PODCAST

The Power of Music Thinking

Christof Zürn

Business Consultant, Service Designer, Musicologist and Musician Christof Zürn takes you inside the minds of some of the world’s most exciting people ‘AND Musicians’. Professionals that in some or other way use music, musical principles, instruments and techniques to work meaningful together. Or in short: the podcast for People with a musical heart and a wicked job.

Performing in Japan with Bjoern
May 16 2022
Performing in Japan with Bjoern
Today we are in München, Germany, talking to Björn Eichstädt, Managing Partner & Co-Owner of Storymaker and publisher of the digital magazine “J-BIG – Japan Business in Germany”. He studied Neurobiology and was active in experimental music in the 1990s and 2000s.  Björn takes us on a trip to Japan. From J-Horror Films, Japanese Spirits, Film music, audio innovations, sound aficionados and the Sound Design of the Tokyo Treinstation (note: I added the Yurakucho sound after the conversation).   And he shares the business habits and the harmony aspect in collaboration, the ‘performance thinking’ of meetings in Japan and ‘the customer is god’ attitude. But let’s start with a warning, this is by far the most extended podcast in The Power of Music Thinking history, so if you are prepared to listen to 30 minutes podcasts, you might want to pause and listen further the next day. All right let’s dive into it.   Show notes Björn on LinkedIn:  Storymaker Website:  Japan Business in Germany:     Extra links to Films and Music mentioned in the conversation Toru Takemitsu - Woman in the dunes  Un Uomo da Rispettare (Complete) - Ennio Morricone Toru Takemitsu graphic scores J-Horror and Sound: Kayako Saeki sound  J-Horror and Sound 2: Ringu Sound Design  Vocaloid: Hatsune Miku - World is Mine ~【手描き】ワールドイズマイン【Erich von Däniken / Peter Thomas: Chariots of the Gods: Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Chariots Of The Gods ℗ 1970 - YouTube Stockhausen: Sounds in Space, Osaka 1970  Pedestrian crossings with sound in Japan! - YouTube Gate Sounds for Boarding. - YouTube Yamanote Line - The Comprehensive Eki-melo Database    More info The Power of Music Thinking is brought to you by CREATIVE COMPANION specialised in facilitating companies in making brand minded and people-centred decisions.   Buy The Power of Music Thinking book See the latest episode of The Power of Music Thinking
Brands as Patterns with Marc Shillum
Feb 14 2022
Brands as Patterns with Marc Shillum
Today we speak with Marc Shillum, Designer, Creative Mind and trained musician. Marc was the founding Chief Experience Officer of Matternet, a pioneering transportation startup awarded World Economic Forum Technology Pioneer. In his role, he connected the dots between Customer Needs, Hardware Design, Software Design, User Experience, Visual Design, Business Strategy and Brand Building. Marc has written OpEds for The World Economic Forum and Virgin Unite, delivered keynotes at SXSW, the Lego Marketing Summit, Nike Design Summit, and others. And Marc is the author of 'Brands as Patterns', a  white paper that opinion-makers like FastCompany, Contagious Magazine and PSFK have republished. We have a wonderful conversation about analogies between design, business, the human body and music. For example, Marc shares the various roles of a trumpet player in an orchestra and his early experiences with improvising musicians like Graham Collier and Derek Bailey.  We talk about different leadership positions, from composing, orchestrating, and conducting and how different musical styles help us understand our business.  And we discuss the difference between frequency and cadence in an agile workspace and how brands can orchestrate their business successfully with patterns.   Show notes Brands as Patterns platform, on Twitter, on LinkedIn,  Magazine INDEX, including a few conversations with guitarist Derek Bailey, we talked about in the session:      More info The Power of Music Thinking is brought to you by CREATIVE COMPANION specialised in facilitating companies in making brand minded and people-centred decisions.   Buy The Power of Music Thinking book (April 2022)   See the latest episode of The Power of Music Thinking
A Sound Facilitation Business with Gerry Scullion
Sep 29 2021
A Sound Facilitation Business with Gerry Scullion
How do you design for inclusivity? How do you get the right people on the team? What would a studio look like for a service designer?    Today on the show we have Gerry Scullion. Gerry is the founder of This is HCD, the global human-centred design podcast and international design community of change-makers, and he is founder and CEO of This is Doing.com  In a ‘previous life’, he was a musician and songwriter who released two albums under the moniker: Minus Circus and worked with 13-time Grammy-winning producer Rafa Sardina. A few months ago, I was a guest on his podcast, and we talked about the interrelationship of music and design and what design can learn from music.  So today, we talk about how the shared mindset comes back in the daily life of a facilitator, service designer and change maker.  Gerry gives us insights into how it was like working with a top-notch producer that had the experience, knowledge and ability to drill down and zoom in on a detail and then drill the whole way out to see the whole.  And we talk about bringing vulnerability and laughter to co-create innovation and engage people to be their very best.  (The instrument you hear in the beginning is the Theremin we talked about in our first conversation.)   Show notes Connect with Gerry: This is Doing: www.thisisDoing.com Twitter: @thisisdoing and @gerrycircus This is Human Centred Design: www.thisishcd.com Episode with Gerry and Christof on This is HCD:    More info The Power of Music Thinking is brought to you by CREATIVE COMPANION Learn more about The Music Thinking Framework, the Jam Cards and the blog on musicthinking.com or the Music Thinking LinkedIn page. See the latest episode of The Power of Music Thinking
The Thrills of Business with Padraic McMahon
Aug 10 2021
The Thrills of Business with Padraic McMahon
What are the similarities between the technology and the record industry? And what is situational leadership? In this episode, we connect with Padraic McMahon, Customer Success Manager at Hubspot, a software company that helps businesses grow. Padraic has worked in Management positions at Google and LinkedIn. Before that, he was the guitar player of The Thrills that had some major hits from 2003 on. Their first LP was going platinum in the UK and Ireland, and their top hit 'Big Sur' has more than 8 Mio plays on Spotify alone and is still growing.  We talk about the similarities in tech business and the record business and the situational leadership of the producer role that brings a group of people to their optimum performance regardless of the circumstances.  He shares with us what the Hubspot unplugged week means to the team and compares the studio analogy with the importance of the work-life balance in working for a technology company. And the insight that you need different leadership at different times.  Like the difference of the first record, to the second and the third - or in my words from start-up to scale-up to selling the company. Padraic gives us an example of 'the art of remixing' where visual and sonic cues help make the mix's best decision.  Quote: 'Where you invest, you need to divest!'    Show notes Connect with Padraic:  Hubspot website:  The Thrills on Wikipedia:  Padraic explains Schumpeter’s Theory of Creative Destruction and MBWA - management by wandering around.   More info The Power of Music Thinking is brought to you by CREATIVE COMPANION Learn more about The Music Thinking Framework, the Jam Cards and the blog on musicthinking.com or the Music Thinking LinkedIn page. See the latest episode of The Power of Music Thinking
Deep listening with Sharon Stewart
Jun 29 2021
Deep listening with Sharon Stewart
This episode is about listening - deep listening. My guest today is Sharon Stewart -  creator of sound works, musician, poet, researcher, piano teacher and deep listener.  We learn about the Center for Deep Listening at Rensselaer and the retreats that were held by composer Pauline Oliveros and the many ways to listen, for example like listening in dreams, embodied listening and that deep listening is about doing, writing, practising and experiencing. We talk about text scores, guiding principles, and using this in a non-musical context. We also chat about the listening presence of leadership and that we all might benefit when this would shift from just ‘listening to’ to ‘listening with’.   And Sharon shares with us her contribution to the ‘Listening guide for quarantine’ that was published at the beginning of the pandemic and an exercise of harmonious human interaction with sounding and listening that we also could do in a workshop situation. Connect with Sharon:   Download Homing inside out: A listening guide for home quarantine (2020 Soundtrack City, The Mystifiers, STEIM)  Upcoming Deep Listening® Retreats  The Center for Deep Listening® at RPI  Sonic works by Sharon Stewart  Podcast miniseries on Deep Listening®  Journal of Sonic Studies Article on Deep Listening®  Sharon can be reached at s.stewart@artez.nl The Power of Music Thinking is brought to you by CREATIVE COMPANION More about The Music Thinking Framework, the Jam Cards and the blog on musicthinking.com