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The Catechism is not a textbook, a collection of ideas, or a set of rules. It is the faithful echo of a God who wishes to reveal himself to us and desires us to respond. Our mission is to pass down and pass along the gift of our faith by creating beautiful, captivating, and relevant content inspired by the Catechism of the Catholic Church. And we are making this content in multiple languages and accessible for free to people all over the world. The Real+True Podcast is part of Real+True, a global initiative of Our Sunday Visitor (OSV) under the patronage of the Holy See. Visit realtrue.org for more information, including videos and other materials to learn more about the Catechism on your own or with your parish.

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What Catholics believe about the Death Penalty
Jul 1 2024
What Catholics believe about the Death Penalty
In this conversation, Edmund interviews Krisanne Vaillancourt Murphy, the executive director of the Catholic Mobilizing Network (CMN), about the fifth commandment and the work of CMN in promoting the value of life over death. They discuss the history and implications of the death penalty, the role of faith-based advocacy, and the challenges of promoting restorative justice. They also explore the misconceptions and myths surrounding the death penalty and the need for a deeper understanding of the Gospel's call to respect life. The conversation explores the themes of justice, vengeance, and retribution in relation to the death penalty. The revised paragraph 2267 of the Catechism is discussed, highlighting the church's teaching that the death penalty is inadmissible because it attacks the inviolability and dignity of the human person. The conversation also touches on the importance of restorative justice and building a culture of life.00:00 Edmund introduces Krisanne Vaillancourt-Murphy, Executive Director of the Catholic Mobilizing Network (CMN). Krisanne shares her journey into faith-based advocacy, driven by a desire to address social justice issues. She discusses her inspiration from Pope Francis and the film "Dead Man Walking," emphasizing the importance of examining societal norms and moral convictions regarding the death penalty.09:26 In this segment, Edmund and Krisanne discuss surprising facts about the death penalty. Krisanne highlights that 70% of the world has deemed the death penalty illegal or immoral, contrasting with the US's stance. They delve into its historical and racial context, citing that half of US states still uphold it, driven by misconceptions about deterrence and retribution. Krisanne also reveals the staggering number of exonerations from death row and emphasizes the system's inherent flaws and injustices.20:41 Edmund and Krisanne discuss the Church’s teaching regarding the death penalty and the revisions to paragraph 2267 of the catechism in 2018. They clarify that the Church's teaching never fundamentally changed, but the practical application changed with society's capacity to protect itself from criminals without resorting to death. The revision reflects a clear stance against the death penalty, aligning with the consistent call for human dignity.28:10 Krisanne reflects on the profound message in paragraph 2267 of the catechism, emphasizing the importance of not depriving anyone, regardless of their crime, of the possibility of redemption. She draws parallels to St. Paul's conversion, highlighting the abundant mercy of God. Edmund resonates with the counterintuitive nature of the Gospel, which challenges conventional notions of justice. They conclude with a call to action, urging listeners to engage in restorative justice efforts and advocate against the death penalty.This episode is sponsored This episode is sponsored by Catholic Charities USA.  Help Catholic Charities serve your neighbors in need. Join us at www.WeAreThere.US. An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S3 E8 Family, Trauma, and Honoring Your Father and Mother with Brya Hanan
Jun 3 2024
S3 E8 Family, Trauma, and Honoring Your Father and Mother with Brya Hanan
In this conversation, guest Brya Hanan joins to discuss the Fifth Commandment, trauma, healing, and the challenges of parent-child relationships. Brya shares her journey into the field of Catholic marriage and family therapy and explores the concept of trauma-informed therapy and how trauma impacts our bodies, minds, relationships, and spirituality. The discussion also focuses on the intersection of trauma and attachment theory. Finally, practical advice is given for catechists and parents on how to differentiate between normal family challenges and more serious issues that may require therapy, especially in light of presenting the Fifth Commandment. Show Notes:00:00 Brya Hanan explains her journey into therapy, highlighting her passion for helping marginalized individuals and exploring the integration of psychology and faith. She emphasizes the importance of holistic healing and discusses the evolution of trauma awareness in therapy, shedding light on trauma-informed approaches. Edmund introduces the complexities of parent-child relationships, setting the stage for a nuanced exploration of presenting the Fifth Commandment in evangelization and catechesis while navigating family dynamics.07:27 The discussion shifts to the trend of young adults estranging themselves from parents due to trauma and the challenges within parent-child relationships. Brya explains how trauma affects attachment bonds, emphasizing the significance of emotional safety. She delves into the stressors parents face and their impact on relationships, advocating for healthy boundaries and tough conversations. Practical advice includes therapy, prayer, and discernment guided by the Holy Spirit.14:33 Brya discusses the importance of listening to the Holy Spirit and discerning how to respond when someone is sharing difficult family dynamics. She advises pointing individuals toward healing resources like therapy and spiritual direction. Edmund explores differentiating between common family challenges and more serious issues. 20:52  Brya suggests approaching discussions around family challenges with curiosity and empathy, drawing from personal experiences to gently guide individuals towards resources like therapy and spiritual direction. She emphasizes the importance of emotional regulation and attunement in parent-child relationships, fostering trust and authentic faith. Resources include books on attachment theory and articles exploring the link between healthThis episode is sponsored by Catholic Charities USA.  Help Catholic Charities serve your neighbors in need. Join us at www.WeAreThere.US. An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S3 E7 Understanding and Living the First Three Commandments with Father Joe Krupp
May 6 2024
S3 E7 Understanding and Living the First Three Commandments with Father Joe Krupp
In this episode of the Real+True podcast, host Edmund Mitchell talks with Father Joseph J. Krupp about the practical application of the first three commandments in catechesis and evangelization, emphasizing love of God. Father Joe shares insights from his broad pastoral experience, including his roles in parishes, schools, and other ministries. They dive into how the commandments guide believers in recognizing their place in the universe, and how this understanding fosters a deeper relationship with God. The discussion covers topics like the distinction between “cultural” and “apostolic” Christianity, the importance of the Sacrament of Confession, and practical tips for living out the commandments in daily life. Father Joe encourages a relationship-based approach to morality rather than seeing them as mere rules, highlighting the need for a love-filled response of obedience to God.00:00 Edmund introduces the podcast episode featuring Father Joe Krupp and the discussion on the first three commandments. Father Joe shares his personal journey of faith and his pastoral experience in evangelization and catechesis, highlighting the importance of personal testimony and joyful presentation of the Gospel.08:42  Father Joe delves into the meaning of the First Commandment, emphasizing the recognition of God's place in our lives and the importance of genuine worship and obedience. He provides practical examples to illustrate living out this commandment.16:23  The discussion shifts to the Second Commandment regarding honoring the Lord's day. Father Joe explains the significance of setting aside time for rest and worship, challenging the notion of reducing the faith to a set of rules rather than a relationship with God.21:25  Father Joe explores the meaning of the Third Commandment related to using God's name in vain. He emphasizes the reverence we should have for God's name and cautions against using it as an excuse for wrongdoing or trivial matters, like claiming God is okay with sinful actions. 25:20  The conversation concludes with further reflection on approaching the commandments as guidelines for a loving relationship with God rather than rigid rules. Father Joe highlights the importance of understanding God's love as the foundation for obedience. Edmund wraps up the episode by thanking Father Joe for his insights and sharing where listeners can find more of Father Joe's ministry. An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S3 E6 How Jesus’ Teaching on the Beatitudes Changes Evangelization and Catechesis
Apr 1 2024
S3 E6 How Jesus’ Teaching on the Beatitudes Changes Evangelization and Catechesis
In this episode, Edmund and Emily discuss the Beatitudes, which the catechism reminds us is central to Jesus’ preaching. They discuss how the Beatitudes are often easy to overlook in ministry, causing us to miss the key to the third pillar of the catechism, Life in Christ. The third pillar of the catechism deals primarily with the Ten Commandments. However, the key to understanding God’s vision for our life in Christ is our vocation to beatitude as presented, in a very detailed way, in the Beatitudes. Show Notes: (00:00) In the opening of the podcast, hosts Edmund and Emily explore the significance of the Beatitudes in their faith journeys. They will discuss applying the Beatitudes in catechesis and evangelization, sharing personal reflections on their impact. They acknowledge previously overlooking the Beatitudes' relevance for their lives. They distinguish the Beatitudes from the Ten Commandments, emphasizing their divine nature and counterintuitive teachings. (08:49) In this segment, Emily discusses the approach to creatively presenting the Beatitudes in the videos of this unit for Real + True. The discussion highlights how the Beatitudes provide God's vision for our lives and created goods. Emphasizing a shift from passive understanding to active pursuit, they explore the Beatitudes in detail. They reflect on the transformative power of living out the Beatitudes daily and the challenge of internalizing them. The hosts encourage listeners to embrace proactive engagement with the Beatitudes in their own lives.(16:20) Here the hosts share personal experiences of how the Beatitudes influenced their reactions in challenging situations, such as showing mercy and mourning for others. The hosts emphasize a shift from passive understanding to active pursuit, highlighting the paradoxical nature of the Beatitudes and the need for trust in God's grace. They encourage listeners to engage with the Beatitudes more intentionally through reflection, discussion, and practical actions, such as displaying them prominently for daily reminders. Ultimately, they underscore the profound significance of the Beatitudes in deepening one's faith and relationship with God. (24:31) In this portion of the episode, the hosts discuss strategies for understanding and applying the Beatitudes in evangelization and catechesis, such as using the lives of saints as examples of the Beatitudes lived out. Emphasizing the Beatitudes' elevation of moral discernment beyond mere adherence to the Ten Commandments, they highlight the need to align with God's perspective in navigating life's challenges. The hosts conclude by urging listeners to prayerfully engage with the Beatitudes as the standard for discernment and spiritual growth. (29:53) Emily and Edmund wrap up the podcast by encouraging listeners to send in their experiences with the Beatitudes, both in catechesis, evangelization, and in their own lives. This episode is sponsored by NCEA Rise at www.ncearise.org. An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S3E5 What Young People Ask to Hear about the 10 Commandments
Mar 4 2024
S3E5 What Young People Ask to Hear about the 10 Commandments
Summary: In this episode, expert evangelist Julianne Stanz joins to talk about the challenges and importance of discussing the Ten Commandments in the context of evangelization. We also discuss insights from Julianne’s new book, The Catholic Parent’s Survival Guide, and what she learned from interviews with parents and teens about discussing moral teachings and the Ten Commandments. We discuss the role of apprenticeship and practical tips for parish catechists. Julianne emphasizes the importance of prayer, practical engagement, and acknowledging one's own limitations when discussing difficult topics.Show Notes:(00:00) In the opening of this episode, Julianne Stanz discusses the challenge of integrating the Ten Commandments into evangelization, emphasizing the need to present the fullness of the Gospel. Edmund and Julianne discuss the "believe, behave, belong" concept, explaining that belief and belonging precede behavior. Julianne highlights the nuanced approach required for different individuals, stressing the importance of acknowledging the commandments as guideposts for moral and natural law in fostering meaningful discussions, especially with teenagers.(06:46) Julianne highlights the importance of presenting the Ten Commandments not merely as intellectual pursuits or behavior modification but as an invitation to experience God's life. She draws parallels to discipleship, emphasizing a close relationship with God. Edmund and Julianne discuss how young people may inadvertently make idols. Additionally, Julianne shares insights from young people's perspectives she learned through interviews and suggests using the Socratic method to foster meaningful conversations with children.(13:09) The conversation delves into the challenges of discussing morality and the Ten Commandments, emphasizing the danger of presenting as experts in all aspects of the Church. The dialogue underscores the power of authenticity, suggesting that modeling vulnerability and engaging in the learning process together is more effective than perfect presentations. Julianne shares more insights from her research, highlighting the deep pain young people harbor regarding mental health and identity. She addresses the silent struggles and desire for face-to-face conversations young people experience. Parents express pressure to have everything figured out, while Stanz recommends simple traditions, like blessing children's shoes, as impactful ways to instill faith at home.(21:02) Julianne advises catechists and parents not to fear presenting the Ten Commandments or facing tough questions. The discussion turns to authenticity, curiosity, and gradual teaching, emphasizing the Holy Spirit's role in evangelization. (28:08) The conclusion of the podcast directs listeners to explore additional resources and Julianne Stanz new book, A Survival Guide for Catholic Parents. This episode is sponsored by Saint Meinrad. Click saintmeinrad.edu/OSV to learn more about Graduate Theology at Saint Meinrad Seminary & School of Theology. Laity and deacons are invited to inquire or apply. Pursue your MA or certificate in theology viaweekend and online offerings. An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E16 Grace, Heresies, and Avoiding Extremes with Fr. Stephen Pullis
Feb 5 2024
S2 E16 Grace, Heresies, and Avoiding Extremes with Fr. Stephen Pullis
Summary: In this podcast episode, host Edmund Mitchell engages with Fr. Stephen Pullis, Director of Pastoral Formation, and a professor at Sacred Heart Major Seminary, to explore the nuances of grace in catechesis. They discuss the challenges of moving beyond traditional catechesis, emphasizing the need for lifelong discipleship. Fr. Pullis shares insights into integrating faith into daily life in a postmodern world, emphasizing both successes and mistakes.The conversation delves into the intricate nature of grace, highlighting its dual aspects—God's aid and human merit. Father Pullis stresses that grace is God's freely given life to humanity, shaping the Christian narrative. The discussion explores the transformative power of grace, emphasizing Jesus as the primary actor in breaking into our lives.The hosts express concerns about potential pitfalls, and Fr. Pullis provides tips on explaining grace to those new to the faith. They discuss the challenges of living out church teachings and address the heresy of Pelagianism and modern challenges like Neo-Pelagianism.The podcast concludes with practical advice for catechists, emphasizing a balanced approach between God's initiative and human cooperation. Fr. Pullis encourages the use of saints as examples for translating beliefs into practical everyday life. The episode closes with a mention of Sacred Heart Major Seminary's online courses and an invitation for engagement on Real+True's YouTube channel.This episode is sponsored by the National Catholic Educational Association 2024 Convention. To learn more visit: https://ncea.org/NCEA2024 An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E15 A Framework for Evangelization and Catechesis Using the Theological Virtues  and Dr. Scott Sollom
Jan 15 2024
S2 E15 A Framework for Evangelization and Catechesis Using the Theological Virtues and Dr. Scott Sollom
In this podcast, we’re joined by Dr. Scott Sollom to discuss better catechesis through the lens of the theological virtues. We focus on Dr. Sollom’s publication in the book “Speaking the Truth in Love”, in which he wrote a chapter titled: The Theological Virtues in Catechesis: Faith, Hope and Charity in the Pedagogy of the Catechism and the Life of the Catechumen. Dr. Scott Sollom is a professor of theology and the Director of the Catechetics Office and Director of the Catechetical Institute at Fransican University. Dr. Scott Sollom has worked in the field of evangelization and catechesis for 25 years, including parishes, dioceses, and schools.(00:00) Edmund introduces Dr. Scott Sollom and the topic of the theological virtues and their relation to catechesis. Dr. Sollom emphasizes the importance of the theological virtues (faith, hope, and charity) in guiding the goal of catechesis. The conversation explores practical ways to connect theological virtues with various aspects of teaching, especially the when explaining the “Life in Christ” we’re called to. Additionally, Dr. Sollom uses specific doctrines as examples, such as Mary's assumption, in addressing fundamental human questions. The theological virtues are a way for catechesis to answer deep questions of the human heart, fostering growth in faith, hope, and charity.(16:34) The discussion revolves around the significance of the catechumenate and what we all can learn from OCIA (Order of Catechumens in the Initiation of Adults). The analogy of building a fire and the stages of a relationship, such as courtship leading to marriage, is used to illustrate the process of catechesis – slow and in stages.  The catechumenate is described as a period of systematic and comprehensive catechesis, connecting teachings explicitly to the theological virtues of faith, hope, and charity. We also discuss the importance of disposition in receiving sacraments and the connection between living the Christian way of life and readiness to receive grace. The ancient catechumenate sought signs of growth in the virtues of faith, hope, and charity as a foundation for God's grace to take root.(24:11) The conversation explores an analogy of dating to discuss faith, hope, and charity applied to human faculties. It emphasizes the transformative role of these virtues—faith in the intellect, hope in the imagination, and charity in the will. Specific catechism paragraphs 1812 and 1813 are referenced, highlighting the roots of human virtues in theological virtues. The goal of conversion in Christ is defined as believing, hoping, and loving supernaturally. The conversation suggests an engaging approach to catechesis that begins with recognizing natural faculties and appreciating their supernatural elevation through theological virtues, presenting them as becoming "superpowers" through grace.(32:04) The conversation highlights the transformative approach of teaching faith, hope, and charity by connecting them to personal experiences. Augustine's emphasis on theological virtues as central to worship and life in Christ is discussed. The method, benefits, and disadvantages of bridging doctrine and experience, using theological virtues as a guide, is also discussed. Dr. Sollom mentions resources like the Franciscan Catechetical Institute and Franciscan at Home. This episode is sponsored by the U.S. bishops' 9 Days for Life NovenaJoin the U.S. bishops’ pro-life novena from January 16 through January 24www.9daysforlife.comAn OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E14 Psychology, Morality, and Better Catechesis with Dr. Joseph White
Dec 4 2023
S2 E14 Psychology, Morality, and Better Catechesis with Dr. Joseph White
(00:00) In this podcast episode, co-host Edmund Mitchell interviews Dr. Joseph White, a licensed family and child psychologist with a focus on the intersection of psychology and catechesis. Dr. White, an associate publisher for Our Sunday Visitor, discusses his journey into this field, emphasizing the connection between his psychology background and a Catholic university's influence. The conversation delves into the third pillar of the catechism, exploring challenges in moral teachings and authentic catechetical approaches. Dr. White emphasizes the need for faithfulness to both God and humanity, aligning the message with the audience's developmental stages. (09:47) Edmund and Dr. Joseph discuss the potential resistance to incorporating modern psychology and human sciences into catechesis. Dr. White highlights the two-fold responsibility of using human sciences to enhance catechetical effectiveness and evaluating scientific discoveries through the lens of faith. The conversation explores the complementarity between divine revelation, Catholic anthropology, and insights from the human sciences. (19:42) The conversation turns to the relevance of psychology and childhood development in understanding and easing the natural pushback against moral teachings during adolescence. Dr. Joseph and Edmund emphasize that questioning and pushing back are integral parts of healthy development, crucial for forging independence. (30:35) Edmund and Dr. Joseph discuss the example of St. John Bosco in building relationships, especially with students and those being catechized. They highlight how St. John Bosco's trust in God was a cornerstone in his care for orphaned children, emphasizing the importance of forming close bonds and leading others into a relationship with God. The hosts reflect on a common mistake in catechesis—assuming that knowing facts is sufficient, stressing the need to connect faith with practical ways of living.  (35:54) Edmund shares where people can find more of Dr. White's work, mentioning his books on the OSV website and highlighting his YouTube channel, where he shares talks on catechesis, especially focusing on sharing the faith with young people. Edmund encourages listeners to find Dr. White on youtube by searching "Dr. Joseph White catechesis".  An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E13 What Teaching Morality Looks Like as Evangelizing Catechesis
Nov 6 2023
S2 E13 What Teaching Morality Looks Like as Evangelizing Catechesis
Summary: In this podcast, Emily and Edmund discuss how to effectively use the third pillar of the Catechism. We dive into the challenges and strategies for presenting the Church's teachings on morality effectively to a modern audience. We also discuss the importance of understanding the audience and some aspects of effective catechesis. This episode also covers the significance of approaching catechesis and evangelization with a focus on God's love and the invitation to a relationship with Christ. Additionally, we recommend resources for understanding modern evangelization and its relation to the Church's teachings and the third pillar of the catechism.Show Notes: (00:00) In the opening of the podcast Edmund and Emily set up the discussion of the third pillar of the catechism, focusing on how to present the Church's teachings on morality effectively. They emphasize the importance of approaching catechesis and evangelization with an understanding of God's love and the invitation to a relationship with Christ. They explore the structure of this pillar, highlighting its emphasis on living in Christ rather than just following rules. The conversation underscores the significance of contextualizing moral teachings within the broader framework of the Gospel. By examining the structure of the Catechism, they emphasize the importance of the order and how it contributes to sound catechesis.(10:48) Edmund and Emily emphasize the significance of understanding foundational truths before presenting specific moral teachings. They discuss the importance of recognizing that humans are created for goodness and love, emphasizing God's invitation to happiness through beatitude. They stress the importance of meeting their audience where they are at by authentic listening and understanding their perspectives to effectively catechize and evangelize. Drawing from Sherry Waddell's insights in Forming Intentional Disciples, they highlight the importance of the spiritual journeys of belonging, believing, and behaving in the context of catechesis. They also discuss the approach taken in their videos. The discussion encourages catechists to approach teaching with a deep understanding of the foundational truths of faith and the context of their audience's experiences.(19:31) Emily and Edmund discuss practical ways to respond when individuals react critically to Church teachings. The hosts share insights from their experiences and discussions with church ministers. Drawing from the catechism, they highlight the importance of starting with the foundational belief that humans are created for goodness and are inherently attracted to it. They emphasize the significance of meeting people where they are and accompanying them through dialogue to effectively address their concerns. The discussion encourages catechists and parish leaders to focus on understanding the underlying beliefs of those we are catechizing and evangelizing and connecting them back to Church teaching.(26:54) In the closing of the podcast, Emily and Edmund encourage listeners to study the third pillar of the Catechism. They also suggest reading Pope Francis' "Evangelii Gaudium" (The Joy of the Gospel), highlighting its relevance in understanding contemporary evangelization. The hosts emphasize the document's incorporation of recent church teachings, its focus on modern contexts and audiences, and its discussions of the challenges and temptations within the Church's evangelization efforts. They invite feedback from listeners, aiming to plan future episodes to address their needs. An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E12 Evangelization and Community for Young Catholic Professionals with Jennifer Baugh
Oct 2 2023
S2 E12 Evangelization and Community for Young Catholic Professionals with Jennifer Baugh
In this podcast, we’re joined by Jennifer Baugh, the founder of Young Catholic Professionals (YCP). Parish ministries often overlook one crucial age range – people who have recently graduated college but haven’t yet fully established themselves in a career or marriage. For the Church to better evangelize and accompany this age range, we need to understand their unique needs. We discuss Gen Z and the various methods YCP uses to reach this age range, as well as practical ways parish leaders can learn from YCP. (00:00) Edmund introduces Jennifer Baugh and she shares her personal story of growing up Catholic but rediscovering her Catholic faith. She also shares the origins of Young Catholic Professionals (YCP) and what prompted her to start this ministry. Edmund and Jennifer discuss this often overlooked demographic – that of people who have just graduated college but haven’t yet established themselves in a marriage or career and are searching for community and are open to hearing how someone could live out their faith in a secular and professional context. These individuals don’t always fit in a parish young adult or college ministry but also have a hard time finding community among the adult ministries in parish, as these are often filled with older married adults with children.(10:49) Jennifer explains why YCP uses “networking events” to attract young Catholic professionals. She also speaks about the fruit they’ve seen from these events, and what parish leaders can learn from them. She offers a few examples of how a parish leader could practically implement these principles into their parish ministry. One challenge is finding balance between a purely social gathering and a direct and explicit evangelizing event. The key here is balance and intentional invitation into something deeper as a next step to the networking event. (19:23) YCP offers one-on-one mentorship and has seen fruit from this model. Jennifer shares what YCP has learned from this mentorship program and what parish leaders can learn from this model. Jennifer also shares what she has seen as the unique challenges Gen Z is facing in general and in relation to the faith. (24:48) Jennifer shares how the catechism had a huge impact on her faith journey. She discusses the need to not just present intellectual knowledge when we present the faith, but the need, especially with younger generations, to present a personal invitation to a new way of living with Jesus that is compelling. YCP has found that using the stories of lives of Saints helps give a concrete practical example of this life in Christ to people who are struggling to fully embrace the Catholic Church. She also explains the importance of volunteers and hospitality to help people build relationships, not just gain knowledge. (31:38) We close this episode with Jennifer sharing that parish leaders can visit youngcatholicprofessionals.org to find out more about the ministry. She also shares about the national conference and ways that parishes can help host events for their local young Catholic professionals in collaboration with YCP. This episode is sponsored by: "An Introduction to Sacred Scripture" With Dr. Dr. Mary Healy, shms.edu/onlineAn OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E11 Liturgy and the Sacraments as Moments of Evangelization with Dr. Timothy O’Malley
Sep 4 2023
S2 E11 Liturgy and the Sacraments as Moments of Evangelization with Dr. Timothy O’Malley
Summary: In this podcast, we’re joined by Dr. Timothy O’Malley, Notre Dame Professor of Theology and Director of Education at the McGrath Institute. This episode tackles the relationship between catechesis and evangelization and what parish leaders can practically do in light of this relationship. The need to evangelize plays out on the ground in parishes. And many parish leaders don’t know where to start when it comes to practically making a difference in the “age of disaffiliation,” as Dr. Tim describes it. Dr. Tim also unpacks the need for developing a Eucharistic culture in order to more effectively evangelize in a world where most people are greatly influenced by a culture at odds with the Gospel. Dr. O’Malley researches and teaches at Notre Dame in the areas of liturgical-sacramental theology, marriage and family, Catholic higher education, catechesis, preaching, and spirituality. He is also the author of nine books on topics related to the liturgy, OCIA, the Eucharist, sacramental theology, marriage and family, and liturgical formation.Show Notes: (00:00) Edmund introduces us to this podcast’s guest, Dr. Timothy O’Malley who is a Notre Dame Professor of Theology and Director of Education at the McGrath Institute. Dr. Tim shares his background and how he became interested in theology and academia. Dr. Tim describes his perspective on the modern phenomenon of people leaving the church in large numbers. He describes this as an age of disaffiliation. (07:42) Dr. Tim explains why culture is such an important factor when we are discussing evangelization. Even among people who attend Mass weekly, they will at most only experience a Christ-centered culture for a very small percentage of their week. He offers some suggestions on how parish leaders can help people cultivate a Christ-centered culture in their lives and how parishes can build a more robust culture to invite people into this meaningful and Eucharistic life. Dr. Tim also explains a common mistake in sacramental preparation - that the sacraments are just about presence.(16:59) The conversation turns to the reality that the Mass is often the first and only place people experience the Church in their lives. Should the Mass be a place for evangelization? How can and should parish leaders practically balance the opportunity for evangelization with the reality of the Mass? Dr. Tim explains how the Mass is the ordinary space of evangelization for Catholics. He also addresses preaching, liturgy, and reverence.(23:56) How should parish leaders understand parish membership? Dr. Tim speaks about the idea of belonging to a parish and the need to accompany people with real authentic relationships and empathy. The conversation also turns to the importance of being flexible to the specific needs of individuals, instead of rigidly applying processes to large groups of people without understanding the unique needs of families. He suggests fostering a eucharistic culture in parishes and responding to requests for sacraments with an improv attitude of "yes, and" rather than a mere institutional style of "yes, but."(29:24) Dr. Tim shares about the McGrath Institute for Church Life at Notre Dame. He also explains the relationship between the McGrath Institute and Notre Dame as a two-way bridge that brings the best of academic life to the Church and the best of Church life to the academy in order to foster a fruitful conversation. The institute is dedicated to cultivating a vibrant Catholic culture in the United States and around the world by forming leaders who are equipped to renew the Church and serve the common good. Through its various programs, the institute seeks to promote the renewal of the Catholic imagination and the revitalization of Catholic intellectual and cultural lifeAn OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E10 Bioethics, morality, and seeking truth with Dr. Lesley Rice
Aug 7 2023
S2 E10 Bioethics, morality, and seeking truth with Dr. Lesley Rice
Summary: “We are entrusted to each other.” In this podcast, we’re joined by Dr. Lesley M. Rice, Assistant Professor of Bioethics at the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family at The Catholic University of America. Today she shares about the WHY behind the Church’s teachings on IVF, reproductive technologies, end of life care, and how God’s plan for life and love leads to the fullest life. Dr. Rice gives us a framework and furthering studying in order to uphold our human dignity and those who are entrusted to us. Show Notes: (04:37) Edmund introduces us to this podcast’s guest, Dr. Lesley Rice from the Catholic University of America. The discussion begins with Dr. Rice gives us an explanation of bioethics, that is, how we understand our actions and their significance. Edmund outlines that the Catechism is a summary of the deposit of faith, but the deposit of faith doesn't go into every single unique situation. And the deposit of faith doesn't have every single scientific advancement and scenario outlined. So this is why this podcast’s discussion is important. (06:00) Dr. Rice explains that bioethics touch many topics, including reproductive technologies, euthanasia, and  physician assisted suicide. Thankfully, our Catholic faith offers us a patrimony, a rich heritage of, of principles and truths that can inform our decision making. She explains, “What the Church teaches, she teaches because it's true.” Dr. Rice explains Church’s stance on IVF and artificial insemination. (13:10) Science at the service of the human person: Dr. Lesley Rice shares a fuller vision of the human person and our purpose and destiny as creatures of a loving God. She goes on to explain the role of science in our lives. “The ambitions of science are good in the sense of alleviating suffering.” However, when science gives us a sense of total autonomy from God, and control over suffering, this can be dangerous for the human person. (18:42) Intentions and consequences: Edmund brings up the point that our morality and ethical understanding of actions must be considered from start to finish, and a good end for an action does not give us license to hurt or violate the rights of another. (23:13) A deeper look into IVF: Dr. Lesley Rice affirms the good of the intention to want a child. She shares more about the harmful effects of IVF and how the procedure violates the rights of the married couple, as well as the child. Dr. Rice says that IVF “takes away the individuality” of the embryo, which simplifies human beings at their smallest level to something to be manipulated. (27:27) Edmund asks Dr. Rice how our audience can prepare themselves and navigate facing difficult ethical questions in their lives personally or with family members. Dr. Rice mentions reading Part III of the Catechism, as well as reading, John Paul II’s Evangelium Vitae.An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E9 Praying with the Bible and the Catechism
Jul 3 2023
S2 E9 Praying with the Bible and the Catechism
Summary:  This episode is a concise and practical explanation of a way to use a unique feature of the catechism to unlock scripture. Using the index of citations, found in the back of the catechism, we can look up specific passages of scripture and find all the paragraphs of the catechism that reference this scripture passage. This is a great way to read scripture and the catechism together and view scripture through the eyes of the Church. This is also a wonderful way to incorporate the catechism into our time of prayer with scripture, while also making us more familiar with the catechism in an effective way. (00:12) Edmund sets up the problems we face when we try to read or pray with the Bible, as well as when we try to read through the catechism. It can be hard to read through large passages of the catechism without a way to make it relevant to our own life. When reading the Bible, it can at times be hard to pray with passages without knowing how the Church might interpret or view the passage in light of Divine Revelation. Praying with the catechism AND the Bible can be a powerful way to unlock both. (02:54) Edmund explains the index of citations, found in the back of the catechism. Using the index of citations, we can look up a passage of scripture and see everywhere that verse or passage is cited throughout the catechism. We’ll see paragraphs of the catechism listed, which we can turn to and read to shed more light on the passage of scripture.(04:27) Edmund uses Luke 19:1-10, the story of Zacchaeus meeting Jesus, as an example passage for using the index of citations. The catechism references this passage of scripture in paragraphs 2712, 1443, and 2412. By reading these three short paragraphs, we can shed more light on how the Church views this story of Zacchaeus meeting Jesus. (15:33) Edmund recommends other Scripture passages to try combining with the catechism: John 6:54, Luke 1:37, Jeremiah 31:31-34, Genesis 3:15, Luke 3:21, and Isaiah 43:1-7. Edmund also makes some final suggestions on other ways to use the index of citations, the Bible, and the catechism. One suggestion is to read the Gospel for the upcoming Sunday and referring to the index of citations to then look up the  catechism paragraphs This episode is sponsored by The CatholicTV Network on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/CatholicTVAn OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E8 Helping Others with Tough Church Topics with Mari Pablo
Jun 5 2023
S2 E8 Helping Others with Tough Church Topics with Mari Pablo
S2E8 Podcast Show Notes: Mari Pablo  Mari Pablo, a seasoned religious educator and youth minister, joins Edmund on this episode of the Real+True Podcast. Their discussion starts with dissecting Maris’ pedagogy in presenting the Church’s moral teaching, the importance of ‘first principles,’ building trust with students, and finally the power of personal testimony. Edmund asks Mari how she’d respond to a family member or co-worker who confronts her with a difficult question related to Church teaching; her response is powerful. Learn how to bring the powerful truths of our faith to life in a way that impacts hearts, and honors the beauty of our Catholic tradition. Show Notes: (00:12) Edmund welcomes Mari Pablo to the Real+True podcast. Mari graduated from Franciscan University with a double major in theology and psychology. Mari holds a Master of Theology from the Augustine Institute. She has worked in youth ministry for over 15 years. Mari currently serves with The Evangelical Catholic. Edmund and Mari discuss Mari’s first encounter with the Catechism. When teaching theology, Mari shares that her goal is to help her students see God’s plan for their lives: “What God teaches about morality will make them the happiest and freest and give them the best life possible.” (08:45) Going back to first principles: Mari discusses her pedagogy in presenting the Church’s moral teaching. She explains that she builds moral truths off of the truths of God and the human person: “Truth is real and you are created good.” And then after that foundation is in place, she then presents the Church’s teaching on morality within the context of that larger framework and worldview. This is also done once there is a foundation of truth set with her classroom.(17:34) The power of personal testimony: Mari shares the impact of implementing her own testimony when presenting the Church’s more difficult teachings. She says she isn’t afraid to admit to her students that her heart has been changed over time on morality and her conversion has been an ongoing process. She emphasizes the power of personal testimonies, and even the testimonies of her students. (24:06) When you’re asked a hard question: Edmund asks Mari to walk the listeners through a confrontation with someone asking a challenging question about the faith, “Take a breath, take a step back. Ask questions, and thank them for the question. Respond lovingly. Be patient. Break it down. Ask the Lord to help you. Know when to end the conversation, and when to say, “I don’t know the answer but I’d love to get back to you.’” Edmund encourages listeners, “when you’re reading the Catechism, ask yourself, ‘what does this have to do with Jesus?” Always bring everything back to Jesus.” This episode is sponsored by Religious Freedom Week 2023, http://www.usccb.org/ReligiousFreedomWeekAn OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E7 The First Steps in Evangelization and Catechesis with Dcn. Bob Rice
May 1 2023
S2 E7 The First Steps in Evangelization and Catechesis with Dcn. Bob Rice
“I'm convinced most of our problems in catechesis is we spend more time talking about what God wants of us than who God is.” Deacon Bob Rice, professor of Catechetics at Franciscian University of Steubenville, joins us to dive into the heart of catechesis, what our youth are most hungry for, how we can share the Gospel with those far from God, and how to make the bridge between dogma and everyday life. “They all need Jesus. They just don't know they need Jesus.” Show Notes: (00:12) Edmund kicks off the episode by introducing the guest: Deacon Bob Rice. He's a Catholic deacon, professor, podcaster, speaker, musician, and author at the Franciscan University of Steubenville. Edmund starts the conversation by asking Deacon Bob, “How did you first discover the Catechism?” Deacon Bob shares his mystical experience while reading the Catechism for the first time, and emphasizes that it's an expression of the deposit of faith and not the deposit of faith itself.(06:50) The importance of the preparation step: “Catechesis is oftentimes almost presented like an answer to a question no one was asking.” Deacon Bob and Edmund discuss the Ecclesial method and the importance of preparation in catechesis. They stress the need to understand the audience and their struggles instead of focusing solely on programs. Deacon Bob emphasizes that we need to see the goodness in people and treat catechesis as a way to build relationships and understand their needs.(14:55) “How do you know when it’s time to talk about Jesus?” Deacon Bob emphasizes that building relationships and understanding people is key to evangelizing effectively. He reminds us that everyone is made in the image and likeness of God and shares the importance of seeing the good in others. “Culture is made up of men and women who are made in the image and likeness of God.“ =(20:33) Formally handing on the faith: advice to parents, teachers, and catechists. Dcn. Rice gives us his insights into how to bring “dogma into everyday life.” He shares, “love how the Catechism is structured. Morality is called Life in Christ. So it's about being like Jesus.” He gives us three things to keep in mind: First, “Always make it about Jesus.”  Second, use the beauty of your own witness and that of the saints. Third, connect everything to the Gospel message.(26:57) “What do you see as the hunger in our youth?” Our guest shares that he sees human contact as the greatest hunger right now with young people. Additionally, he adds “truth and being able to trust the source” are dynamics young people struggle with right now.   An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E6 - Evangelizing Catechesis in Catholic Schools
Apr 3 2023
S2 E6 - Evangelizing Catechesis in Catholic Schools
Emily and Edmund welcome John Galvan, Vice President of Assessments at the National Catholic Education Association. John has served in Catholic ministry for many years and brings to the podcast a wealth of wisdom and fever for sharing the Catholic faith. Together with our host, he discusses the power of experiences, practical ways to share the faith in your home, and what’s giving him hope these days.   Shownotes: (00:04) Edmund and Emily welcome you to this episode of Real+True’s podcast. They introduce the topic of this podcast, “Evangelizing Catechesis in Catholic Schools” and our guest. John Galvan. John is the NCEA Vice President of Assessments and has been in the ministry of Catholic Education for over 30 years. He is well-versed in Catechetics and what it means for our sense of belonging in life, in and out of the Church. He holds a B.A. in art, M.A. in practical theology, and an M.Ed. in educational leadership & administration. John shares the mission of Catholic education, “it's not a concept, it's an encounter with a person. It's an encounter with the living God through Jesus Christ.” (05:55) “How do you encourage teachers to help form students within Catholic education while also knowing that some of it is just up to God's grace?” Our hosts and guests take time to wonder at the power of God’s grace and his specific plan of conversion for each soul. They talk about the many seeds that were planted in their hearts through Catholic education. (11:27 ) Emily shares, “If you're involving students in those experiences, then it's gonna be seen as not just information, but more relevant to their lives.” The discussion covers the power of experiences in helping students encounter Christ. Emily and John share about their testimonies and how they came to encounter God, encounters that we built on their previous Catholic education. The discussion goes on to cover the issue of ‘relevance’ and how to bring students to an understanding of God in their lives. (22:54) Practical ways to bring faith into your home and “creating that culture of encounter for students.” John discusses how he as a father shares his faith with his daughter, including praying with her before bed. He discusses how many children evangelize their parents and often families grow together in the faith if the children are engaging their faith in school. (27:07) ‘What excites you about the future of Catholic education?” John shares the hope he has to be seeing ministries like Real+True share the Gospel and bring the light of the Catholic faith to our world. He shares that the Church has changed in his lifetime and is growing and that brings him hope.An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E5 - Missionary Discipleship and the Catechism with Julianne Stanz
Mar 6 2023
S2 E5 - Missionary Discipleship and the Catechism with Julianne Stanz
Summary: “I think to look at the catechism as a just book would be a mistake.” Edmund welcomes Julianne Stanz, author, speaker, USCCB consultant and Director of Parish Life and Discipleship for the Diocese of Green Bay. Julianne shares her extensive knowledge on discipleship and how she sees the role of the Catechism within the life of a missionary disciple. Get to know her story, how her relationship with the Catechism changed over time, and how the Church defines the two dimensions of the Catechism itself. (00:37) Julianne Stanz, a nationally known speaker, retreat leader, storyteller, the Director of Parish Life and Discipleship in Diocese of Green Bay and a consultant to the USCCB Committee on Catechesis and Evangelization is welcomed onto this episode of the Real+True podcast. She is the author of Braving the Thin Places, Start with Jesus: How Everyday Disciples Will Renew the Church, Developing Disciples of Christ, and co-author of The Catechist’s Backpack.  (4:40) What is missionary discipleship? Julianne shares, “You hear good news every single time you go to Mass, the Gospel of the Lord.” And that our relationship with good news will change how we share it. Do we see it as good? Edmund shares that the context of being on a mission trip prompts him to behave differently — including being much more open to the Holy Spirit, and to pray with people on the spot. But once he returned home, he saw that behavior left behind. Julianne shares that context is important when we’re talking about missionary discipleship.  (12:48) “God does not use our ability, he blesses our availability.” Julianne encourages listeners who want to share the Gospel but aren’t sure how to pray, “Lord, use me." And then pray for the opportunity for him to use you in just very concrete ways.” Edmund highlights that the Informative Dossier, ​​a Church document which explains the Catechism in more depth, says that the Catechism is conciliar (from the Church) and missionary (for the purpose of sharing the Gospel.) Julianne shares, “When you receive the Eucharist, you become a tabernacle with feet,” highlighting the reality that our lives as missionary disciples are extensions of our relationship with Jesus.  (21:35) “What has your experience of the Catechism been?” Julianne shares about her conversion and encountering the Catechism as a 17-year-old student in Dublin and how her relationship with the Catechism changed overtime as she saw it less of a textbook but more of an encounter with God. And this led her to her excitement when she was asked to be an Advisor for Real+True. Edmund invites Julianne to address mistakes she often sees in evangelization “Recognize the person in front of you is not somebody that is half full that you need to fill up with information. But God already dwells in the person's heart because he always precedes us.” This episode is supported by NCEA, https://www.ncea.org/NCEA2023/whyattendAn OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E4 - Evangelizing Young Adults and the Role of the Catechism with Pete Burak
Feb 6 2023
S2 E4 - Evangelizing Young Adults and the Role of the Catechism with Pete Burak
Summary: Edmund and Emily invite Pete Burak to this episode of the Real+True Podcast. Pete is the Director of i.d. Young Adult Ministry, and Vice President of Renewal Ministries in Ann Arbor, Michigan. He’s a graduate of Franciscian University, and Sacred Heart Major Seminary. Pete has been in young adult ministry for a decade and shares his insights into the roadblocks young adults are facing in their journey with God, how to reach those with no religious affiliations, and practical steps for using the Catechism as a resource.  Show Notes (00:37) Edmund and Emily introduce this episode’s guest Pete Burak. Pete shares about Renewal Ministries, i.d. and the important role young adults play in the life of a parish. They discuss the struggles that young adults face in trying to live faithful lives– including a need for community and a fear of authority. Pete mentions the “nones” of our culture, those who do not ascribe to any religion.   (12:55) A look at the state of young adults: Pete explains what he sees in the culture. He describes the phenomenon of “Nones,” those who, when asked what religion they affiliated with, would respond, “None.” This number of people is rising and alarming. Our guest Pete dissects this with an understanding of the broken trust and broken credibility with authority in all realms (politics, sports, and even within the Church.) Emily mentions that the mission of Real+True is a counter argument to the attitude that the Church is only focused on rules and controlling behavior. But rather, through the Catechism, we see that our Catholic faith is an experience of God revealing himself to us and desiring for us to respond.  (23:08) “Catechesis is a moment in the process of evangelization.” Emily shares her insights into the role of relationship in the process of sharing the Gospel with another person. Making this personal: the role of personal testimony in sharing the Gospel. Pete mentions young adults’ desire for stability, a desire for the sacred as they build their lives. And that ultimately the Catholic Church is that place of stability and sacredness they search for. Edmund makes the point that, “People are shying away from institutional religion, but also seeking wisdom from somewhere.” Real+True exists to be that “somewhere.”  (30:26) Pete Burak shares, ”our generation's allergic to commitment… yet I've found it incredibly refreshing for young adults to be challenged to commitment.” Pete, Emily, and Edmund discuss the task of unlocking the greater mysteries of the Catholic faith, past the moral or political questions that arise more naturally. “How do we make people excited about the Trinity?” (37:21) Practical suggestions: “If you want people to engage with the Catechism, you need to know the Catechism.” Pete encourages us to encounter the Catechism for ourselves and to turn to it in discussion and dialogue. “Instead of trying to quote it, I say, "Hey, why don't we just read it?" Having the Bible and the Catechism on hand as a catechist is an idea Pete suggests for anyone handing on the faith.  This episode is supported by NCEAhttp://www.ncearise.org/An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E3 - The Universe, Astronomy, and the Catechism w/ Br. Guy Consolmagno
Jan 2 2023
S2 E3 - The Universe, Astronomy, and the Catechism w/ Br. Guy Consolmagno
“The dogmas of the faith are points that we can start at to begin the lifelong adventure of trying to understand them.” Edmund welcomes the Director of the Vatican Observatory, Br. Guy Consolmagno. Together they dive into the mystery of the universe, science, and how all of God’s creation leads back to him. Listen to hear practical advice of walking with science-minded skeptics of the faith, and how ‘bridges of faith’ can help bring others close to Jesus. (00:04) Edmundo welcomes us to this episode and introduces us to the episode’s guest Brother Guy Consolmagno who is the Director of the Vatican Observatory. He earned his Ph.D. from Georgetown University and holds the Carl Sagan Medal for Outstanding Communication by an Active Planetary Scientist to the General Public. Br. Guy explains why the Vatican has an observatory and the role it plays in modern astronomy. (03:40) “How can science supplement our faith and not be against it?” Edmund asks Br. Guy to explain the relationship between faith and reason, and how science and theology intertwine. He goes on to tell us that reason comes from God. And also, that we can’t overlook the desire we have for good explanations and the pleasure we receive in them. Science is powerful because we enjoy it and because it leads us to a greater understanding of God. (10:20) “Is Christianity just to fill in the gaps that science can’t explain?” Br. Guy addresses this question that Edmund poses to him. And goes on to explain that many scientists he encounters believe in God, and have some sort of faith system. Br. Guy shares that wearing the collar of a religious has opened the door for many fruitful conversations between him and his colleagues about faith since it clearly shows that Br. Guy is religious.  (15:21) The danger of looking to science for certainty: Br. Guy describes what he sees in our culture concerning how people search for absolute answers about the world around them, and ultimately religion does offer the answers we are all looking for. The conversation goes on to “The universe has to be logical or it wouldn't work. But it doesn't have to be beautiful. And yet it is.” The discussion revisits the idea of certainty and Br. Guy shares a quote from Anne Lamot:, "the opposite of faith isn't doubt. The opposite of faith is certainty." He says, “If you had certainty, then you wouldn't need faith.”(20:35) Edmund asks Br. Guy about his popular books, the stories behind their names, and why he wrote them. Br. Guy shares the interpretations of his books and the purpose of his writings. They discuss the importance of bridges of faith, of finding ways to connect with those who are skeptical of the faith, and using science and what we know of the universe to proclaim God’s goodness. An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.
S2 E2 - The Mission of the Catechism with Dr. Petroc Willey
Dec 5 2022
S2 E2 - The Mission of the Catechism with Dr. Petroc Willey
Emily and Edmund welcome to the Real+True podcast Dr. Petroc Willey, Ph.D, who has dedicated his life to studying and sharing the gift of the Catechism with our Church. This episode tackles the questions, “what’s the difference between catechesis and evangelization? Do they overlap at all? And how do we encounter Christ in the Catechism?” Dr. Petroc Willey, Ph.D shares how he first encountered the Catechism, a powerful and practical way to pray with the Catechism itself, and how to appreciate the Catechism for the gift that it is to us. (00:10) Edmund and Emily introduce this episode, its mission and its guest. Today, they are joined by Dr. Petroc Willey, Ph.D, Ph.D. professor of theology at the Franciscian University of Steubenville. Dr. Willey is the Director of the Catechetical Institute at Franciscan University of Steubenville, Ohio, Consultor for the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of the New Evangelisation (now the Dicastery for Evangelization) in Rome, and is on the Board of Advisors for Real+True. Edmund shares how he encountered Dr. Willey and the impact of Dr. Willey(03:40) “How did you encounter the Catechism, Dr. Willey?” Our guest shares how a project to write a commentary on the Catechism introduced him to the book that would change his life. “It (the Catechism) was asking of me a response of faith, and it was challenging me into entering a relationship with Christ the whole time. It wasn’t a book that could just stay on the shelf.” Edmundo then shares his personal story of encountering the Catechism. (10:20) Catechesis and Evangelization: what’s the difference? And how do they overlap? Evangelization is a process, and catechesis is a moment within it. Dr. Willey explores this and details that the Church considers primary catechists to be parents. “The catechist needs what's in the catechism in order to introduce the other person to Jesus Christ and his saving truth.” The goal of catechesis is ‘insertion into the mystery of Christ.” (19:50) Introducing others to Christ: encountering the Catechism and encountering Christ. Dr. Willey shows us an example of how the Catechism speaks to the human heart, and the “depth of its spirituality.” Dr. Willey switches out the word “mankind” with the name of the person he’s speaking to as an example of how powerful the Catechism is. Emily asks Edmund to explain how to pray with the Catechism, following the structure of Lectio Divina. An OSV Podcasts partner. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.