Ellen Schall of New York University comes to the Swamp and shares her wisdom on how to develop a leadership reflective practice. Ellen’s journey began when she worked in New York City starting as a Legal Aid Society attorney. She moved to New York University in 1992 and it is still her home. She taught the Leadership course: Reflective Practice: Learning from Work.

Ellen shares her thoughts on the importance of distinguishing role from self, how to develop a self-reflection practice, her definition of leading and the deep value that comes from working on the front line of public service. Ellen is a wisdom sharer. Your time listening to Ellen will deepen your capacity to use yourself to lead. But will mean you will need to develop and follow your own Reflective Leadership Practice. She will help you with that work.

Ellen’s Links

Ellen Schall: NYU Wagner

A Reflective Practitioner Journey paper

Learning to Love the Swamp: Reshaping Education for Public Service paper

Leadership Reflections New Book

Ellen Schall Experience Fund

Ellen Schall Harvard Kennedy School Case

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• Jacki Hydock for her lending her wonderful voice to our introduction and outro

• Great music by Jazz Night

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