Lauren’s siblingsPregnancy after loss & when it’s the right time, support teamFirefighter and builders – read more in Nathalie's book Grieving Parents: Surviving Loss as a Couple River's miscarriage, complicated D&C with physical traumaDifference grieving Lauren and RiverGrieving and faithRadical self-compassionResources mentioned in this episodePregnancy After Loss eBookAmy's Instagram @amy.smoothstonescoachingLinks--> For more information, please visit Nathalie’s website. --> Subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.--> Join the podcast’s Instagram page.Thanks for listening to HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA. If you’d like to be updated on future episodes, please subscribe to my newsletter on Nathalie Himmelrich.comIf you need grief support, please contact me for a FREE 30 min discovery session.HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Support this PodcastTo support this podcast, please rate, review, subscribe to, or follow the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.Remember to keep breathing, I promise, it will get easier.
Nathalie with Kellie Sipos on Drug Abuse and Multiple Losses | Episode 6
Aug 1 2022
Nathalie with Kellie Sipos on Drug Abuse and Multiple Losses | Episode 6
Today I speak with Kellie Sipos who I met as part of being a guest on her podcast, My Child Left Home for Heaven. Kellie has experienced multiple losses within her own family which started with her father’s suicide, followed by the sudden unexpected loss of her sister. In 2018 she lost her daughter Emilie through an accidental drug overdose after which Kellie candidly shares how she herself abused drugs to manage her own grief. Just a few months ago, her mother, who she cared for the last few months of her life, died too. Kellie says:‘Emilie’s grief was so on the top of my heart every single day until I lost my mom. Now it's like the grief of my mom is shadowing over top of the grief of Emilie, and I feel really guilty. I feel like I'm not grieving her appropriately. And then I realized: No, I'm just healing. I'm starting to move on from some of that. And yes, the grief with my mom is newer but that in time will be the same way. I think maybe having to go through it again somehow helped me get over that big hurdle of Emilie.’About this week’s guest Kellie Sipos is the mother of 4 daughters who tragically lost her oldest, Emilie to an accidental drug overdose on July 22, 2018.  Since this time Kellie has tried to stay focused on making a difference in this world. Working with children and young adults with Special Needs as a therapeutic riding instructor and an equine specialist. Mental health has always been her focus but since the loss of her child she is on a new mission, starting her podcast My Child Left Home for Heaven. Being an avid podcast listener she quickly found there were not a lot of podcasts on child loss from the Moms perspective. Continue reading here...Topics discussed in this episodeThe recent loss of her motherEmilie, her drug addiction leading to her accidental drug overdose which killed herKellie’s granddaughter being taken away by her father after Emilie’s deathDrug addiction and abuse within the family and in the process of dealing with griefPTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder) following the traumatic loss of EmilieSuicide of her father, the sudden death of her sisterPost loss guilt and regretsCompassion fatigue for therapistsResources mentioned in this episodeGrieving Parents: Surviving Loss as a Couple by Nathalie HimmelrichShattered by Gary Roe Links--> For more information, please visit Nathalie’s website. --> Subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.--> Join the podcast’s Instagram page.Thanks for listening to HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA. If you’d like to be updated on future episodes, please subscribe to my newsletter on Nathalie Himmelrich.comIf you need grief support, please contact me for a FREE 30 min discovery session.HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Support this PodcastTo support this podcast, please rate, review, subscribe to, or follow the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.Remember to keep breathing, I promise, it will get easier
Nathalie with Domenique Rice on Unapologetically Grieving Out Loud | Episode 5
Jul 25 2022
Nathalie with Domenique Rice on Unapologetically Grieving Out Loud | Episode 5
Today I speak with Domenique Rice who I have come to know as part of the Instagram community of bereaved parents supporting one another in the Grieving Parents Support Network. People come and go in this community, but Domenique has stayed actively involved and developed a voice to be noticed creating stillbirth awareness in honour of her son TJ.She says:‘I need to parent my son and honour where I'm at. So that's the evolution, once again of the ‘stillbirth-Mama-fighting-for light’ and how I really transitioned my grief in my reality to be unapologetic and I say that quite often: unapologetic grief. It has taken me time, but I can't sugar-coat once again my reality. I can't water myself down.’About this week’s guest Domenique Rice wears many hats – staunch activist, laid-back California transplant, savvy Brooklyn girl, superstar salesperson – but her most important role is that of (bereaved) mother of five. Domenique never had any reason to suspect that something was amiss in her second pregnancy, at least, not until it was already too late. Like most parents, stillbirth and preventative measures were never discussed with Domenique, leaving her completely blindsided when at 36.5 weeks pregnant she unexpectedly went into labor and her second child and first son, TJ, was born still.Read Domenique's full bio in the extended show notes here. Feel free to connect with Domenique on her well-regarded Instagram account, @stillbirthmamafightingforlight, where she is actively breaking down stigma and dropping knowledge to prevent stillbirths from happening.Topics discussed in this episodeThe death of her son TJ, Terrance Christopher RiceUnapologetically grieving out loud and the love for TJHow to parent a dead child?Using social media (IG) to talk openly and connect to other like-minded peopleDifferences in grieving between partners and how to support one anotherResources mentioned in this episodePushPregnancy.orgReturn to Zero HopeMeasure the placenta.orgDr Harvey Klimans research (Placential specialist)    Links--> For more information, please visit Nathalie’s website. --> Subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.--> Join the podcast’s Instagram page.Thanks for listening to HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA. If you’d like to be updated on future episodes, please subscribe to my newsletter on Nathalie Himmelrich.comIf you need grief support, please contact me for a FREE 30 min discovery session.HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Support this PodcastTo support this podcast, please rate, review, subscribe to, or follow the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.Remember to keep breathing, I promise, it will get easier.
Nathalie with Turiya Hanover on the Loss of Significant Partners in Life | Episode 4
Jul 18 2022
Nathalie with Turiya Hanover on the Loss of Significant Partners in Life | Episode 4
Today I speak with Turiya, who – among other losses and traumas - shares the turning point in her life when she lost her then 33-year-old husband Welf von Hannover in 1981. Her relationship with death, the impermanence of physical life significantly changed another time with the loss of her beloved partner Maja 6 months ago, where she experienced something, she never had before: ‘Then one night the message came, and it was: Love Is All. And there was such a strong feeling. Love is the bond that brings us over the bridge and that brings two things into oneness, that overcomes the separation. In this case, the separation is a loss of the physical body. But the heart and the love are there. Love Is All.’ Turiya’s story is deeply moving and will encourage you to look for something beyond the physical. About this week’s guest Turiya is the co-founder of Path Retreats and the transformational process Path of Love with Rafia Morgan. Together they also lead a one-year Holistic Counsellor training for therapists Working with People – School of Counselling. Read Turiya's bio in the extended show notes. Topics discussed in this episodeThe death of her grandfather when she was 7 years old The sudden and unexpected death of her husband Welf von Hannover at the age of 33 years old at the Osho AshramThe lacking understanding of shock and trauma in the 80sThe fear of death always being presentLiving in a culture that avoids death and experiences a lack of connection to the formlessOsho’s deathMaja's deathGrief and the loneliness can make one feel orphaned by existenceThe importance of contact in the face of griefResources mentioned in this episodeQuote by Carlos Castaneda:‘Death is our eternal companion. It is always to our left, an arm's length behind us. Death is the only wise adviser that a warrior has. Whenever he feels that everything is going wrong and he's about to be annihilated, he can turn to his death and ask if that is so. His death will tell him that he is wrong, that nothing really matters outside its touch. His death will tell him, I haven't touched you yet.'A Year to Live: How to Live This Year as if it Were Your Last by Stephen LevineLinks--> For more information, please visit Nathalie’s website. --> Subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.--> Join the podcast’s Instagram page.Thanks for listening to HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA. If you’d like to be updated on future episodes, please subscribe to my newsletter on Nathalie Himmelrich.comIf you need grief support, please contact me for a FREE 30 min discovery session.HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Support this PodcastTo support this podcast, please rate, review, subscribe to, or follow the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.Remember to keep breathing, I promise, it will get easier.
Nathalie with Melo Garcia on Compound Grief and Finding Someone Who Speaks Grief | Episode 3
Jul 11 2022
Nathalie with Melo Garcia on Compound Grief and Finding Someone Who Speaks Grief | Episode 3
‘When you decide that it is yours, you'll understand that along with that grief comes an amazing life of living after loss because you have something that no one else can ever, ever have. And that is the love, that is the love - that's the love that remains.’ Melo has experienced three multiple significant losses in a short time frame. In this interview, she explains how through grief it felt as if she lost her mind and found it again in her journey with grief and trauma. About this week’s guest Melo Garcia, a grief specialist, assists those who have lost what isn't replaceable. She created After Chloe, an online community that provides support, resources, and assistance through the difficult grief journey, in honor of her daughter Chloe who passed away in 2011, and after losing both her parents.Melo felt it necessary to help others deal with the grief and loss life presents from death, divorce, identity, age, fertility, and empty-nesting by creating various types of solutions that the grieving finds a life worth living. In 2021 she started the podcast, The Resilience of Grieving, and hosts an annual online Summit during the holidays to provide resources to grievers.Melo allows you to speak your grief in your way, a way that will assist you and inspire you to live and grieve. Find out more about Melo on After Chloe on Instagram.Topics discussed in this episodeCompound grief: The death of Melo’s father, mother, and baby daughter Chloe in the time span of two yearsHow to deal with therapists who do not speak grief How to understand trauma and how grief and trauma have shaped my life and changed meSelf-help through bibliotherapy Resources mentioned in this episodeTo view the resources, please visit the extended show notes here.Links--> For more information, please visit Nathalie’s website. --> Subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.--> Join the podcast’s Instagram page.Thanks for listening to HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA. If you’d like to be updated on future episodes, please subscribe to my newsletter on Nathalie Himmelrich.comIf you need grief support, please contact me for a FREE 30 min discovery session.HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Support this PodcastTo support this podcast, please rate, review, subscribe to, or follow the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you. Remember to keep breathing, I promise, it will get easier.
Nathalie with Katja Faber on Homicide Loss – Effect on the Victim’s Family | Episode 2 Part 1
Jul 4 2022
Nathalie with Katja Faber on Homicide Loss – Effect on the Victim’s Family | Episode 2 Part 1
‘I wish to be ok with it if for no other reason than I owed it to myself and to my still-living children and those that care about me. Because they have a right to have a full and beautiful life, and having a mother that's traumatised and overwhelmed by something that she has no control over is not doing anybody any favours.’Katja’s story is extraordinary and has made waves in the media worldwide. Since the recording of this episode a few weeks ago the court case has taken place at the high court in Zurich, and the killer was convicted. We are planning to do Part 2 of this interview in a few weeks so stay tuned.About this week’s guest Katja Faber is the mother of three children. Following her 23-year-old son's murder in Switzerland, she used her legal training to work closely with lawyers and the State Prosecutor to secure justice for her dead son. Through her writing at Still Standing Magazine and other grief-related publications, she hopes to break the taboo of homicide loss and child loss. She runs her own fruit farm and is an advocate of ecotherapy as a means of finding healing following a traumatic loss. Katja is a certified Compassionate Bereavement Care® counselor through the Center for Loss and Trauma in partnership with the MISS Foundation and the Elisabeth Kubler-Ross Family Trust.FacebookInstagram account Topics discussed in this episodeHomicide loss – how a parent deals with the loss, the grief, the trauma, and the legal systemSelf-care, writing, nature, family support, support groups Siblings grief, mothering living children who grieve their brotherDealing with the media and the added pain caused by media coverageJudgment or misunderstanding of the surroundingsRe-traumatizing the victim’s family through ongoing trialsThe aspect of grief being to some degree public due to trialsHow to continue living with the fact that the killer is still out there aliveThe importance of accountability  Resources mentioned in this episodeNathalie’s book Surviving My First Year of Child Loss: Personal Stories From Grieving ParentsThe Compassionate Friends Facebook GroupsLinks--> For more information, please visit Nathalie’s website. --> Subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.--> Join the podcast’s Instagram page.Thanks for listening to HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA. If you’d like to be updated on future episodes, please subscribe to my newsletter on Nathalie Himmelrich.comIf you need grief support, please contact me for a FREE 30 min discovery session.HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Support this podcastTo support this podcast, please rate, review, subscribe to, or follow the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you. Remember to keep breathing, I promise, it will get easier.
Nathalie with Rachel Tenpenny on Why and How Healing Is Possible | Episode 1
Jun 26 2022
Nathalie with Rachel Tenpenny on Why and How Healing Is Possible | Episode 1
Episode introduction‘Whether healing is possible or not, is irrelevant. It has to be possible for me because this is the life that I want, and I am not willing to give up.’ Rachel Tenpenny gave birth to twin girls Aubrey and Ellie on June 24th, 2008. They both died a few days after their birth. Rachel talks to us about her grieving and healing story and how she came to strongly believe that healing is possibleAbout this week’s guest Rachel Tenpenny is a grief expert, emotional well-being specialist, and life-after-loss coach. With over 13 years of experience healing her own heart after her baby daughters died in 2008, she has helped hundreds of people find healing after life’s most painful experiences. Rachel believes grief is not forever and teaches grievers how to heal physically and emotionally with a unique and effective holistic approach to cultivating healing that lasts a lifetime. Originally from a small town in Southern California, she now lives in Northern Virginia with her two boys, Dustin and Colton.Topics discussed in this episodeWhy and how healing is possibleA society that does not understand grief and how confused we are about grief What does it look like when ‘grief isn’t forever'? We don’t have to be isolated in our griefDebunking grief myths‘Time heals all wounds’: Time is just time, it is what we choose to do with timeGrief skills are life skills and need to be learnedResources mentioned in this episodeRachel’s websiteGrieving Parents: Surviving Loss as a Couple (book)Links--> For more information, please visit Nathalie’s website. --> Subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.--> Join the podcast’s Instagram page.Thanks for listening to HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA. If you’d like to be updated on future episodes, please subscribe to my newsletter on Nathalie Himmelrich.comIf you need grief support, please contact me for a FREE 30 min discovery session.HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Support this podcastTo support this podcast, please rate, review, subscribe to, or follow the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you. Remember to keep breathing, I promise, it will get easier.