Be #PeopleSmart Founder, Jodie Greer chats with Divinegift David Usman, growing disability inclusion advocate, about lived experience of being disabled in Nigeria and making a difference with disability inclusion and accessibility without the weight of legislation.

Jodie and Divinegift are busting the myths that:

"Assistive technology isn't available in Africa," and

"Accessibility can't happen without legislation."

Hear about the solutions Divinegift found to achieve his education, with a visual impairment, with some help from some friends, before he found assistive technology.

You'll also hear why Jodie and Divinegift believe people make far more difference than legislation, and what Divinegift means when he talks about the hearts of men when it comes to societal behaviour.

You can find Divinegift on LinkedIn, and he welcomes connections from anyone who values people.

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