Unrefined Podcast.com

Brandon Spain & Lindsy Waters

What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure. read less

Episode 18- How Finished Is It ?
2d ago
Episode 18- How Finished Is It ?
Brandon and Lindsy have a conversation with Steve Harmon about the finished work of Christ and how it is misunderstood. Steve argued that there are two camps when it comes to this theology: the grace camp, and the healing camp.  Steve believes that a balanced approach to the finished works is needed. He believes that Jesus provided a way for all of us to come to the Father and that it is both believing and changing our thinking that will help us access that grace. The conversation is about different types of Christian beliefs, specifically between the finished works mindset and the tools to help free people and change the world mindset. steveharmon.orghttps://www.facebook.com/steve.p.harmonhttps://www.facebook.com/unrefinedpodcastOUR MEMBERSHIP->https://unrefinedpodcast.com/membership Timestamps0:00:07Exploring the Finished Work of Christ with Steve Harmon0:03:46Finished Works Mindset and Its Impact on Faith0:06:06Discussion on Faith Without Works is Dead0:07:36Legalism and Receiving God's Love0:09:40Role of Works in Justification0:11:23Conversation on Grace and Salvation0:13:26Discussion on the Importance of Maturing as a Christian0:17:53The Effects of Doing Nothing and Healing Through Faith0:19:34Difference Between Mind Renewal and Believing for Healing0:21:46Exploring the Role of Inner Healing 0:23:34The Need for Inner Healing and Deliverance0:28:08The Benefits of Healing and Deliverance According to Jesus0:30:03The False Sense of Security in Finished Works Theology0:32:25Discussion on Appropriating the Finished Works of Jesus for Healing0:37:05Conversation with Steve Harmon on Prayer and Spiritual Warfare0:39:05Exploring the Dynamics of the Spiritual Realm
Episode 17- Doppelgangers and Stranger Things
Mar 13 2023
Episode 17- Doppelgangers and Stranger Things
In this episode, hosts Brandon and Lindsy explore the mysterious world of doppelgangers. Doppelgangers, a German word meaning “double-walker”, have been around for centuries, popping up in many cultures and even in the Bible. While many people think of doppelgangers as an apparition or fantasy, some believe that they can be flesh and blood entities. Famous people, such as Abraham Lincoln and Catherine the Great of Russia, have been said to have doppelgangers. The hosts explain that they will be discussing various aspects of doppelgangers in the episode, such as the different types and what it means for people in different cultures. The conversation discusses the concept of spirit doubles, which is a German mythology term referring to malevolent apparitions. It is believed to be an omen of something bad to come. The conversation also fast-forwards to the modern day, where some people consider the idea of clones to be a possible explanation for spirit doubles. The topic of doppelgangers, which are human beings made without a God breathed spirit but inhabited by some sort of spirit, whether it be demonic or some other kind. This conversation brings up some interesting ideas about the phenomenon. https://unrefinedpodcast.com/membershipTimestamps0:00:06Phenomenon of Doppelgangers 0:04:04Exploring the Phenomenon of Spirit Doubles and Changelings0:05:52Discussion on Doppelgangers and the Uncanny Valley0:11:45Investigating the Phenomenon of Doppelgangers: A Discussion0:13:46Discussion on Born Again Christians and Astral Projection: Exploring the Gray Areas0:15:52Pauline: A Tragic Story of a Missing Child0:20:03The Foundling and the Dappleganger0:23:06Exploring Doppelgangers in Different Cultures and Religions0:25:36Discussion on Supernatural Phenomena and Cryptids0:29:32Discussion on Autoscopy, Heautoscopy and Astral Projection0:36:25Discussion on Supernatural Experiences and the Fear of the Unknown0:38:24Exploring the Supernatural: A Discussion on Angelic Encounters and Quantum Mechanics0:43:11The Science of the Spirit0:45:18Exploring Norse Doppelgangers and Shelley's Demagorgon0:47:43Doppelgangers and Sleep Paralysis0:50:08Exploring the Mysterious Phenomenon of Doppelgangers
Episode 16- Quantum Physics, West Memphis 3, Project Revelation
Mar 6 2023
Episode 16- Quantum Physics, West Memphis 3, Project Revelation
Mike Stibs joined Brandon and Lindsy on the Podcast to talk about his ministry, which combines media and other topics. Mike grew up in Los Angeles, and before his conversion to Christianity, played in a band which focused on aliens and other strange topics. After his conversion, Mike dedicated himself to serving God, and has been exploring different areas. The Bell Witch Project link -> https://youtu.be/-ltSr6wjmmsFind Mike on IG->https://www.instagram.com/projectrev444/Find Mike on FB->https://www.facebook.com/mike.stibs.1Find Mike on Tiktok-> @mikestibs4https://unrefinedpodcast.comOur NEW tiktok->@unrefinedpodcast.comTimestamps0:00:10Interview with Mike Stibs: Exploring the Fringe in Media & Ministry0:02:53Alien Encounter?0:04:46Exploring the Dimensions of Physics and Consciousness0:06:45Exploring the Supernatural: A Conversation on Ouija Boards and Dimensions0:11:33Exploring Quantum Mechanics and Prayer 0:15:54Exploring the Intersection of Spiritual and Scientific Laws0:18:06Investigating the West Memphis Three0:20:23Video Production Process0:24:26Conversation on the Value of Preaching God's Word in the Fringe Community0:26:42Exploring the Wheat and Tares Scenario in the Fringe Movement0:29:47Conversation on the Need for Vigilance and Spiritual Preparation0:32:55Discussion on Prioritizing God and Jesus in Content Creation0:34:30Discussion on the New Great Awakening and Strong Opinions Loosely Held0:36:42Exploring the Evolution of Storytelling and the Message of Jesus0:38:10Exploring the Fringe: Evangelism and UFOs0:43:11Confronting the Demonic Realm with the Gospel of the Kingdom0:44:43Hollywood and Entertainment Industry0:46:43Documentary Filmmaker0:51:05Supernatural Experience in Walmart0:55:13Miraculous Healing: How God Reached Down from Heaven to Touch a Young Man's Life
Episode 15- Mr. Crowley: How His Darkness Has Penetrated Our World
Feb 27 2023
Episode 15- Mr. Crowley: How His Darkness Has Penetrated Our World
Brandon Spain, the host of Unrefined Podcast, and co-host Lindsay Waters welcome investigative journalist and author William Ramsey to the show. They have a mutual friend from the Fringe Radio Network, Johnny McMahon, who sent his greetings. William is the host of one of the top 0.5% podcasts in the world and the conversation between the three of them is rooted in a Christian perspective. They start the conversation by discussing Aleister Crowley, a modern magician and artist who has attracted people in Hollywood.  The conversations then moves on to discussing occult practices, the supernatural and how they can be seen through a Christian lens. They discuss the dangers of such practices and the importance of understanding the spiritual realm. They close the conversation with William sharing why he believes it's important to continue to explore and research the topics he covers. The speaker was a fringe researcher who had lost faith in corporate media in the 90s. After 9/11, he was researching independently online and noticed the number 11 popping up everywhere. He then found out that eleven was a very important number in the Western Esoteric tradition, which led him to Aleister Crowley. He then realized that Crowley was writing things from 77 to 93 and 175, so he decided to research him further and learn more about magic and the occult. The conversation is about Aleister Crowley and how he is viewed as a cultural and historical figure. Crowley wrote a 500-page autobiography called Confessions which he called a hagiography, but it was the opposite as he divulged a lot of information about himself and his activities. The speaker then talks about how Crowley's ideas overlap with the New World Order and what happened on 9/11, which is still happening today. Crowley was an elitist and an occultist, and his ideas are being copied by those in power.  William introduces the book, Prophet of Evil, which is on its third edition. It is a biography of Crowley and covers his life, his ideas and beliefs, and the impact he had on the world. Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/william-ramsey-investigates/id1388815042?mt=2Website:www.williamramseyinvestigates.comVimeo documentaries:https://vimeo.com/williamramseyunrefinedpodcast.com Timestamps0:00:07Interview with Investigative Journalist and Author William Ramsey0:02:54Investigating Alastair Crowley: A Conversation with a Fringe Researcher0:05:02Exploring Crowley's Influence on the New World Order0:06:43Summary of Crowley's Early Life0:08:30Summary of Crowley's Life and Occult Studies0:11:16Analysis of Crowley’s Involvement in World War I and II0:13:31Summary of Aleister Crowley's Life and Influence on Modern Occultism0:15:41Exploring the Significance of the Number Eleven in Esoteric Traditions0:17:10Exploring the Occult Connections /Stranger Things0:23:37The West Memphis Three: A Discussion on the Case and Its Future0:26:26Discussion on the West Memphis Three and the Order of the Nine Angles0:27:58Overview of the Order of Nine Angles (ONA)0:30:03Exploring the Ideology of the ONA and its Connection to Modern National Socialism0:31:46Exploring the Influence of ONA and Druidism on Pop Culture and Modern Society0:38:05Exploring the Occult: A Discussion on Far-Right Groups and Their Practices0:39:16Awareness of Radical Ethnically Influenced Groups Growing in Law Enforcement0:41:25Conversation on Socialism, Civil Rights, and the Smiley Face Killings0:43:22Interview with William Ramsay on the Smiley Face Killer Phenomenon0:49:42Conversation on QAnon0:54:24Analysis of the Q Phenomenon and its Impact on Followers
Episode 14- Primer on Symbolisms of the Occult in Media
Feb 20 2023
Episode 14- Primer on Symbolisms of the Occult in Media
Today we are talking with Amy from Eyes on the Right about her journey into researching the occult in contemporary culture. Amy grew up in Southern California and was always in ministry, working as a teacher for 22 years. On her second trip to Haiti she heard a lot of stories about the Clintons. This sparked her curiosity, and she began to research and investigate the occult in contemporary culture, including Hollywood. She has had a podcast (currently not published). She has a counseling ministry and an Instagram page, where she shares her findings. She encourages people to look into what they see in the media, so they can be aware of the predictive programming it presents. The conversation began with Amy talking about awakening to the reality of trafficking and how it was intertwined with Hollywood. Through surrendering to the Lord, Amy felt a push to uncover the dark undercurrents being pushed by the enemy that was behind the media and celebrities. She also suggests that if someone was looking to get started in understanding this kind of work, they should start with a biblical lens. The conversation between Amy and the hosts focuses on the spiritual agenda of Hollywood and its connection to mystery religions in Babylon, Egypt and other places. The conversation then turns to Operation Paperclip, which brought Nazi scientists to the United States under the guise of teaching Americans, despite the fact that they should have been charged for their crimes. Ultimately, the conversation explores the spiritual agenda of Hollywood and its connection to the occult.   www.biblicalguidancecounseling.comClick link for ->Amy's InstagramJoin Unrefined membershipTimestamps0:00:06Interview with Amy- Eyes on the Right: Exploring the Occult in Contemporary Culture0:03:06Unpacking the Undercurrent of Hollywood and Media0:05:14Uncovering the Occultic Agenda Behind Hollywood0:09:05"Exploring the Connections Between Nazi Scientists, NASA, and Hollywood"0:12:14Exploring the Occultic Influences of Laurel Canyon and Hollywood Celebrities0:18:01Conversation on Symbology and Hand Gestures in Popular Culture0:22:03The Use of Symbols and Rituals in Popular Culture0:26:11Exploring Predictive Programming and Disassociation Through Movies and Television0:28:42Conversation on Maintaining Balance While Investigating Occultic Thinking0:32:35Conversation on Bible Reading Plans 0:34:37Discussion on the Occult Symbolism of the "One Eye" Imagery0:38:06Discernment and Spiritual Maturity: A Conversation on the Red Shoe Club 0:41:53Discussion on the Significance of Red and Blue in Satanic Rituals0:44:47Exploring the Meaning of Red and Blue in Freemasonry and Mind Control Programming0:47:26Mind Control Programming and Its Impact on Society0:52:15Discernment and Symbols in the Counterculture Movement0:53:45Discussion on Symbols, Colors, and the Trans Agenda0:55:33Discernment and Supernatural Activity1:00:40Experiencing Spiritual Attacks: A Personal Story1:02:12Conversation with Christian Counselor1:07:38Christian Counseling and Psychological Theories
Episode 13- Restricted: Drugs and Access to the Spirit World
Feb 13 2023
Episode 13- Restricted: Drugs and Access to the Spirit World
In this episode, we interview guest Justin Brown of The Dig Bible Podcast.   Growing up in Tennessee, Justin was a regular churchgoer and had a deep fascination with the Bible. This guest speaker is a former rebel who had been leading a cool crowd of drug users in his early years. He recounts several experiences in which his friends had overdosed, become quadriplegic, or died in car wrecks, and wonders why he himself was able to walk away without a scratch every time. He wonders if it was due to divine protection, and reflects on how God must have been looking out for him despite his rebellious lifestyle.  Justin was able to get his life straightened out and met a godly woman who helped him become a better person. He discovered Trey Smith's videos on YouTube and Mike Heiser's books which reignited his love for the Word of God.  He also unveils his lucid dreams and encounters with the demonic.  Dive in to this “restricted” episode and discover more.https://thedigbiblepodcast.com/https://www.facebook.com/TheDig423https://unrefinedpodcast.comUnrefined Podcast on Facebook Timestamps0:00:05Interview with Justin Brown: Exploring Drug Use, Pharmacy, and Seeing in the Spirit World0:03:11Reflection on Divine Protection in the Face of Rebellion and Tragedy0:05:18How a Small Group Meeting Led to a Podcast0:07:20Conversation on Planting Kingdom Communities and Podcasting Career0:09:47Exploring the Use of Medicine in Mental Health Treatment0:15:10Conversation on Drug Use and ADHD: A Personal Account0:17:11Conversation on Denying the Existence of God and Lucid Dreaming0:23:57Encountering Lilith in a Lucid Dream0:26:04Conversation on Supernatural Experiences and the Effects of Medication0:28:28Exploring the Multi-Dimensional Realm: A Conversation on the Effects of Drugs and the Paranormal0:30:47Conversation on Dimensions, Adam and Eve, and Occultic Rituals0:32:44Exploring the Supernatural Realm Through Drug Abuse and Occult Knowledge0:37:44Conversation About Paranormal Activity Experienced by Wife0:40:05Possibility of Seeing into Other Dimensions with Drug Use0:42:22Conversation on the Dangers of Drug Use and the Power of a Firm Foundation0:49:07Conversation on the Supernatural and Miraculous: Exploring the Difference0:54:23Conversation on Miraculous and Supernatural Experiences
Episode 12- Insurgence, The Kingdom and 48 Laws of Spiritual Power
Feb 6 2023
Episode 12- Insurgence, The Kingdom and 48 Laws of Spiritual Power
In this episode of Unrefined Podcast, host Brandon Spain and co-host Lindsy Waters welcome guest Frank Viola, a conference speaker, blogger, and bestselling author who helps serious followers of Jesus know their Lord more deeply. The conversation focuses on the supernatural power and energy of God, and Frank explains the difference between the supernatural and the miraculous. Frank then shares his most supernatural experience with God, which involved a time when he was feeling overwhelmed and discouraged and God spoke to him and said, I will never leave you nor forsake you. The hosts engage with Frank asking questions about his career, his books, his blog, his life in walking with the Lord.  Frank also shares how his latest book, 48 Laws of Spiritual Power, was a good rebuke to him. frankviola.org- blog48laws.com – 48 Laws of Spiritual Powerfrankviola.info/podcast/ - the Christ is All podcasttheInsurgence.net – the Insurgence podcastClick here to Become a member!  Timestamps0:00:07Interview with Frank Viola: Exploring the Supernatural Power of God0:03:13Understanding the Difference Between the Supernatural and the Miraculous0:05:51Conversation on Miraculous Signs and Experiences0:10:36Miraculous Occurrences in the Body of Christ0:12:22Frank Viola: Exploring His Library of Books0:19:09Exploring the Radical Nature of Following Jesus Christ0:22:41Power of God and Bearing Fruit0:26:38Image of All-Encompassing Discipleship0:29:48Conversation on Living by the Indwelling Life of Christ0:32:08Importance of Spiritual Formation and the 48 Laws of Spiritual Power0:34:33Overcoming Discouragement in Ministry0:43:01Exploring the Misinterpretation of Pagan Christianity 0:48:45Defining Organic Church and the Glories of Christ0:51:05Industrial Church and Discipleship0:57:59Organic Church and Discipleship 1:02:11Insurgents Reclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Deeper Christian Life Network1:05:44Ministry Dream Team and Insurgent Experience Mastermind1:11:16Christ is All and Insurgents Podcasts
Episode 11- Spiritual Mapping/Prayer Strategies
Jan 30 2023
Episode 11- Spiritual Mapping/Prayer Strategies
Liz Adleta is our special guest on the Unrefined podcast and is here to talk about spiritual mapping and spiritual warfare. Liz has been involved in missions for 40 years. She is going to talk about how to use spiritual mapping and spiritual warfare in practical ways in our lives and how it can have an impact on our mission that God has put us on. She will also discuss how we can implement it individually and communally. Liz has been involved in short-term mission trips for 40 years and is still active in ministry today with her youngest daughter and son-in-law.  The primary focus of prayer strategists is to share Jesus and His love.  Liz has been involved in partnership facilitation, prayer training and mobilization, training and coaching church planters, and igniting movements to Christ. The speaker has seen small movements of disciples making disciples, and has explored the idea of spiritual mapping to understand why darkness lingers where it does.  Join us as we explore this fascinating topic!https://unrefinedpodcast.com https://prayerstrategists.net/Join in prayer around the Throne, around the clock, and around the world with Global Family 24-7 Prayer over Zoom: https://globalfamily24-7prayer.org/Pray daily using 52 scripture keys on movements to Christ for those with least access to the Gospel: https://www.disciplekeys.world/disciplekeys-pray/ Timestamps0:00:03Interview with Liz Adleta on Spiritual Mapping and Spiritual Warfare0:03:07Overview of 40 Years of Ministry Overseas with a Focus on Unreached People Groups and Igniting Movements to Christ0:05:24Conversation on Spiritual Mapping 0:07:28George Otis Jr.0:15:35Prayer Walking and Engaging with the Spiritual Realm0:19:08Exploring the Practical Side of Prayer Communing and Spiritual Mapping0:21:10Identifying Spiritual Strongholds in a Geographic 0:25:16Conversation on Spiritual Mapping and Biblical Support0:27:20Conversation on Prayer Walking and Spiritual Mapping0:33:01Training Church Planters: Practical Considerations for Spiritual Mapping0:35:12"The Wisdom of Obedience and Waiting on God"0:39:36Importance of Prayer Research and Spiritual Mapping for Teams0:41:57Gospel Outreach and the Power of Teamwork in Missionary Work0:43:52The Role of Prayer Strategists in Community and Teamwork0:47:18Mobilizing Spiritual Dynamics Through Prayer Coaching0:50:00The Importance of Extraordinary Prayer in Missionary Work0:52:22Coaching and Cities of Refuge 0:56:45Collaborative Kingdom Communities as a Place of Refuge in the Coming Storm0:58:59Sensing a Major Event: Prophetic Word on January 11th1:03:03Spiritual Prepping for the End Times1:05:15Conversation on Collaborative Kingdom Communities and Places of Refuge1:09:24Exploring the Role of Collaborative Kingdom Communities in Rapid Multiplication1:13:50Conversation on Building a Kingdom Community for the End Times1:23:57Exploring Keys to Establishing God's Kingdom
Episode 10- People Get Ready! Spiritual Prepping
Jan 23 2023
Episode 10- People Get Ready! Spiritual Prepping
This episode is a discussion of spiritual preparedness for what is coming.  Hosts Brandon and Lindsy bring up some interesting topics related to end times and share the how, when, where and why of prepping.  Subscribe-  https://unrefinedpodcast.com/silverTimestamps 00:01:15 Talking about Spiritual Prepping 00:02:02 What You Think About When Someone Says Prepping 00:02:32 Definition of Prepping 00:03:05 The Dynamic of Spiritual Prepping 00:03:34 Getting Ready For What's Coming 00:03:52 Personal Eschatology 00:04:27 In the World Today 00:05:14 Eschatology: Where the World is Headed Both Positively and Negatively. 00:05:32 Getting ready for Jesus is how I would sum it up. 00:06:19 Turmoil in the Roman Empire 00:07:07 Symbolic View 00:08:50 Divine Council Worldview 00:09:14 Matthew 25  00:09:26 Watching the World 00:09:39 Seems Like Where We are Headed 2030 Plan 00:10:11 Neil Cole- Rising Tides 00:11:21 The Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins 00:12:33 What Does This to Have to do with Prepping? 00:14:04 Want to Prepare 00:15:37 First Timothy 48 00:16:51 Spiritual Training for Personal Crises. 00:17:39 Theologically, We Sit in These End Times Right Now. 00:18:01 You Have to Be Ready  00:18:18 Characteristics of Preppers 00:22:29 Connection to the Divine 00:24:04 Being Ready for the Bridegroom 00:24:55 Paul’s Letters 00:27:08 The Giants and Days of Noah  00:28:40 Knowing the Lord 00:28:51 Hearing and Obeying His Voice 00:30:00 Relationship With the Lord For You 00:32:41 Hear the Lord's Voice 00:36:01 The Ultimate Price  00:37:03 The Magna Carta of Jesus  00:37:39 There's the Power and the Supernatural 00:38:40 Born Again 00:40:26 Need Eschatology of Hope 00:41:03 Fasting 00:41:12 Economic Turmoil Level 00:44:05 Supercharges  00:45:23 Media is Huge. 00:46:16 That's Gonna Drive People Crazy
Episode 9- Ministry on the Fringes & Journey with SRA
Jan 16 2023
Episode 9- Ministry on the Fringes & Journey with SRA
In this episode of the Unrefined Podcast we feature an interview with Steve Harmon, an amazing follower of Jesus who does ministry on the fringes.  We discover how he walks with the Lord to be the hands and feet in a lost and lonely world. His stories are inspiring and create a sense of urgency for those of us in discipleship to step out and be Jesus.Steve discusses how his main goal is to change the world, to have an effect in bringing the kingdom on this planet. He continues with his desire to train and equip people, grow them in the ability to heal the sick. “We have an army to fight the battle because there is a battle.”The host and guest talk about - What is the point of a miracle? Not just to heal people, but to prove to people that God is real.  If you have power behind it, then that solidifies or at least helps give much more evidence to the reality of God.Brandon asks Steve to talk about his journey doing ministry with SRA or Satanic ritual abuse (programming). Steve explains how the soul fractures through trauma. What happens when it comes to SRA is that the demonic takes those parts and then they imprison them. It makes it really hard to try to get that system to come to the other side.Steve discusses how the book of Job basically is a book that proves what all he’s saying is true. In Job when God says to Satan, ‘all he has is in your hands’, God’s just stating what the law says. God is the judge. Christians have taken that verse out of context so badly.Doing ministry is about building the kingdom. You can't just get caught up in the American dream lifestyle. We have responsibility, a commission to do the things that we need to do. https://www.steveharmon.org/https://www.facebook.com/steve.p.harmonhttps://unrefinedpodcast.comTimestamps00:01:34Steve’s Start into Ministry on the Fringes00:02:47Why Healing Seems to Happen 00:06:48Holy Spirit Will Put the Right Tool in your Hand00:07:14Doing Deliverance00:11:14Knowledge Based versus Obedience-based Christianity00:13:45 Big Sword but has very Little Armor On00:15:52 Transforming the Inside of You00:20:14 Demonic Knows the Power of What Happens00:22:10 Father, Son and Holy Bible00:24:02 Satanic Ritual Abuse Phenomenon00:24:50 What SRA is00:34:02 Book of Job00:39:02 What Goes on in the Spiritual World00:42:22 SRA are Like Power Sources for Witchcraft and the Demonic00:49:06 Differing Worldviews00:50:22 No More American Dream Lifestyle 00:51:06 Responsibility That We Have 00:52:09 Jesus Lived a Full on Lifestyle 00:52:55 If You Do Half of the Things Jesus Said 00:56:44  Journey With SRA Around the Country 01:06:51  Biggest Changes That I've Learned From All of This01:08:11 Discipling the Person at a Deep Level01:09:43SRA Victim Was a Christian and Went to Church01:15:39 Manchurian Candidate with Denzel01:16:49 Tried to Kill Me01:18:16 Second SRA Person on the Journey01:22:12 Witches Coming to Her Home01:25:34 Alien Human Spirits01:31:23 What Blood Establishes in Spiritual World
Episode 8- A Primer on Giants, Genesis 6 and Why This Even Matters
Jan 9 2023
Episode 8- A Primer on Giants, Genesis 6 and Why This Even Matters
In this episode, our guest Doug Van Dorn provides a primer, explaining what the Nephilim are, how they fit into the Genesis 6 narrative, and why this topic is important for Christians to understand. He also discusses how the Nephilim may have impacted the world today and why Christians need to be aware of their existence.  He also mentions that thinking about fantasy can help us better understand the history of the topic, which has been clouded by church history. The conversation discusses the importance of stories, and how they can change people's lives in ways that straight up theology cannot. The point is made that from Genesis to Revelation, the Bible is one big story, and that God wants us to learn from and use stories.  The hosts and guest discuss how the Bible can be interpreted to support the idea of a divine council, and how this can help to get men involved in spirituality and church. Dr. Heiser introduced the idea to Doug, who then did his own research and found an article on the subject. The article blew him away and he realized that he had actually read about the divine council before but it had never hit his consciousness. Discussion continues with the idea that humans were given dominion over the Earth by God, while the angels were given dominion over the heavenly realms. The conversation then goes on to discuss the idea that the temptation for Eve was not to become the Creator, but to have the ability to know good and evil, which is something she already had. In the Garden of Eden, humans and heavenly beings were able to interact with each other freely. However, after the Fall, humans were banned from the mountain where the heavenly beings resided. The Fall created a rift between humans and the heavenly beings, who were jealous of humans. In the Bible, there are many stories of meetings between God and humans.  The conversation covers the topic of man's attempts to reach God, starting with Cain and Abel. It is mentioned that Abraham was likely a moon god worshipper in the city of Ur, but God chose him anyway and to make a name for Himself.  The conversation then moves to Acts chapter two, which is considered the reversal of Babel. In this chapter, many people are gathered together and hearing different languages, the preaching in their own tongues. This is the reversal of Babel, where they're all together, and so they're all speaking one language, and so God separates them into many languages.   https://www.douglasvandorn.com/ https://www.rbcnc.com/ https://unrefinedpodcast.com/membership Timestamps0:00:03Doug Van Dorn on the Unseen Realm of Genesis 60:02:25The Importance of Imagination in Christian Thought0:04:08The Importance of Storytelling in Christianity0:07:52The Divine Council in the Bible0:10:01The Unseen Realm: Dr. Michael Heiser0:11:41The Nephilim: A Biblical Theology of Giants0:13:29The Sethite View: A Biblical Perspective on the End Times0:15:16The Nephilim: A Biblical Mystery0:16:53The History of the Nephilim0:20:59The History of the Sethite View of Genesis 60:23:55The Book of First Enoch and the Two Powers in Heaven0:27:08The History of the Supernatural View of Genesis 60:29:06The Bible and the Nephilim0:30:49The Flood and the Tower of Babel0:33:45The Significance of the Medical Symbol with Two Serpents0:35:30The Nephilim: A Biblical Perspective0:38:37The Flood: A Local or Universal Event?0:40:21The Bible and the Nephilim: 0:42:08The Nephilim: A Biblical Explanation0:46:24 Angels given Dominion over the Heavenly Realms0:47:06The Temptation of Eve: Dominion Over Good and Evil0:47:35The Divine Council and the Garden of Eden0:48:11The Divine Council in the Bible0:56:10The Reversal of Babel0:58:05The Power of the Bible0:59:08The Power of Story: How Our Story Can Change the Way We Think About the World0:59:19Three passages on How the Giants interact with Christ1:00:18Deuteronomy 32:7-8 and Dr. Michael Heiser’s paper1:03:10The Tower of Babel and the Inheritance of the Nations1:07:08The Messianic Prophecies of Psalm Two 1:08:12The Divine Council in the Bible1:09:16The Divine Council and the Giants1:11:40The Eschatology of the Nephilim/Giants1:14:08The Bible and the Nephilim1:16:07The Battle for Allegiance: The New Testament Approach to Spiritual Warfare1:16:19The Battle Against Evil Spirits1:21:48What the Nephilim Mean to Us Today1:23:00The Power of the Gospel to Dispel Darkness1:25:31The Importance of Masculinity in the Church
Episode 6- Dream Warriors- Sleep Paralysis and other things that go bump in the night!
Dec 19 2022
Episode 6- Dream Warriors- Sleep Paralysis and other things that go bump in the night!
Sleep paralysis occurs when the body's natural state of paralysis during REM sleep persists into wakefulness. This can be a terrifying experience, especially if one is not aware that it is a normal phenomenon. People who experience sleep paralysis often see things which can add to the fear and confusion. People experiencing sleep paralysis often go to the doctors, but the standard answer is that it is a sleep disorder. The reality is that sleep paralysis is a whole-body experience that is intertwined with spirituality and the body. The speakers discuss the idolization of doctors and the phenomenon of science becoming a religion. They discuss how science has its own set of presuppositions, one of which is that the supernatural does not exist. They also discuss how this can be a problem for Christian doctors who believe in the supernatural. https://www.instagram.com/vickijoyauthor/  Connie K Yom Story   Timestamps0:00:05Sleep Paralysis: A Scientific and Supernatural Explanation0:02:51Sleep Paralysis: A Discussion0:05:10The Science of Sleep Paralysis0:07:10The Dangers of Scientism in Healthcare0:10:28The Different Types of Sleep Paralysis and Their Explanations0:12:14Sleep Paralysis: The Nightmare0:14:09Sleep Paralysis: A Conversation0:20:25Sleep Paralysis: A Scientific and Supernatural Explanation0:22:27The Relationship Between Sleep Paralysis, Nightmares, and 80s Movies0:24:28The Nightmare on Elm Street: A Discussion on Sleep Paralysis0:26:32The Different Types of Sleep Paralysis Experiences0:29:14Conversation discussing their experiences with sleep paralysis.0:31:20The Different Types of Sleep Paralysis Experiences0:38:14Sleep Paralysis and the Power of Jesus's Name0:42:16Sleep Paralysis: Connie 0:44:05Sleep Paralysis: What You Need to Know
Episode 5- Renegade (For the Lord) Part 2
Dec 12 2022
Episode 5- Renegade (For the Lord) Part 2
Part 2 of a conversation where Brandon, Lindsy, and guest Neil Gamble discuss how God's grace is radical and transformative. Neil shares how, even though he had led a life of drugs and destructive behaviors, God never once condemned him. Brandon and Neil agree that this is a balance between God's grace and His call to obedience.  Neil talks about how, when he first became interested in the supernatural and started attending a church, he used to seek miracles, but he learned that it is better to seek Jesus. He says that most miracles happen outside of the church building/meeting. He attributes this to the fact that most people don't know how to live with Jesus at work. The speakers discuss how the church often has a “come and see” attitude, expecting miracles and wonders to happen only inside the church building.  https://fathershandministries.com/Timestamps0:00:10The Unrefined Podcast: Talking with Neil Gamble about his journey "Walking Naturally Supernatural"0:03:05The Power of Signs and Wonders: A Conversation with a Supernatural believer0:04:59Signs, Wonders, and Miracles Outside the Church0:07:57The Church's Come and See Attitude0:09:38The Israelites in the Wilderness: Why God's Presence Was Enough0:11:16The Presence of Christ Does Not Mean We Are in the Right Spot with God0:13:27The Importance of Eden in Christian Discipleship0:17:11Creative Miracles: Neil Gamble's Incredible Story0:18:37The Power of Prayer: An American Missionary in India0:20:40The Power of Prayer: A Miraculous Story of Healing0:22:40Fathers House Ministry0:27:02The Holy Spirit: What Every Christian Needs to Know
Episode 4- Renegade (For the Lord) Part 1
Dec 5 2022
Episode 4- Renegade (For the Lord) Part 1
Our first interviewed guest-  Neil Gamble talks about his ministry of raising up disciples all over the world. He emphasizes the importance of intimacy in discipleship, and how obedience to God cannot be separated from the supernatural. He shares his story of meeting God and becoming a follower of Christ, which is an amazing testimony of God's power and love.  Father's Hand Ministries is a discipleship organization. He has seen many supernatural things happen in his ministry, and believes that God is still doing great things through him. The speakers discuss the importance of intimacy and discipleship.  They talk about how they have seen movements start in many countries around the world, and how they work to equip people to reach their own people groups. They also talk about how the supernatural is an integral part of their work in multiplying discipleship movements. The speakers discuss the importance of the Holy Spirit in Christianity. Without the Holy Spirit, Christianity is just another religion. The Holy Spirit is what gives Christianity its power.https://fathershandministries.com/ Timestamps0:00:10Interview with Neil Gamble on Discipleship and the Supernatural0:02:36Father's Hand Ministries: A Mission Discipleship Organization0:04:49The Power of Intimacy and Discipleship in Spreading the Gospel0:08:05The Power of the Holy Spirit in Christianity0:10:11The Power of the Living Lord Jesus Christ vs. The Occult0:12:16Sheep Herding in the Desert: A Conversation with an Atheist0:14:06The Conversation between Neil and the Pastor.0:16:32The Power of Prayer: A Miraculous Healing Story0:21:13The Struggles of a Former Drug Dealer0:23:16The Power of God in My Life0:28:17The Holy Spirit in Luke 11:130:29:49Baptism of the Holy Spirit: A Conversation with Neil
Episode 2- Naturally Supernatural
Nov 21 2022
Episode 2- Naturally Supernatural
Brandon and Lindsy discuss recent listening and reading habits which include the Irish Celtic punk band, the Pogus, The Pathfinder by James Fenimore Cooper and the British show, The Devil's Hour. They then discuss how they see patterns in the media they consume for entertainment value. The speakers discuss The Peripheral, a dystopian TV show about trans-humanism. They discuss how the show is a treatise for trans-humanism, and how the elite want to use it to control the population. They also discuss the Midnight Mass, another TV show that is recommended by a friend. They quickly transition into talking about testimonies of when they first got introduced to the supernatural. Lindsy talks about a dream he had as a kid, where he and another boy were trying to steal treasure from an attic, and the boy turned into a rabbit and hopped away, leaving Lindsy behind. In the dream, Jesus appeared to Lindsy in a flash of light. Brandon talks about how he was first introduced to the supernatural through a friend who was involved in the occult. He eventually got baptized in the Spirit and started having prophetic dreams and visions. Brandon describes his journey from agnosticism to Christianity, and how his views on the supernatural have changed over time. They recount experiences from their childhood that they couldn't explain, and how they eventually came to believe in the power of the Holy Spirit. They talk about how their views have evolved over time, and how they are now more open to the idea of the supernatural.  Timestamps0:00:31The Unrefined Podcast: Episode #20:03:24The Peripheral: A Treatise for Trans-humanism In the above conversation, the speaker discusses the Amazon Prime show The Peripheral and how it is a treatise for trans-humanism. They discuss how the show portrays a Dystopian world 0:05:42Lindsy and Brandon’s Testimonies of the Supernatural0:10:42The Different Types of Spiritual Experiences 0:13:25The Role of Prophecy in the Christian Life0:15:09The Journey of a Spiritual Warrior0:17:17The Supernatural Experiences 0:19:55The supernatural experiences of a young Christian man0:24:35The Importance of the Supernatural in Our Lives0:26:29The Church and the Supernatural Worldview0:29:00The Power of a Supernatural Worldview
Episode 1- Stairs in the Woods
Nov 14 2022
Episode 1- Stairs in the Woods
The two hosts of the Unrefined podcast discuss their vision for the podcast, which is to explore the world beyond the veil of the physical world. They hope to discuss various topics from a biblical worldview and to also include guests on the show. The conversation is about how the world is a strange place and how they are trying to find their place in it. They talk about how they want to explore the weird through a biblical worldview and how the further they have gone down this rabbit hole, the weirder it has gotten. They mention how they are both fans of Joe Rogan and Michael Heiser and how they are trying to make their place in the world. Lindsy has been listening to the Sisters of Mercy and Desmond Doom recently, and is reading Lewis's Space Trilogy. They are reading the trilogy mainly because they are interested in the last book's dystopian, trans-humanist future. They discuss the book First Enoch, which is a book about the pre-flood character Enoch. The book is unique and fresh, and the speaker is also reading a companion book to it. Enoch is an important book because it is quoted by Jude and referenced by Peter. Timestamps0:00:11The Unrefined Podcast: A Focus on the Seen and the Unseen0:03:35The Weird World We Live In:0:05:07Desmond Doom's Surf Goth Album and Lewis's Space Trilogy0:07:23The following is a conversation between the hosts discussing the book, First Enoch, 0:09:58What We've Been Reading and Listening to Lately0:14:11Predictive Programming in Movies and TV0:15:34The Stairs in the Woods: A Fascinating Phenomenon0:19:27The Stairs in the Woods: A Fascinating Phenomenon0:22:35Conversation between the hosts discussing a recent article about a search and rescue team finding a set of stairs in a remote location.0:24:22The Stairs in the Woods: A Supernatural Phenomenon0:29:16Skeptics and the Supernatural0:31:22The Supernatural Stairs: A Conversation0:36:31The thin space concept in relation to the stairs in the woods.0:38:35The Reenchantment of the World:   Highlights"But the Irish have always traditionally talked about these thin spaces, these places where, for good or for ill, that the seen and the unseen or the veil between the two are very thin.""I mean, Eden was on a mountain and Eden was a place where God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. And so it was a place where both the physical and the spiritual met, and they met in a way where they were both in existence there.""This whole stairs in the woods phenomena, you guys, is not commonplace. I mean, if you survey ten people on the street, ten people won't know about this."