“I call it an explorative mindset for racing… ‘Let's see what I can do,’ rather than, ‘This is what I need to do.’” - Katie ZaferesToday's guest is Katie Zaferes, a two-time Olympic Games qualifier and 2019 ITU World Triathlon Series Champion.For Katie, the road to Tokyo has been anything but smooth. We not only explore her mindset as a world class triathlete, we also talk about what’s been going on in her life since the onset of the pandemic, including the unexpected passing of her father earlier this year. According to Katie, it was the combination of the “try it and see what happens” attitude instilled in her from both of her parents, as well as her father’s sneaky plan to get her into triathlons, that contributed to her becoming one of the world’s best. As we talked about her current preparations for Tokyo, we got insight into how she’s taken and applied the lessons she’s learned since her disappointing finish at the 2016 Rio Olympics. We’re really excited to share our conversation with Katie with the summer Olympics just a few weeks away.Show Notes(2:34) Three different time zones and training in Spain…(4:00) A truly international training team…(6:09) Grocery stores, logistics, and technology…(9:06) How has it been in Europe with Covid regulations?(12:22) “It's also been really cool because in 2019, almost everyone on our team had been on the podium for the world triathlon series. And in 2018 Joel had four out of six of the overall podium spots with our squad. All three men were on the podium for the overall, and then I was on it for the women. So it's a really cool squad to be a part of.”(14:24) When competitors push you to be great...(16:36) A community of support during a challenging time…(19:02) “So I was like, okay, I'll do this with you, only to find out years later that he might've had a little sneaky insight that maybe I would be good at triathlon. Cause at that time I was running track and swimming and he was thinking, oh, well this could go somewhere.” A dad’s influence and a start in the sport…(23:44) “I call it an explorative mindset for racing… ‘Let's see what I can do,’ rather than, ‘This is what I need to do.’”(26:54) The many lessons from Rio and the benefits of a sports psychologist..(30:07) How tools in the toolbox made a difference on the bike…(33:19) Taking ownership and communicating effectively…(34:21) Crashes, training, and Tokyo…(37:55) Navigating a rocky road…References2019 Tokyo Qualifier Crash - Olympics.comKatie's Coach Joel Filliol - websiteLet Your Mind Run by Deena Kastor - AmazonGuestKatie Zaferes - website | Instagram | FacebookHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“I genuinely believe that we should be learning our entire life. And there's a part of me that feels excited for when I'm 78 years old, and all the things I will have learned.”Difficult conversations can very often lead into areas of personal growth.Lifelong runner Tina Muir doesn’t shy away from these discussions as she builds her two successful running podcasts, Running for Real and Running Realized, and continues to challenge fixed mindsets.Timestamped Show Notes:(2:50) Growing up in a classically English town…(6:03) The difference between club sports and school sports…(8:13) “When I was coming up to my final year of college, people kept saying, ‘Are you going to go pro?’ And I was like, ‘What does that even mean?’” (11:12) A lifestyle component to pursuing sports…(14:24) “I can absolutely see why she said that I wasn't committed. I was just plodding along, not really trying. But I did manage to pull it together for the final few races. And once I got through that part, it was not a question—running was a part of me.”(16:52) When commitment goes too far…(19:00) And then there’s those who don’t commit…(20:40) Do you have a fixed mindset or growth mindset?(23:08) The mission of Go Be More…(25:21) “To ignore your dreams, in my opinion, is really to ignore the opportunity to fully understand who you are before it's all said and done.”—Jon(26:50) Does the influence of others impact your mindset?(30:04) A surprising decision…(33:50) “Once I decided I'm done then I felt a huge relief... but I just couldn't get myself to say it. And even when I stopped, I think that was such a dramatic, emotional moment that I didn't know it was for sure. But once I said it in a calm, rational manner, after thinking about it for a few days, then it felt like a huge relief.”(34:29) A couple of new distractions… (37:04) How much did you evolve as a podcaster?(39:40) Conversations that grew into a different platform…(41:21) Running For Real and Running Realized explained…(44:36) What does Go Be More mean to you...“Taking yourself beyond your comfort zone and stepping out to a place that feels like it's helping you to grow and evolve. And I genuinely believe that we should be learning our entire life. And there's a part of me that feels excited for when I'm 78 years old, all the things I will have learned. I'd say it's just what we've been talking about today. Like stretching yourself and taking that deep breath and then doing it anyway, whatever scares you, take a deep breath and go for it.”If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Kara Goucher and Audra Bryant.Recorded April 30, 2021.References:Running for Real - websiteRunning Realized - websiteGuest:Tina Muir - website | Instagram | TwitterHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective MarketingImage Credit: Sandy Gutierrez

“My successes tend to come after moments that felt like my biggest failures.” - Shannon RowburyIt’s easy to view great athletes through just the lens of their training and results. But in this episode, you’ll be reminded there’s so much more to a balanced life.Shannon authentically shares her thoughts on dance, recovery, competing, advocating, and parenting. Her intentional approach to every life endeavor is refreshing and inspiring.Show Notes(3:10) Life now, growing up with Grandma and Irish dance…(8:15) How did the performance aspect of dance translate into successes in running?(11:10) “The more that you can be present, and react to what's coming around you and utilize those strengths and skills that you've sharpened through training, that's when you have the highest likelihood of success.”(14:22) The family bonding experience of dance and sports…(17:16) A transition to running and the impact of a coach…(20:25) “The role of a coach is to lay the fundamentals... if you want to be good, if you want to be great, it's not going to happen at the end of high school. And probably not even at the end of college, it's going to happen through year after year of hard work... And it's teaching those lessons of how to show up and be a good teammate and ultimately reach that mountaintop over years of consistent effort.”(23:22) An injury and a career turning point…(24:51) “After feeling my feelings, which I did for a little bit, I really focused on understanding the root of the problem and making a thoughtful and patient plan to be back to my best fitness in a year from where I was rather than, "I have to be ready by the fall," or, "I have to be ready by indoors…" Let's just go through this recovery process in the way that it needs to be done.”(29:04) Getting “permission” to be patient…(31:31) The secret to getting the best out of yourself when the stakes are the highest…(35:28) “I describe it like the pendulum. You can't swing this way if you don't swing that way. And, so really trying to find that balance in life so that you can be ready and willing and in the right space, mentally, physically, and heart, when it matters most.”(36:00) Imagining More…(40:25) On deciding to be a Mom… “I wanted to make sure she knew that she was my first priority, and I'm trying to make sure that she doesn't ever resent running because it took me away from her. I try to include her in what I'm doing as much as possible. And it brings me such joy that she gets to interact with world champions and Olympians and incredible, incredible people.”(44:15) “If you create a structure for success, our women will come back and do amazing things, but we really need to make it a more supportive, inclusive system.”(45:42) What does Go Be More mean? “I'm really proud to have been someone that didn't let the norms around me set my expectations for myself and that instead it was really, how can I go be more? How can I be the best version of myself? And as much as possible, trying to define what that is, rather than what has been. And so to me Go Be More is being a trailblazer.”If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Olympians Kara Goucher and Amy Acuff.Recorded April 30, 2021.References:Imagining More Foundation - websiteParity - website3-Time Olympian Shannon Rowbury Turning 2020 Into Miracle Season - TeamUSA.orgGuest:Shannon Rowbury - website | Instagram | TwitterHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“I like to try new things and just keep bettering myself in whatever it is that I'm trying to challenge myself at the given time.”Being a top-level athlete in an event that involves chugging beer AND running laps might sound too good to be true for most people. But for Chris, it’s a serious, albeit fun, reality.Listen in as he, Jon, and Bryan chat about “pouring” (pun intended) yourself into physical challenges, entrepreneurial opportunities, and building brands.Show Notes(2:31) Early years in sports and deciding to focus on running…(6:06) Breakout season and college experience… “For the amount of time I was putting into running, I think I was never limited. And looking back, I’m pretty happy with the success that I had in improving every single year throughout college.”(9:54) The lifelong impact of individual experiences…(11:04) “A big takeaway from that is, I'd prioritize running very high in my life, but it's never the sole priority… career and entrepreneurial ventures excite me just as much as running…”(12:41) Taking responsibility for your own results…(14:48) “I'm very much a person that will try something, and either it works, and great I’ll iterate on it. Or if it doesn't work, then I learned from it.”(16:23) A first experience with the beer mile…(19:40) An event that pulls in the non-running community…(21:55) When it became serious…(24:11) “There is a technique to chugging, and yes, a bottle is better than a can, and here's the angle to hold it at. And all these like little pieces that I would've never even thought about, a year or two before that time… I’m going to keep learning.”(26:59) Approach to training and running in other events…(30:35) A summer in Colorado and trying new things…(32:37) “I don't want to limit myself and say that I only have this one siloed goal when my interests are going to change. Realizing what my different talents are, I'm probably gonna realize new things and learn more about myself over the years.”(34:54) The three paths to being super successful…(36:44) The beer mile podcast endeavor…(38:24) Creating a lifestyle of pursuing different interests…(41:27) What does Go Be More mean to you? “No matter what you're pursuing in life, whether it's athletic or spending more time with your family or pursuing a career, to me, it just means you're always trying to level up and be better at whatever it is you're doing.”If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Beer Mile World Classic creator Nick MacFalls and sub-4 miler/entrepreneur Bryan Lindsay.Recorded April 26, 2021.References:Chris's record race videos - ChrisRobertson.xyzBeerMile.com - websiteBeer Mile World Classic - websiteBeer Mile Podcast - Audio | VideoBeer Mile Media - YouTubeDeveloping your Skills Network and the Importance of Multiplier Skills - Go Be More blogGuest:Chris Robertson - website | InstagramHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“I didn't really have a vision. It was just like these little wins that kept me going and really inspired me to create more.” - Kelli HashimotoWith the intent to make her friends smile, Kelli found a way to connect her artistic abilities with her love of the running community. And as a result, Runnergrams was born.Listen in as she and Bryan chat about the challenges in the creative process, scaling up entrepreneurial ideas, and pursuing happiness.Timestamped Show Notes(3:27) A crazy year, a backyard wedding, and being positive…(6:08) Growing up and finding a love for running through a family competition…(11:04) “And at that time, 13 miles seemed unachievable to me, but I was like, okay, if you say so, I'll sign up for this half marathon. And then right after I finished, I was like, that was hard, but I guess I'll sign up for my first full marathon.” An intro into the running community…(12:05) Connecting running with art…(13:28) The genesis of Runnergrams…(15:28) Going from a side project for friends to a more public project… “I was getting more creative, I would say, I was thinking of puns. I love puns. And so apparently, everyone else does, too.”(17:07) From encouraging friends to building a business… “As artists you're always kind of growing and that's why you hate some of the stuff that you've done before.”(18:35) Starting with low expectations…(20:06) A great framework to Go Be More…(22:45) “I truly don't think of myself as a traditional artist. When I think about what I'm doing with Runnergrams, I know that I am creating, and I think a big challenge for me is believing in myself.” Confidence is a strange quality…(25:36) The concept of self-efficacy…(28:06) The impact of the running community…(30:04) “At first, it was fun. And I was like, okay, maybe I'll just keep drawing for the same friends over and over, but it quickly kind of spread.”(33:15) Challenges faced as Runnergrams is growing…(37:29) Next Step and North Star goals…(39:22) What does Go Be More mean? “I actually love it because it kind of resonates with a lot of how I think normally. I can get lazy and sit on the couch and watch Netflix all day. But I think for me, ‘Go Be More’ is that reminder—don't do that.You can be so much more; you can use your time so much wiser, like to read a book. For me, it's creating, but it’s that reminder of not getting trapped in that.”If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Vessel Athletics' Jasmine Sanchez and Jalen Brown or athlete/advocate Dani Reyes-Acosta.Recorded April 19, 2021.References:Runnergrams - InstagramCoach Jess (@paceofme) - InstagramGuest:Kelli Hashimoto - website | Instagram | TwitterHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“Find the stuff that you enjoy doing. If it's spending time with your family going to the beach, going to museums or parks or whatever, schedule all that stuff in first and then figure out how to schedule all the work stuff around that.”As entrepreneurs, we can forget that powerful brands are usually a result of many iterations along the way. And successful business journeys take TIME.Matt, Bryan, and Jon dig into this reality as they look at the progression from a family’s shutter company and a failed blog to a top tactical marketing podcast that teaches companies how to build a tribe with their podcast.(2:31) Early stomping grounds…(5:23) An easy jump into entrepreneurship…(8:07) “And so between Rich Dad Poor Dad and The Four Hour Work Week, those two books really opened our eyes to what was possible in very low overhead businesses that led us down the blogging path.”(11:08) Dipping your toes in the water…(13:20) “But in that process, I also learned about blogging. I learned how to create a WordPress website. I learned how to put ads on it. I learned how to start driving some traffic and SEO and all the fundamentals. Even though that site failed, it was a great learning experience where I got all sorts of intel on how to do it a little bit better the next time.”(15:01) The concept of talent stacks…(18:16) Skill sets that compliment…(21:16) A two-headed dragon, and when things really clicked…(24:08) Going down the assessment rabbit hole…(27:18) “It's one thing to know what needs to be done. And it's another thing to build an actual system that works with the actual resources you have in the amount of time you actually have.”—Bryan(29:55) “Everything has to either be a kill, automate or delegate.”(32:29) The main components of the business and what they’re most passionate about…(35:04) Balancing the day-to-day…(37:08) “Find the stuff that you enjoy doing. If it's spending time with your family going to the beach, going to museums or parks or whatever, schedule all that stuff in first and then figure out how to schedule all the work stuff around that.”(39:39) An approach to goal setting…(41:41) “I think we've had this fuzzy vision of where we want to be, but the mechanism to get there, we're very flexible on.”(44:58) Plan continuation bias…(49:02) How PodHacker came to be…(52:43) The many purposes of a podcast…(54:55) What do the words Go Be More mean to you? “I'd say in the context of this conversation, Go Be More means you're more than just your business. Go live your life and let the business be the mechanism for it. That's how I would define it.”If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Matt's Hustle & Flowchart co-host Joe Fier or our conversation on Multiplier Skills.Recorded April 19, 2021.References:PodHacker course - websiteHustle & Flowchart Podcast - websiteEvergreen Profits Membership - websiteRich Dad, Poor Dad - AmazonThe Four Hour Work Week - AmazonFueling the Pursuit - websiteGuest:Matt Wolfe - Twitter | InstagramHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“Replenishing, stretching, icing, therapy, sleeping, and the mind frame are important. So for me, you know, even when you’re sleeping you’re training. I really believe it was a 24/7 job.” - Meb Keflezighi Today's guest is Meb Keflezighi, arguably the greatest marathoner in US history.Meb has been someone I've looked up to for more nearly 30 years! In many ways, I've been chasing Meb ever since I became a runner. My co-host, Bryan, and I got to catch up with Meb and dive into what makes him, well, Meb! Consistency, preparation and intention are words that can easily define Meb and how he approached his craft as a runner everyday. But it was how he framed these elements that led to sustained excellence for twenty years. This is what we explore in our episode with Meb today.Show Notes(7:11) Where are you right now?(8:58) What are the qualities that stand out in Meb, according to Bryan, Jon, and Meb(12:16) Approaching races with a boldness… “I'm not super comfortable for the last lap, so I got to make it count beforehand.”(14:25) Being a “chasee” and later becoming the “chased”... early college experiences that shaped Meb’s mindset…(16:46) Developing patience, “...it is one goal at a time, one event at a time.”(18:51) Thoughts on risk versus reward…(20:47) What went into building a sustainable career?(23:53) Jon’s recounting of watching the Athens Olympic Marathon and Meb’s thoughts during the event…(27:30) “No athlete in history has probably done more drills than Meb.” —Coach Bob Larsen(29:35) “I'm going to plug your book here, Make the Leap. You have to be able to think better, train better, and all that comes to be run faster.”(31:41) Sharing about a devastating injury in 2008 and a new perspective…(38:52) Lessons learned while coming back from an injury…(41:30) “You know, it’s mind-boggling what the body can do when it’s in the right mind frame.” Meb and Jon reflect on past injuries and healing.(45:00) “...failure is just another building block towards a larger success in the future.”—Bryan - Meb shares habits that contribute to success.(48:23) Meb’s relationship with UCAN… “The best thing you could do is get the right nutrition to help you accomplish whatever your goal is. And I think UCAN has done that for me.”(52:09) Meb Foundation, being an intentional Dad, writing, and continuing to enjoy running…If you enjoyed this episode, check out our interview with Meb's brother Merhawi Keflezighi or his long-time rival, 5-time Olympian Abdi Abdirahman.ReferencesFueling the Pursuit, presented by UCAN - UCAN.co/podcastGo Be More Podcast with Meb's coach Bob Larsen - Part 1 | Part 2Run to Overcome - AmazonMeb for Mortals - Amazon26 Marathons - AmazonMake the Leap - maketheleapbook.comGuestMeb Keflezighi - Website | Instagram | TwitterHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“We’ve been talking a lot about goals and especially North Star goals, big goals. The reality is if you’re trying to achieve a really big goal, you’re going to have to achieve some level of mastery, some level of expertise in order to achieve it.”—Bryan GreenAre you trying to master something? Jon and Bryan take a deep dive into the five levels of mastery, the importance of mental representations, and the power of purposeful practice. Whether you’re a runner trying to scale up performances, or you are struggling to become more adept at a new skill, you’ll want to download and listen to this episode. Careful explanations, practical steps, and personal stories bring this wisdom to life.(3:00) New and trending on the apparel side of Go Be More…(6:18) “That's what I think a Go Be More shirt should be doing for you. It should be representing that thing you're aspiring towards. And then whenever you see it, whether you're wearing it or not, you get that reminder that ‘I'm committed to this.’”(7:56) “It's really centered on a very specific question—which is how you get the most out of yourself and training. I think it’s something that you and I are both interested in and these are some of the best people in the world to speak to about it.” Jon and Bryan are hosting a second podcast called Fueling the Pursuit.(10:12) Listen here for a discount code for UCAN products!(11:14) How to become an expert…(11:52) Warren Buffett, Mike Tyson, and Jerry Seinfeld…(14:05) The 5 levels of mastery explained…(17:03) “I wanted to be the greatest of all-time at something, and that was running one mile around the track. I wanted to do it faster than anybody ever did it and I wanted to win a gold medal doing it.”(20:22) The difference between fluency and creativity…(22:52) Mental representations and Anders Ericsson…(24:41) Jon’s personal experience with an intuitive understanding…(29:02) The three types of practice... (32:32) The different nuances of practice and looking at the Go Be More venture through the mastery framework…(35:20) The four main components of purposeful practice...“Whenever you're training, practicing, learning, studying or whatever you're doing, you have to be focused on improving specific skills.”(41:41) The challenge with feedback…(42:49) “So go hurry up and fail already. Go blow up and see how bad it isn't. Because the moment you know that it isn’t, you'll break five.” A young man who was afraid to fail…If you liked this episode, check out our episode on the Five Levels of Mastery and last week's episode on re-thinking goal setting.Recorded April 9, 2021.References:New Go Be More items - Gobemore.coFueling the Pursuit by UCAN - websiteShop at UCAN and save 20% (w/free shipping) - online shop (use code UCANGOBEMORE)Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise by Anders Ericsson - AmazonMake the Leap - Website | Newsletter | Instagram | FacebookHosts:Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.coJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“It doesn't matter how passionate we are or how much desire we have if you're doing things in a very ineffective and inefficient way. It's hard to sustain the effort. It's hard to really make progress.”—Jon Rankin If you believe there’s value in collaborating and positive impact through conversation, then you’ll love this episode.Jon and Bryan recount some of the “ah-ha” moments from recent episodes—thanks to compelling guest interviews. And they look forward to a new and exciting partnership as hosts of UCAN’s Fueling the Pursuit podcast.Listen in to the best snippets and gold nuggets, and Go Be More today.(3:25) Fueling the Pursuit, an exciting new partnership with UCAN…(5:33) Getting better and growing as podcasters…(9:02) Exploring new ideas through conversations…(11:07) “We get to explore the mindset of Olympians, elite athletes, coaches, and trainers, and even just everyday people doing extraordinary things.”(13:34) “We have a special code in partnership with them, which is UCANGOBEMORE. We'll put a link in all this in the show notes, but if you're interested in trying out their products, you can get 20% off and free shipping with that coupon."(15:52) A recent episode that has gotten a lot of feedback—exploring North Star goals and Next Step goals…(18:39) Validating stories from Peter Gilmore and pursuing what feels right with Dani Reyes-Acosta…(21:34) The One Thing—an episode with Bryan and Geoff Woods that connected concepts about goal setting…(23:36) Working definitions of North Star goals and Next Step goals…(25:55) “Honestly, the bigger the goals, the bigger the dreams, the more I felt alive.”(26:55) The challenge with setting North Star goals…(30:18) “I took for granted the relevance of actually highlighting Next Step goals, even if it was just a couple. You need stepping stones to understand the path or at least some of the things that are clearly required to make progress towards the bigger goals.”(34:11) Two guys still learning and conversations that lead to new mental connections…(36:43) Bringing clarity with two meaningful metaphors…(40:03) “Pick something that's big and crazy and feels huge. We basically went out to that furthest domino and we went backward saying, 'Where do you need to be in half the time?'”(43:06) “So it's not that there's a better strategy. It's not that everything I'm doing, I shouldn't be doing. But that there are probably other directions I can take that might move the needle faster.”(47:03) Big visions, the courage to work it out, and therapy sessions—moving the “needle” forward...If you liked this episode, check out our conversation with The One Thing's Geoff Woods or our conversation about Backcasting.Recorded March 31, 2021.References:Fueling the Pursuit by UCAN - websiteShop at UCAN and save 20% (w/free shipping) - online shop (use code UCANGOBEMORE)The surprisingly simple goal-setting strategy used by billionaires - gobemore.coPrevious Go Be More conversations about Newman Design Squiggle | Multiplier Skills | Friction | 80/20 RuleRecent Go Be More interviews with Amy Acuff | Garrett Heath | Peter Gilmore | Nick MacFalls | Dani Reyes-AcostaMake the Leap - Website | Newsletter | Instagram | FacebookHosts:Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.coJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“I can say now, I was really trying to live with intention. That's what it comes down to.  Trying to make decisions based on what felt right, what felt good, and what I think is the right step to take.”Many admire a life lived with intention, passion, and purpose, but few dare to figure out what that looks like—and pursue it.Dani Reyes-Acosta left an envied corporate job with Nike to determine how her passions and skill sets could work together to create a life she loves. This conversation may very well inspire YOU to re-evaluate those aspects of how you’re living your life.(1:58) A girl and her splitboard at the foot of Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming…(4:31) Splitboarding explained, and how an adventurous outdoors life began…(7:46) Life events that led to a reset…(12:44) “Working in a team, being creative, doing large scale impactful work is what really makes my heart sing.”(15:45) Exploring her human potential and the broader environment through backcountry splitboarding…(18:30) Outlier - her project that marries storytelling, marketing, filmmaking, and strategizing… “What I think is really cool about this project is how the stories we tell inform the stories we believe about ourselves.”(21:47) How do we honor our heritage and honor the land?(24:59) An invitation to growth…(26:41) Scaling-up in backcountry ability and knowledge… “By no means, do I think I know everything. I've just really tried to surround myself with people that are also trying to learn.”(30:31) Teaching, educating, and giving back… “I think, fundamentally, a growth journey is always going to be underpinned by embracing failure.”(33:54) Bringing underrepresented communities into the story…(37:42) Connecting backcountry skiing with heritage, inclusivity, and brand messaging…(39:46) “We want to see people be who they were born to be, by chasing what makes sense to them. Because in turn, they become what the world is chasing, which means they're inspiring others to do the same.”—Jon Rankin(42:44) What does Go Be More mean to you? “It's really, how do you rise up from failure, from success, happiness, and sadness? And being in spaces of light and spaces of dark, whether you've achieved something amazing or have fallen flat on your face—literally or metaphorically—I think that what defines us is, how do we rise up and what are the next steps we take?”If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Olympian Kara Goucher and newscaster Kristina Audencial.Recorded March 12, 2021.References:Nomad Creativa - websiteHow to Splitboard - YouTubeGuests:Dani Reyes-Acosta - website | InstagramHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

Want to help us grow the show? Leave us a Rating and Review!“We're not just thought leaders, we're practice leaders. We practice what we teach. So you have to live it.”Some podcasts have so many nuggets of truth that you commit to listening more than once. Geoff and Bryan’s conversation is one of these.Geoff has a system for honing in on the one thing that will bring about the best results. He walks Bryan through the exact sequence of questions and thoughts that will scale-up Bryan’s Make the Leap book project. And in the process, he lays out a path for everyone looking to master their time and resources.(3:30) “The shift is coming and there's always a gift in the shift.” Pivoting business because of Covid…(5:37) Have you ever been in a place where even though things are good, you’re lacking fulfillment? Geoff speaks about what led to his lightbulb moment.(7:32) Exposure to The One Thing, the simple truth behind extraordinary results and the start of a new company…(11:12) Going from doing the best you can do to studying the best in the world…(12:02) Ideas that change people…(17:23) “There's no such thing as work-life balance. It's not like these scales where they're going to be completely equal. It does not exist. What we have to realize is that life is a balancing act.”(18:57) Going long and staying short…(21:07) “You got to stop doing the stuff that you're probably doing right now, because most people, if I followed them around with a camera, I'd see them majoring in the minors.” Choosing ONE thing…(24:34) The domino effect and a powerful habit…(26:53) “Think big, but go small and trust the dominoes will fall.”(31:16) Forming habits…(34:35) A little one-on-one coaching for Bryan’s book project…(46:34) What does Go Be More mean to you? “Think big, go small, trust the dominoes will fall. Have a big vision and understand that the path to getting there is not by doing everything. It’s about viewing all the things you can do like dominoes: stand them up, line them up, whack away at the first one.”If you liked this episode, check out our our conversations about the 80/20 rule and self-referenced goal-setting.Recorded February 26, 2021.References:The One Thing (book) - AmazonThe One Thing (company) - websiteThe One Thing Podcast - websiteLargest Toppling Dominos World Record - YouTubeGuests:Geoff Woods - LinkedInHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

Want to help us grow the show? Leave us a Rating and Review!“I think ideas are nothing without that grind. And it's the same with running, you can have all the talent, but you have to be able to get through the setbacks that come. Whether that's injuries or poor performance. It’s just being able to keep pushing through.”“Giving back” is a desirable achievement but something that is not always prioritized. Except with Nick MacFalls.He’s managed to bring together his skills and passions over and over to build community, develop programs, produce engaging and fun events and live a life filled with meaning and purpose.Show Topics(2:57) A crazy Italian family, bootlegging, and the ‘84 Olympics—Nick’s recollection of early, formative years growing up in Pennsylvania.(5:03) A stepfather’s influence and the opportunities that came from being a high school cross country champ…(7:31) “I volunteered at the VA and the recreation department and everyone's like, 'Man if I had to do it again, I'd go into the Air Force.' And I heard that so much.” Choosing the Academy…(9:30) Balancing the requirements of Air Force, school, and running…(11:29) Gaining perspective from a prisoner of war, “They broke me yesterday, but I'm going to win today.”—Colonel Kenneth Hughey(14:38) “I wasn't really driven into the military. It was a way out for me.”(15:13) The benefits of being in the military…(16:23) Getting around an asthma setback…(19:42) The Military World Games…(23:40) A shoe program begins…(27:21) “I put on events for the Multiple Sclerosis Society and I think I'm happiest when I'm packing the trucks.” The sweet spot of coordinating events…(28:28) Creating events focused on team camaraderie and the whole field of athletes…(32:18) “Having a group to run with, do workouts with, grab a beer with that became the focus for me in the latter part of my running career.”(33:30) The four pillars…(34:05) Working with the MS Society...(38:06) A funny and relatable story of every runner’s worst nightmare…(41:15) What does Go Be More mean to you? “I really look at things on a day-by-day basis and there are things that I want to accomplish every day that are part of a bigger goal. And like I said, I'm kind of a grinder. So, a great day for me is a day that I accomplished something, that I get to work out, that I get to connect with someone. For me, those are the aspects that I like to keep feeding in my life. And when one of them's missing, I feel something's missing in my life. So that's the biggest thing, balancing connectivity and consistency.”If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with coach/event promoter Tracy Sundlun and Nick's former roommate US marathoner Peter Gilmore.Recorded February 22, 2021.References:Colonel Kenneth Hughey - POW NetworkMilitary World Games - WikipediaNational MS Society - websiteBeer Mile World Classic - websiteGuests:Nick MacFalls - LinkedInHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

Want to help us grow the show? Leave us a Rating and Review!“For whatever reason, I had some ability that was a little bit better than average at being able to put all my eggs into that basket and deliver on a consistent basis.” --Peter GilmoreAdmiration flows out effortlessly when a person’s success results from their work ethic, perspective, and consistent application. In this conversation, you’ll hear about Peter Gilmore’s career-defining lesson from running in Kenya, his patient and persistent approach to training, and his relentless pursuit to close the gaps between him and his competitors.(2:50) Early days of tagging along with a running mom…(6:27) Making sports fun, and other ways to incentivize young athletes…(11:46) Peter’s rise in running in high school and college…(14:21) “I was super driven. Nobody was going to outwork me. Nobody was going to be more into it than I was. I had an endless well of enthusiasm for the sport, for training, for racing, and for setting goals.”(15:06) The story about Kenya… “I'd go for a run. There'd be, no joke, like a hundred kids running next to me.”(20:27) Biggest takeaway from Kenyan experience… “You could work a hell of a lot harder than you thought you could and still not burn out, if you did it smart.”(24:17) The impact of the internet on developing runners…(28:36) “It's kind of the compounding effect of all the years of being consistent and just not screwing up. It's iterative too because you're always gonna have to make adjustments along the way.”(29:28) “Hamilton’s” insight on staying in your own lane…(31:29) Jon’s observations on the central themes of Peter’s running career…(34:33) Bryan shares Peter's indirect role in his running success…(39:34) Competition versus the individual race…(42:50) Going all in… “...if you made good decisions, but the result was bad, it doesn't necessarily mean the decision was bad.”(44:50) A funny masters running story…(48:47) What does Go Be More mean to you? “Not being afraid to be different in either the way you do things, or the way you think about things, or the way you express yourself, to get to achieve it… I think being more is, is being more about being who you are.”If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with author and runner Toby Tanser and Olympic marathoner Abdi Abdirahman.Recorded February 22, 2021.References:More Fire: How to Run the Kenyan Way by Toby Tanser - AmazonGuests:Peter GilmoreHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

Want to help us grow the show? Leave us a Rating and Review!“If I can get myself physically and mentally ready to go, I know I'm going to beat a lot of people that maybe I shouldn't beat, even before I get to that starting line.”—Garrett HeathThere are times when you meet someone and think, what you see is what you get. Despite their “greatness” in a particular arena of life, they STILL are so down to earth.That describes Garrett Heath.With many similar running memories, Jon, Bryan, and Garrett quickly jump into early formative experiences, cross-training benefits, and the highs and lows of a professional running career.(2:14) Chasing down Jon…(5:09) How has the pandemic impacted training?(9:17) Growing up in an athletic and outdoorsy Minnesota family…(11:39) Bryan, Garrett, and Jon reflect on high school coaches and their impact. “Our coach had a good way of making it fun while also being very disciplined.”—Garrett(15:11) Nordic skiing state champion or cross-country great all depended on the time of year. Garrett speaks to the benefits for runners who cross-train.(19:47) Thoughts on effort, exposure, and learning…(22:26) Transitions from high school to college…(25:48) “Put successful people around you, or people with similar motivations, and you're gonna rise as well, or you're gonna naturally get better just by being around them.”(27:27) Building momentum with little things…(29:12) An eye-opening experience in Europe…(32:33) “You have this realization... that everything I thought mattered doesn't really matter that much… the training's there, the basics are there. I'm overthinking stuff, if I think everything has to go to plan.”(34:13) Jon’s secret weapon…(35:35) Beating Mo Farah… and Garrett’s explanation of a race split in thirds.(40:40) Next steps for Garrett…(41:29) What does Go Be More mean to Garrett?If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with elite runners Will Leer and Ryan Miller.Recorded February 19, 2021.References:Great Edinburgh X-Country 2016 - YouTubeBrooks Beasts Track Club - InstagramGuests:Garrett Heath - @garrettheathHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

Want to help us grow the show? Leave us a Rating and Review!“I always keep thinking about high jump at some level, or the technique, and part of what drew me to the event was the analysis and the refinement and trying to settle and find what is the ideal, best way to do it.”—Amy AcuffIt’s always refreshing to meet someone who approaches life with a hunger to learn and a drive to find creative ways of connecting skills with passions.Amy Acuff has done just that.In this episode, her Olympic achievements are the impressive background to the fascinating conversation she has with Jon and Bryan. They cover topics ranging from early Olympic dreams, a “tiny” mentor, the inevitability of failure, developing iPhone apps, and a reason to preserve free speech. (2:33) A weather crisis during a pandemic…(8:03) Athlete psychology is often like the psychology of winning the lottery… (11:01) “Training for athletics is a lot like being a farmer.”(12:33) The nature of always wanting more… “It's like you're climbing a ladder and the bottom disappears so that you never see all the distance you came. You only see what's ahead of you.”(16:23) The mindset of pushing and pushing and pushing…(17:43) Formulating a wish to be an Olympian…(20:42) History-rich UCLA experiences…(22:25) A tiny but powerful mentor…(25:59) “There can only be one Olympic champion every four years. And there's only one world record holder at a time.” The inevitability of failure…(27:44) Picking a new area to learn…(32:30) Landing at the intersection of sports, health, and technology…(37:03) An argument for free speech…(38:22) Performance enhancement through technology…(45:30) What does “Go Be More” mean to you?If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Bruin legend Willie Banks and Olympic high jumper Jamie Nieto.Recorded February 19, 2021.References:Leta Andrews (Amy's basketball coach) - WikipediaiAnalyze (iPhone app) - App StoreGuests:Amy Acuff - WikipediaHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | FacebookGo Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“The thing that was most important was how I approached it psychologically… And I didn't just kind of achieve those things. I blew them out of the water.”—Jon RankinWhen placed together, reflection and conversation have an uncanny way of bringing about clarity and NEW lessons learned.After listening to Jon and Bryan discuss goal-setting, you’ll be compelled to view your goal-setting strategies through a different filter.(2:30) The elephant in the room and skating competitions…(6:51) Two types of goals…(9:43) “Here's the fundamental thing that everybody needs to remember and understand if you're going to set a goal. The only reason to set a goal is to motivate you to achieve it.”(11:53) So what’s a norm-referenced goal versus a self-referenced goal?(13:20) Why do most people set norm-referenced goals?(15:32) Breaking free of mindsets can mean success…(17:19) Context versus comparing…(21:28) “The reality is the whole time what was really driving them was the self-referenced goals.”(22:42) There are positives to norm-referenced goals…(25:06) Turning the focus to self-referenced goals…(26:29) How self-referenced goals align with the phrase, “Go Be More…”(28:40) Bringing the two types together…(29:31) “Don’t compare your chapter one to someone else’s chapter ten.”(30:30) Jon’s 2005 explosion…(33:25) A secret to Jon’s success and a powerful statement from Scott Abbott…(35:46) “There's a common theme, which is the more you're focused on the self-referenced work, the more likely you are to achieve the norm-referenced success.”(38:25) Falling is part of the process and there’s value in the transferable aspect of self-referenced goals…(41:41) “If you’re consistent and you're doing the right things you create this really positive feedback loop, boom, and make a big leap.”If you liked this episode, check out our conversation with firefighter Jeff Nolet or our conversation about Bryan's book Make the Leap.Recorded February 12, 2021.References:Make the Leap - Website | Newsletter | Instagram | FacebookBryan's goals for Make the Leap - Make the Leap blogScott Abbott interview - GBM PodcastHosts:Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.coJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

Want to help us grow the show? Leave us a Rating and Review!“I think a lot of times people think, 'Oh, this guy was talented from the beginning. He was crushing and dominating from the very beginning.' And that's not true. You know, it takes time to be great, no matter what you do in sport, business, life. Whatever it is you're doing, it takes time. So, you know...you can still make it, even though you're not the best right off the bat.”—Jamie NietoAthletes often speak about the power of mindset. But Jamie takes it to a “higher” level as he shares the painstaking journey to become an Olympic high jumper and the miraculous recovery he has been fighting for over the last five years.(2:59) A plan to become a better basketball player uncovers a passion for jumping.(5:26) Getting a little better each year…(7:11) Cal Berkeley or Eastern Michigan...(11:15) The wake-up call of being an “average fish…”(14:14) Highlights, milestones, and validations…(17:27) The hurdles of training for Olympic teams…(26:37) “I missed my first attempt and then on the second attempt, glide over it, bar wobbling, but it stayed on. And I took off my shirt and ran into the crowd…”(30:51) Despite the “ups and downs,” the up times make it all worth it…(34:08) The accident of 2016…(37:07) Receiving 30% odds of making a full recovery, and making a promise to walk down the aisle…(39:36) Jamie’s remarkable wife…(42:14) The long daily grind of rehab…(46:14) “We just don't give the mental part of getting ourselves to do the physical thing enough credit…” Jon talks about mindset.(48:48) The power of visualizing…(55:42) A twist on a Les Brown quote…(59:05) What does Go Be More mean to you?If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Olympic triple jumper Willie Banks and Boxer/Kidney Disease Survivor Marc Coronel.Recorded December 16, 2020.References:Jamie Nieto Clears 7'6" at the 2012 London Olympics - YouTubeToday: Paralyzed Former High Jumper Jamie Nieto Walks His Wife Down the Aisle - YouTubeShevon Nieto on America's Got Talent - YouTubeThrough the Good and the Bad (Official Video) - YouTubeGuests:Jamie Nieto - homepage, InstagramHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.comJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“A leap... is something that you can build systematically into your improvement cycle and your expectations.”—Bryan GreenIn a results-focused world, we can sometimes lose sight of the powerful processes that impact our goals, and shape who we become along the way.If you’ve ever wanted to get better at, well, anything...you’ll love this conversation about Bryan’s recently published book, Make the Leap: Think Better, Train Better, Run FasterFrom feedback loops to the concepts of engagement, hidden training programs, and everything in-between, Bryan and Jon go into several of the strategies that, when applied, can improve the journey of anyone striving to Go Be More.(2:08) Finding value and feeling the impact of social media efforts…(7:34) Achieving a milestone and the meaning of “Make the Leap”…(10:29) Jon’s personal leap…(14:46) “...it all starts in our heads.” The truths behind the subtitle “Think Better, Train Better, Run Faster”(17:14) How a Learning Theory class changed an approach to running…(20:26) What was the motivation behind writing a book? And what was the experience like?(24:40) Making the shift from finishing the book to selling the book… and where was the actual starting line? (A peek into one of Bryan’s leaps.)(29:00) Feedback loops, leap cycles, optimal training principles, and many other aspects to thinking more productively…(34:37) Why feedback loops generate leaps…(37:22) Applying quality, recovery, and consistency to feedback loops—Jon’s experience.(43:32) The leaps may be similar but the details are different.(44:20) What’s a leap cycle?(46:36) “But I don't think that this is necessarily applicable solely to running, even though it's extremely helpful for anybody that's trying to improve as a runner.”(48:46) The impact of feedback loops on social media…(50:36) Comparing next steps and North Star goals…(53:58) Action steps to getting the most from the book…If you liked this episode, check out our conversations with UCLA coach Bob Larsen and runner/author Matt Fitzgerald.Recorded January 22, 2021.References:Buy the Book! - maketheleapbook.comThe Three Most Important Words for Understanding Feedback Loops - Make the Leap BlogScott Abbott interview - GBM PodcastHosts:Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.coJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

Want to help us grow the show? Leave us a Rating and Review!“Because of that level of commitment, to at least one aspect of the business, it made it so much easier to commit to other aspects of the business, even if it was just chipping away at it piece by piece.” —Jon Rankin2020 may well go down as the year that everything changed. But not all change is negative. It’s often in these challenging times that you can grow the most.In this episode, Jon and Bryan take an honest look back at this year and how it impacted the Go Be More brand. They share the lessons learned, and they lay out the plans and dreams for 2021.Whether you’re a die-hard Go Be More fan, a new visitor, or an aspiring entrepreneur, you’ll love the gold-nuggets of wisdom found within this candid reflection and conversation.(2:15) Holiday chat and productivity talk, what’s been going on in the last month…(6:18) Looking back at 2020 and determining the “Why” behind Go Be More…(9:10) “One of the things that are so important is the environment you create around yourself and the small nudges that keep you going in the direction you want to go.”(10:48) The vehicle of clothing…(14:04) The initial challenges of starting a business…(17:01) Something that made a difference…(19:18) The critical nature of having the right team…(25:40) “We had always wanted to do a podcast, but we decided to invest in it. And it did a number of things for us. One, it gave us something we could really build on.”(30:05) A second thing to build a business on…(34:39) Finding the commitment to build a brand, purpose, and message…(39:17) The three things, advice for fellow entrepreneurs…(45:16) “Whatever you're trying to do, don't pretend to be the expert.”(47:03) Wisdom from a mom…(49:38) Plans for 2021, making the leap, and doing the consistent work that lead to rapid growth in the future…If you liked this episode, check out our conversations about prioritizing and pivoting or about our podcast lessons learned after 20 episodes.Recorded January 20, 2021.References:Make the Leap: Think Better, Train Better, Run Faster - websiteScott Abbott interview - GBM PodcastHosts:Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.coJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing

“I don't believe we'll ever recognize our need for the light until we've seen the depth of the darkness.”—Kirk KellerhalsKirk Kellerhals experienced a “full-circle” moment when a woman in an email said she thought he was her son. After living 50-years with a missing piece to his identity-puzzle, Kirk received the gift of learning about his biological roots. Here he shares how running and faith pulled him through dark times and how a documentary is his way of paying the “gift” forward to Vietnam vets and adoptees.(2:43) Eight-thousand miles away, in 1969, a boy was born. Kirk tells about his early days.(5:24) Standing out like a “sore thumb…”(8:52) Playing sports, marching in the band, and staying out of trouble…(11:09) Enrolled in the East Texas police academy…(12:05) A “front-row seat” to a real protest in front of the White House…(16:46) How the word “dehumanizing” applies to both sides of the conflict.(18:49) Jon takes advantage of an opportunity to show compassion and support.(22:42) We all have chances to escalate or de-escalate moments.(24:35) “What I say to people is not nearly as important as how I make them feel.”(25:59) From hating running to loving it, Kirk shares his transformation and how it led to meeting Jon.(34:03) Witness Through Fitness, building community with running and faith…(37:57) An incredible story of discovering his roots…(40:43) A life-changing email…(46:02) “It didn't take long to realize that this is my mother. I'm like, Holy moly. She's been looking for me for my 48 years. And...I'm talking to her.”(50:19) The immediate bond with my mother, father, and siblings…(52:05) Taking a lot less for granted…(53:42) Dark places leading to purpose—photojournalism, documentaries, and sharing blessings…(58:03) “Well, it's definitely a work in progress. And one of the things I'm finding, especially about a documentary that's as in-depth as this one, is it's very fluid.”(1:02:20) What’s the impact you want the documentary to have?(1:05:36) Putting the pieces together for Vietnam veterans…(1:09:42) “We have always, our entire lives, had that stigma. That negative stigma, that Vietnam War hanging over our heads. I call it the Pigpen Syndrome.”(1:13:40) What does Go Be More mean to you?(1:17:12) “The Vietnam War was not all negative. There was a lot of good that came out of it.”If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Podcaster Joe Fier and entrepreneur Ron Sarmiento.And, you can now get these show notes sent directly to your email. Sign up here!Recorded September 14, 2020.References:Sacred Heart Film - FacebookSEACoast2Coast Foundation - FacebookGuest:Kirk Kellerhals - InstagramHosts:Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, Make the Leap bookJon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be MoreLinks:Go Be More websiteGo Be More YouTube ChannelProduction and EditingCreatives Collective Marketing