CJ Liu interview Pastor Jason Micheli author of Living in Sin: Making Marriage Work between I Do and Death. What is the process that Pastor Jason uses to ensure a couple lives happy ever after? His approach is to focus on the actual vows rather than sentiment. He stresses the importance of examining each person's commitment when things get rough. He also shares the importance of shared values, a shared understanding of what happens when things go sideways, and communicating effectively.

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