We Love Ugly Data! The Deep Analysis Podcast

Alan Pelz-Sharpe

This irregular podcast series examines what is happening in the unstructured data automation market. Three topics - Thirty Minutes, that's the format!

Topics range from the state of Blockchain, IDP, ECM, and the impact of AI on unstructured data. Deep Analysis provides advisory services, industry research, and M&A guidance.

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We Love Ugly Data! - The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 9 - November 2023
Nov 27 2023
We Love Ugly Data! - The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 9 - November 2023
The ninth episode of the podcast we now know and love as “We Love Ugly Data!” is out; available everywhere you get your podcasts from and, of course, in video form via YouTube (which we’ve embedded below). As always, it’s three topics in 30 minutes. Matt is chatting with Alan this time; skip to the topics you’re most interested in, or maybe sit back and enjoy the whole thing. Show notes are, as usual, included below the embedded video.In this episode,Topic 1: SharePoint Premium?In a pod that is quite Redmond-heavy, Alan’s been out and about at a few Microsoft events and gives us the details about SharePoint Premium, what it is, where it came from, and what it means for customers and partners going forward. We’ve been following this particular story for a few years….Topic 2: Copilots! Everywhere!Doing their best to sidestep the ongoing shenanigans at OpenAI, Matt and Alan discuss the army of Copilots – and related tools – that Microsoft announced at their recent Ignite conference and what that means in the real work contexts that will define their ultimate success (basically, are they useful).Topic 3: Citizen Developers?As promised a few episodes ago, Matt and Alan are back with some of the results from the “Citizen Developers” survey they asked for help on a few months back. Here they discuss a couple of interesting findings, focusing on governance. Oh, and despite what they suggest here, you’re allowed to listen even if you didn’t contribute to the survey; we’re not that mean.Show notes for Series 2, Episode 9.Topic 1: SharePoint Premium?Alan’s blog post explains everything about SharePoint Premium.Alan’s other blog post is about the Microsoft Ignite in general.Oh, and in case you missed it, here’s Alan’s other recent Microsoft conference blog, this time about Power Platform.Topic 2: Copilots! Everywhere!What are our feelings about the going on with the leadership of OpenAI and whether you should care?Here, Matt talks about the need to focus on the real and useful with AI and ignore the noise elsewhere.Support the show
We Love Ugly Data! - The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 8 - October 2023
Oct 27 2023
We Love Ugly Data! - The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 8 - October 2023
The eighth episode of the podcast we now know and love as "We Love Ugly Data!" is out; available everywhere you get your podcasts from and, of course, in video form via YouTube (which we've embedded below). As ever, it's three topics in 30 minutes; Matt and Dan are in the chairs this time; skip to the topics you're most interested in, or maybe sit back and enjoy the whole thing. Show notes are, as ever, included below the embedded video.In this episode,Topic 1: Dan, is generative AI hype or hero for IDP?Using some visual aids that he borrowed from Kofax, Dan talks through the impact that generative AI has on IDP, both now and in the future. In the process, the subject turns to whether IDP could be the first real-world application of generative AI that earns its keep in the enterprise.Topic 2: Check the meter; here comes winter!It's starting to get cold and wet in the UK (yes, we can hear your "so what's new?" comments, and we're choosing to ignore them), and Matt has noticed the impact on his smart meter. At the same time, he wonders whether organizations realize too that soon their generative AI tools will hit the meters and wants to remind them to build that into their planning. There's also a brief but entirely justified bit of competition bashing.Topic 3: Dan, why do people continue to underestimate the EU?Dan has been speaking to a whole bunch of IDP vendors in the EU and has concluded that developing their product in the region has resulted in some interesting and innovative outcomes that are symptomatic of building there. He and Matt discuss what those EU-specific circumstances might be. Matt's blog post/analyst note: "Here Comes The Meter Man – A Lesson in GenAI Planning."The WSJ article (paywall, subscription required) discussed - among other things - the costs of Microsoft Copilot.Information Week and their coverage of Forrester Research's CEO's recent comments at one of their conferences.Support the show
We Love Ugly Data! - The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 7 - September 2023
Sep 22 2023
We Love Ugly Data! - The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 7 - September 2023
The seventh episode of the podcast we now know and love as "We Love Ugly Data!" is out; Matt and Alan are in the chairs this time; skip to the topics you're most interested in, or maybe sit back and enjoy the whole thing. Come on, it's only 30 minutes and you deserve a break.The (magnificent) seventh episode of the podcast we now know and love as “We Love Ugly Data!” is out; available everywhere you get your podcasts from and, of course, in video form via YouTube (which we’ve embedded below). As ever, it’s three topics in 30 minutes; Matt and Alan are in the chairs this time; skip to the topics you’re most interested in, or maybe sit back and enjoy the whole thing? Come on, it’s only 30 minutes, and you deserve a break. Show notes are as ever, included below the embedded video.In this episode,Topic 1: AI & Supply ChainIn a segment that we could easily have called “Where In The World Has Alan Been?” (if we’d not done that several times before), Alan’s been speaking at Parcel Forum in Nashville, and even though 10 minutes isn’t anywhere near enough time to distill the entire keynote into a podcast, here he and Matt discuss some of the key elements of that presentation.Topic 2: Citizen Developer SurveyDeep Analysis is currently running an industry survey around current trends, adoption, and attitudes toward “Citizen Development,” and here Matt and Alan discuss why we’re doing it, why you should contribute, and some of the positive (and negative) rationales behind using this technology.Topic 3: Stop Personifying AI!Matt’s written a (slightly angry) blog post in the wake of Salesforce’s recent “Dreamforce” conference about how we should all be really careful about the language we use to describe AI, not ascribe human qualities to it (like intent) and certainly not use imagined power as a way to sell defensive features in your software. But you’d never do that, now, would you?Show notes for Series 2, Episode 6.Topic 1: AI & Supply ChainParcel ForumTopic 2: Citizen Developer SurveyYou can contribute to the Citizen Developer survey here (and your contribution will be gratefully received). As mentioned in the pod, we will be sharing the results and analysis once the survey has been concluded.Topic 3: Stop Personifying AIMatt’s recent blog “AI, building trust and selling defense.”They also mentioned a previous blog post “AI, regulation and the predictions of doom”.An introduction to the concept of “The Chinese Room” (with associated criticism).The very excellent Javvad Malik (with links to all his posts, videos etc.) can be found here.Support the show
We Love Ugly Data! The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 6 July 23
Aug 15 2023
We Love Ugly Data! The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 6 July 23
The sixth episode of the second season of the Deep Analysis podcasts went live this week; the 4 Waves of IDP, how AI products are creating a lot of head scratching on data residency, and why can't we call everything "content"?The sixth episode of the podcast we now know and love as “We Love Ugly Data!” is out; available everywhere you get your podcasts from and, of course, in video form via YouTube (which we’ve embedded below). As ever, it’s 3 topics in 30 minutes; Matt and Alan are in the chairs this time; skip to the topics you’re most interested in, or maybe sit back and enjoy the whole thing? Come on, it’s only 30 minutes, and you deserve a break. Show notes are, as ever, included below.In this episode;Topic 1: 5 (more) Vendors to WatchWe’ve recently added 5 more Vendor Vignettes to the website for subscribers to digest, but for everyone else here, Alan and Matt do a rapid-fire summary of each (you can read it more leisurely here).Topic 2: Here comes trouble?Alan recently wrote a blog post (the device that we until recently called an “analyst note”, before we reverted to blog for the sake of simplicity) called “Industry Consolidation is Coming.” Here he and Matt discuss some of the financial and operational challenges that start-ups are facing and 4 important lessons that they should heed.Topic 3: AI Citizen DevelopersAnother topic concerns a recent blog post, this time written by Matt, about how Generative AI, vendor LLMs, and No Code. Our pair discusses why vendors would be focusing their energy here, what it means for Low and No Code platforms and….. where are all the citizen developers?Support the show
We Love Ugly Data! The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 5 July 23
Jul 11 2023
We Love Ugly Data! The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 5 July 23
The show notes for this episode are available below if you want to follow the conversation. As ever, it's three topics in 30 minutes, this time with Matt and Dan; skip to the topics you're most interested in, or maybe sit back and enjoy the whole thing with a beverage of your choice.Topic 1: What are the “4 Waves of IDP”?Dan recently posted an Analyst Note entitled "The Fourth Wave of IDP is Here," and here he talks Matt through those 4 waves, from the original OCR of the 1960s and Forms and Templates of the 1980s and 1990s, through Machine Learning to the LLMs (or GPTs if you prefer) that have dominated release cycles this year.Topic 2: LLMs, grounding, and data residencyMatt wonders whether, among the plethora of big announcements around AI from the largest software vendors, some of the biggest challenges faced in their implementation have been overlooked in much of the commentary? Using examples from Microsoft and Salesforce (both have talked and published extensively on the subject), Matt points out that using your own data to help "ground" requests being sent to LLMs like OpenAI's GPTs creates a series of challenges around data residency regional legal frameworks and plain "my brain hurts thinking about it" allied issues.Topic 3: Documents, content, files, records, semi-structured or unstructured data: do labels matter anymore?Dan discusses his recent Analyst Note, "Documents, content, files, records, semi-structured or unstructured data: do labels really matter anymore?" and ponders why we call things the names we do. Matt wonders whether it's actually all the fault of Industry Analysts in the first place.Support the show
We Love Ugly Data! The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 4 June 23
Jun 12 2023
We Love Ugly Data! The Deep Analysis Podcast - Episode 4 June 23
The show notes for this episode are available below if you want to follow the conversation. As ever, it's three topics in 30 minutes, this time with Matt and Alan; skip to the topics you're most interested in, or maybe sit back and enjoy the whole thing with an iced beverage of your choice (it's a little hot right now, treat yourself?In this episode;Topic 1: Research UpdatesA new set of Vendor Vignettes was recently added to the site - for Skan, Botminds, Hyperscience and IPwe. Matt and Alan discuss the relative significance of each in their respective markets and remind us that these will be the last published for all to read for free (future VVs will be for Deep Analysis subscribers only).Topic 2: Missing Miners?Now he's back on terra firms after his travels, Alan ponders the act that so few of the people he'd met had any knowledge of Task or Process Mining.  Having written an Analyst Note on the subject, He and Matt discuss whether this confirms the projections in the "Work Intelligence Market Analysis" and how RPA vendors are changing their go-to-market strategy - as Alan previously noted with UiPath - plays into their hands?Topic 3: Yes, More AIAs it currently appears to be international law, Matt and Alan discuss the last few weeks in AI and unstructured data. Matt published an Analyst Note imploring people not to listen to the "end of the world" AI doom grifters, and the pair discuss how best to try and be cool and circumspect in your planning for the subject while the world around shouts very loudly.Support the show