The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast

Forrest Kelly

The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast is a weekly podcast by Forrest Kelly exploring wineries around the world. We take 5 minutes and give you wine conversation starters and travel destinations. In addition, you'll hear candid interviews from those shaping the wine field. Join us as we become inspired by their search for extraordinary wine and wineries. WELP Magazine recognized the podcast as one of the best Travel Podcasts of 2021.

Montezuma Winery - Seneca Falls, NY Pt. 2
Feb 28 2022
Montezuma Winery - Seneca Falls, NY Pt. 2
Welcome, welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly, from the seed to the glass wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike. Let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is we continue our conversation with Phil Plummer of Montezuma Winery in Seneca Falls, New York. The last time we talked Phil, you were talking about texture. Could you explain that to me? So I think for me, I'll contextualize it around what we do here a lot. We're in a cooler climate region, so we're not going to have the big like hit you over the head tannins that you would get in a warm climate. But I think we also have this really super bright acid that we get in our wines here. And sometimes the texture is how you balance that. So I'm really interested in things where I can add weight without adding sweetness. Probably the clearest way that I've ever heard it analogized it is. It's like milk, right? So you have your lighter-bodied wines or like skim milk where they're not really mouth coating, they're just kind of here and gone. Whereas you're fuller-bodied wines are getting out to that whole milk territory where there's a little bit more something to chew on. There's room for both skim milk and whole milk, and it's just about figuring out what's right for the product you're making at the time. As the head winemaker, I'm sure you have a vast list of responsibilities that you have to do, but out of those, what do you consider to be the most valuable? You probably don't want really full-bodied cabernet in the middle of summer, but a really light-bodied zippy riesling is going to be perfect. I think every wine has its own parameters, and that's really the job of the winemaker is to figure out where the wine wants to be. For me was a pivotal point in my career when I stopped trying to make the wines that I wanted to make and started listening to the wines and trying to make them the way they wanted to be. And I can imagine that having that epiphany has opened up some other opportunities for you. What do you think? Are you most proud of the winery that you've done? I've done a lot of really cool Nats, and now we have a traditional method program that we've been adding to as we go. So those have been really rewarding for me to see that this is something that I've taken as my own little personal bailiwick. And just to see that other people are into it too is always cool. In doing research for getting ready to talk to you. I was kind of surprised that I found that New York is third in the states with the highest wine production and surprising that the Finger Lakes region in New York has well over one hundred wineries in just that one area. So it's a great story. I mean, we were like the original American wine region. If you're familiar with the bonding system on wineries. So every winery in the U.S. that's legal. You have to file a bond with the federal government and you get a bond. No, that's associated with your permit. So like here, our bond number is 896, which means we're the 896th winery in the U.S. Bonded Winery #1 is here in the Finger Lakes and it's at the south end of Kuka Lake and Hammonds Port, and that was the original home of Great Western and Gold Seal. They called it Champagne back then. You can't call it champagne anymore, and that's really where things started. And it was this big production facility and you had this whole industry that grew up with growers that their whole game was that they were growing for Taylor, Great Western Gold seal that facility. Then, in the middle of the 20th century, the Taylor family sold that property to Coca-Cola, and Coca-Cola came in and broke all those contracts. You suddenly have a production facility that's trucking in and by railcars, bringing in cheaper juice and bulk wine from the West Coast and this whole industry of grape growing families that have nowhere to...
Montezuma Winery - Seneca Falls, NY Pt. 1
Feb 21 2022
Montezuma Winery - Seneca Falls, NY Pt. 1
Our featured winery is: In this episode, we head to the town that hosted the first women's rights convention in 1848. It's also believed to be the inspiration for Bedford Falls, Mary, my wife Clarence, Merry Christmas everybody. Yes, the movie, It's A Wonderful Life, it's (Seneca Falls, New York), home to Montezuma Winery. Hi, this is Phil Plummer. I'm the head winemaker for the (Martin Family, Wineries Montezuma Winery). Under The Martin family, wineries and distilleries. You have Montezuma Winery, (Old Forge), (IDOL Ridge Winery), (Alder Creek Distillery), and (Hidden Marsh Distillery). We're going to focus on Montezuma Winery since you are the head winemaker, Phil. Let's get a little background on yourself. I'm originally from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, but I came to Rochester, New York, to go to college. I went to RIT and I was there for this really like specialized science computer science program, and I got a couple of years deep into that and came to the realization that I was headed for a life where I was going to be buried at a lab bench or behind a computer screen, and that terrified me through the hospitality school at RIT, I'd been taking wine tasting classes, so I decided to start making wine and beer in my college apartment, which was probably not within the letter of the law at the time, but I really fell in love with production. I like making things, and I always felt like maybe wine would be what I did if I won the Powerball someday. Your Host: (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood’s biggest celebrities from (Shania Twain) to (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - - (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.
IG Winery - Cedar City, UT Pt. 4
Feb 14 2022
IG Winery - Cedar City, UT Pt. 4
Welcome, welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly, from the seed to the glass wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike, let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is we continue our conversation with Doug McCombs of IG Winery now on our last episode, you touched on some festivals. Let's dive deeper into all of the festivals that you're offering this year. We are what we call popcorn and wine pairings, so we have a wine professional out of Salt Lake who comes down and does a really fun pairing of different flavored popcorns with different wines from around the state. They're all again. All the wines featured at the event are Utah-produced wines. Then we do a farm to fork dinner, which we go out to a local farm and they put a big long table out for about a hundred people served family-style, all kinds of fresh food right off the farm, and we pair it up with a lot of different Utah wines. We do something called Epicurean on the edge, which is only about 30 people. But you drive out to a remote mountain's edge, sort of looking into Zion National Park and they put out a huge spread there. And there's the local chef that does all this remote cooking, and he puts an amazing meal out for everybody and again, all paired with Utah wines. We have what we call the grand dinner on Center Street, and we put a table the length of the street. And again, we have some local chefs who put together some fabulous food. We do a picnic in the vineyard, there's a vineyard in St. George. We host about 50 people. They can walk out in the vineyard. We have some stations out there where we're pouring wine that was actually grown right there in the row. They're standing in and produced from the grapes they're looking at. And so it's kind of fun to say, you know, you're standing here in the Tempranillo, and if you look to your left or right, you'll see the grapes and this is what we produced back in 2018 or something like that, you know, that's a lot of fun. Now these events, what are the costs? Because I imagine they sell out pretty quickly. Speaker2: They do. They usually sell out in about a month. We start sales in July on July 1st and usually by the end of the year. Toward the end of July, it's pretty much sold out. Tickets run anywhere from forty-five dollars to 120.00, depending on the event. Not only do you host these large events, but you host events like what I've got around my house with my wife and I have gone to many of them and there are paintings all over our walls at home, paint night. Yeah, we do a lot of paint nights during the winter when things are a little quieter. It's a good way to get people to come out and have some fun and enjoy some wine. Looking back at all that you've created, what do you think was your biggest attribute of perseverance? Yeah, this is our ten-year anniversary this year for IG Winery. The first two or three years were very tough. We just pushed through it and kept reinvesting in the business. We were not just building a business, we were building an industry where it never existed in the past. And so it just keeps pushing, keep pushing, be creative and how we market, just be as open and inviting as we possibly can with others who are looking to get into the business and encouraging and mentoring. And I try to do everything I can to put my arm around those who are going to ultimately become our competitors in an effort to really try to build our industry. And I think that's what works for us. Was there a point when that perseverance you could feel paid off and thought, OK, we've got something here? It was about the five-year mark when we moved out of the little space behind the B and B and moved into our current facility. We went up to almost 6000 square feet, and so all of a sudden we had lots of room to work and we had a beautiful tasting room and we had the...
IG Winery - Cedar City, UT Pt. 3
Feb 7 2022
IG Winery - Cedar City, UT Pt. 3
Welcome, welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly, from the seed to the glass wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike. Let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is in our last conversation, Doug. We ran out of time, so you couldn't explain Cocktail Lounge. What's that about it at IG Winery? The history on that was that we have a lot of locals who come in and do tastings, and they began coming in and saying, Look, you know, I've done plenty of tastings. Can I just have a glass of wine and sit and enjoy the tasting room and hang out with my friends? And of course, under Utah law, we can't just pour a glass of wine as a winery. However, if we acquired a bar license, we could pour you a glass of our wine and let you sit and enjoy it. So we did that. We went out and got the bar license. And but under Utah law, if you have a bar license, you have to also pour some cocktails under that license agreement. So we made up a few cocktails. And so from five p.m. to 10 p.m., you can come in if you don't want to do a tasting, you can come in and have a nice handcrafted cocktail or a glass of wine and enjoy the winery that way. Yes, looking at your menu, I see your handcrafted cocktails, your Maple Manhattan, The Arrogant Bastard, The Starter Wife, Caitie's Hard Iced Tea, Sweet Apple Spice, the IG-Tini, the wine tasting experience. Can you explain that? Well, we will do a tasting. We typically do five different wines as part of your tasting. If you're the type that likes to sit and have an explanation, we like to walk everyone through an explanation of each wine where it's from, how we made it, what the unique taste you know, components are of that particular wine and just, you know, take our time. So a tasting could take about an hour. On the other hand, if you're the kind of person that really just wants to have your wine and be left alone, it can go a lot quicker than that. So you moved into your new facility and you've got the cocktail lounge. And who's designing that you? I did. Yes, you did. All right. Yeah, yeah, it's been good. We used a lot of the old building materials that were there before we remodeled the building, so we gave it kind of a rustic-chic feel. It's a very inviting place and people enjoy the vibe a lot. I can tell just from our short conversation that you're very ambitious. You've started this winery with no previous winery experience and now you've moved into a brand new, beautiful facility. You've designed this cocktail lounge. I've got a feeling that you've got your fingers in something else as well. And then we just recently created the Utah Wine Trail, which will open in the spring of this year. And that'll be you've seen. I know these trails around, you know, different states where you, you follow the map and go to each one and get your card punched or something like that. And when you visited all the wineries, you get a little gift, and it's obviously designed to encourage everybody to get out, hit all the different wineries. And so we're starting that this year as well. So we're excited to see the growth and what the future has. Quite a little wine legacy here in Utah. Well, we're trying. That was our goal when we started out and think, thank heaven. We've seen some success with that, you know, to that point when we started. As I told you, we were the only ones in town as of today. Now there are six wineries in southern Utah that have grown up since we started this 10 years ago. So we've been kind of the trailblazer, if you will, for everybody else who's come along afterward, and that's by design. We wanted to see this area become a tourist. You know, wine begin to be able to promote wine tourism. So there have been several additional vineyards planted now. And like I said, six wineries are now open in the southern Utah area. We being IG Winery, in this case,
IG Winery - Cedar City, UT Pt. 2
Jan 31 2022
IG Winery - Cedar City, UT Pt. 2
Welcome, welcome to The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly. From the seed to the glass, wine has a past. Our aim at The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike. Let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is: We continue our interview with Doug McCombs, founder, and winemaker of IG Winery. Since you didn't come from a winemaking background, getting started had to be difficult. Yeah, when we started in Cedar City, there was like I said, there were no wineries in southern Utah at all. So we came in and actually had to work with the city to help them develop zoning ordinances that would allow for a winery. We actually wrote those for the city and submitted them and the city passed them and got them through and created the zoning and the ordinances that we needed to allow for us. Then we opened our doors. We were just in a little, The whole thing was twelve hundred square feet. That was the tasting room, the storage area, the winery, the production area, everything. And it was just a small little building with a couple of tanks and a few barrels, and we started buying both bulk wine and grapes to make our wines and just begins the long, slow process of building a clientele in a market that there was no wine culture if you will, but there was really no, no real understanding of what wineries were all about. And so we had to educate the community and just begin that process. Since you were kind of trailblazing the wine industry in Utah, were you met with some resistance as people have their own preconceived ideas about wine? But then there are some who will say, well, it's just another versi This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - - (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.