Today we re-visit an interview with Angeles Arrien, who is deeply missed by so many. Though she is gone, her wisdom and understanding of cultural evolution endures, her words matter, maybe more than ever. Angeles was an anthropologist, educator, award-winning author, consultant, and Founder and President of the Angeles Arrien Foundation for Cross-Cultural Education and Research.Her work bridges cultural anthropology, psychology, and mediation skills. Her award winning books include The Four-Fold Way: Walking the Paths of the Warrior, Teacher, Healer and Visionary; Signs of Life: The Five Universal Shapes and How to Use Them. Leadership is undergoing a cultural revolution. How do expertise and mastery figure in this? During our conversation we explore the practice of leadership, the shift in expectations we have of our leaders around the world, and what it requires of us all.