In Episode 20 of the "South Phoenix Oral History Project," hosts Summer and Ele delve into the western borders of South Phoenix. With a spotlight on the gray area, the hosts navigate through survey responses to understand the diverse perspectives that define this contentious boundary.

Join Summer and Ele as they explore disagreements among respondents regarding the inclusion of areas like Laveen within South Phoenix. Why do opinions vary so widely? What factors contribute to the uncertainty surrounding the western borders?

Season 3 music is provided by Susanna Velarde Covarrubias.