Legal Grounds | Conversations on Life, Leadership & Law

Mike H. Bassett

After over three decades in the legal-trenches, Mike Bassett has learned to appreciate two things: good conversation & good coffee.

Legal Grounds is an ongoing series of interviews with the people who are shaping our world - legal or otherwise. Witty, irreverent, & always thoughtful, these brief discussions fall somewhere between “Night Court” & Hopper’s “Nighthawks At The Diner”.

With that in mind, we promise your coffee will still be warm when the podcast is done.

(Legal Grounds was written, recorded, and produced by Dust Devil Press)

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Legal Grounds | Stephenie Zamora
Aug 16 2023
Legal Grounds | Stephenie Zamora
Right before recording this podcast, I was in the big-fat-middle of preparing for trial.I wasn't in full "Game On" mode, but the possibility of spending my next three weeks in a courtroom wasn't negligible. And even though I've been doing this for nearly 4 decades, every time I sit down to prep for a case there will come a point where I have to come face to face with my limiting beliefs. That "this trail" could be the one I somehow fumble in a way that could be embarrassing at best and dangerous at worst. - and crazy as it may sound, I'm thankful for these moments. As my guest today learned much earlier than I did, putting ourselves in situations that force us to reconcile who we are with who we want to be is the surest way toward growth.Stephenie Zamora is the founder of Stephenie Zamora Media, a business and marketing firm.She and her team specialize in working with people who are struggling to rise up in the aftermath of loss, trauma, depression, and other big life transitions as they begin building a business around their callings. Stephenie is the author of multiple books, including “10 Life Tips for the Dark Night of the Soul”, and the memoir, “Unravel”, which became a #1 new release in multiple categories. Undeniably passionate and radically vulnerable, Stephenie continues to document her journey through her Substack community as well as her YouTube channel and Podcast, “Tales From the Journey”We discuss why the meaning we assign to our suffering matters as much as the lessons we learn from it, how leaders make purpose their purpose, and how community can conquer all that life has to throw at us.Enjoy the Show!
Legal Grounds | Darren Wurz
Jul 26 2023
Legal Grounds | Darren Wurz
My late mother taught me that there were three things that you never brought up in polite company:PoliticsReligionMoneyNow, I'd argue that in social situations these are still best-practices. but what's interesting is those first two... well, they're not so 'taboo' any more.  Now, I don't have the numbers to back it up, but I think a huge factor is social media. And PLEASE know I'm not 'blaming' anyone for anything, but I'd be willing to bet a majority of us share their political and religious affiliations and opinions openly. Whether it's Twitter (r.i.p.) or Instagram or TikTok, politics and religion drive a huge part of the conversations and content. But money? Not so much. Sure, there's plenty of stuff about saving and making money, but I don't think I've seen anyone post their savings account balance. But my guest today wants to break that taboo. Darren Wurz is a portfolio manager for Wurz Financial Services, a boutique, family business, specializing in the financial planning needs of law firm owners. A Certified Financial Planner, he holds a Master’s Degree in Financial Planning and is the author of The Lawyer Millionaire, A Financial Guide For Attorneys published by the American Bar Association.  We talk about the financial conversations lawyers need to be having at every stage of their career, why leaders need to promote financial literacy at all levels, and how being better with our own finances actually helps us serve our clients better. Enjoy the show!
Legal Grounds | Gary Miles
Jul 3 2023
Legal Grounds | Gary Miles
If it feels like we touch a lot on the myths surrounding the legal profession it is because there are many, and because they often contain at least some elements of truth. Just think of the stereotypes of The Ambulance Chaser with a desk full of papers in an office that’s too small. Or the Righteous D.A. who always knows the right thing to say. A lot of these myths are harmless, comical, or FAR too flattering, but there is one myth - or perhaps trope would be the better word - that follows legal professionals around like the Charlie Brown cloud. The Hard Drinking Lawyer. When I was cutting my teeth in the late 80’s, liquid lunch was not uncommon. Or at least it wasn’t frowned upon. But as more and more awareness has been raised (and more data gathered), the “glamor” that surrounded this lifestyle is fading. But just because irish coffee isn’t office appropriate doesn’t mean the problem has gone away. And as my guest today will tell you, people can get pretty good at hiding it - especially from themselves. Gary Miles has been a high-level trial attorney for over 40 years in a variety of areas including transportation law, serious personal injury, and family law.He has been the managing partner of Huesman, Jones, and Miles for over three decades and an active member of many professional associations, but he will be the first to tell you he’s learned as much from his failures as he has from his success. I know few lawyers – though the numbers are growing – who will openly admit the parts of THEIR lives they regret, and I know even fewer who will share their struggles when it comes to one of the few taboos we still have in our profession and our culture at large: addiction.  But that struggle is not Gary’s entire story, and in fact it is the story of those lessons learned that have made him into a more effective attorney and mentor. It’s a shorter episode this week, but don’t confuse brevity with lack of depth, because Gary has it in spades.Enjoy the Show! __________The Free Lawyer Podcast
Legal Grounds | Clive Savacool
May 18 2023
Legal Grounds | Clive Savacool
When I first started this podcast I never thought I would have the range of guests I’ve been lucky enough to talk to over the past couple of years. Getting to learn what leadership looks like in fields outside my own has taught me that, while leadership is going to look different in every setting, good leadership has qualities that are universal, and therefore transferable.Now, talking to someone who has changed professions is par for the course on this show, but I don’t think we’ve ever caught a guest who was literally in the process of shifting between two wildly different careers. But, if you think about it, it makes sense; starting a business leaves little time for much else. That’s why I was so thankful that Clive Savacool took the time to sit down and unpack that transition in real-time. A  veteran firefighter with 25 years of experience, Clive would end up captaining multiple departments in his home state of California. During that time he responded to thousands of calls and became very familiar with administering and tracking narcotics to on-scene accident victims. He was also smart enough to notice there was a huge problem - all these records were being kept by hand.These real-world experiences led him to develop LogRX, a medication tracking and management system that keeps patients safe and medical professionals accountable by tracing narcotics from their origin all the way to their administration. Clive and I discuss what skills are always transferable as a leader, what it takes to become comfortable leading in a space where you don’t know it all, and why the “move fast and break things” mentality doesn’t always work. Enjoy the show!
Legal Grounds | Joe Fried
May 17 2023
Legal Grounds | Joe Fried
If you’ve ever watched a professional football game then you know that about 70% of the time when they cut to a  shot of a coach there’s a clipboard or tablet in front of their face. And if you’re in anyway familiar with the game, you know it’s not because they’re all nearsighted but because they are THAT concerned with keeping their strategy a secret.So with that in mind, I want you to picture what would happen if it came out the the head-coach of ‘Team A’ was going to training-camps for ‘Team B’ and saying, “Here’s how we play. Here’s the new plays we’re trying. And here’s how we’ve improved.”Not only would that coach quickly be out of a job, fans and players alike would cry foul (pun intended) because after all, this is a competition! Well, that’s what a lot of lawyers might think my guest this week is doing and it’s not their fault — they’ve been trained to think that way.I first met Joe Fried at a DRI conference in Chicago when he was giving a talk very similar to our hypothetical head-coach. For three decades, Joe has practiced as a plaintiff’s attorney at both the State and Federal levels, and like you’s truly, he specializes in trucking accident litigation.  In 2007 he founded his own firm, Fried Goldberg, but not content with simply trying cases, Joe is also a prolific speaker at both Plaintiffs and Defense Conferences, as well as CLE Courses.His passion for teaching led him to found the Academy of Trucking Accident Attorneys which is committed to providing cutting edge resources, education and support to its members and to encouraging the sharing of information between members. If his name sounds familiar that’s because Joe was guest number EIGHT on this podcast; to say the legal landscape has changed since then would be an understatement. Joe and I discuss the rise of run-away verdicts and (ironically) the danger they pose to future plaintiffs,  why living a life outside of law is necessary to being an attorney of impact, and why the defense bar needs to stop with the hoarding strategy and start sharing skills unless we want to be left in the legal-dust.So listen up fellow Defense Attorneys and  the rest of you….Enjoy the show.
Legal Grounds | Sarah Hernholm
May 10 2023
Legal Grounds | Sarah Hernholm
I often joke on the show that a lot of people my age have the "these kids today..." mentality.  But like a lot of humor there is a strong undercurrent of truth, and so my hope has always been that leaders will eventually see that this mentality is not just foolish, but also pretty dang silly.  And to further complicate things, as my guest today points out, adults aren't totally wrong that this generation seems to be less motivated and less resilient than those that came before them.  The problem: it's our fault.Too often as leaders and, for lack of a better term, "grown-up’s,” we are very good at pointing out the problems and very bad at remedying them. Sarah Hernholm  is a former elementary school teacher turned entrepreneur. In 2009, she left the classroom to create WIT - Whatever It Takes - an organization that works with teens and tweens around the world who are interested in using their voice and ideas to launch businesses, non-profits, and/or social movements, all while helping them to develop emotional intelligence, soft skills, and an entrepreneurial mindsetA three-time TEDx Speaker (1) (2) (3), Sarah also writes for FORBES and TODAY Show Parent, hosts the DO WIT podcast, and is currently writing her book “11 Tips for Doing WIT.”We discuss why kids actually DO love working, why adults too often play the victim in situations they create, and the power of commas over periods.  Oh, and Will Ferrell... Enjoy the show!
Legal Grounds | Nadya Zhexembayeva
May 4 2023
Legal Grounds | Nadya Zhexembayeva
If I asked you how many of today's Fortune 500 companies have maintained the status quo over the past 60 years, you're probably going to get the number wrong. Or, at least I did. When we think of the Titans of Industry - your IBM's, your G.E.'s, your AT&T's - it's easy to see why we'd assume that Fortune 500 companies have been around forever OR have consistent staying power. But once you start to look past the old-guard, you quickly realize that a lot of the companies that once shared a spot on that coveted list are gone. A.O.L. anyone? But even with all of that in mind, the number was still shocking: 89%. And while a lot of factors can be pointed to, my guest today points to one factor that unites them all - a failure to reinvent. Nadya Zhexembayeva is an entrepreneur and has founded multiple companies, most notably the Reinvention Academy and the WE EXIST Reinvention Agency whose clients have included Coca-Cola, IBM, and Cisco Systems. She has taught courses on business and management at multiple institutions including IEDC-Bled School of Management in Slovenia, Case Western Reserve in the United States, and IPADE Business School in Mexico.Nadya has given multiple TEDTalks (1) (2) (3) and is the author of multiple best-selling books, with several focusing on the environmental impacts of business including, “Overfished Ocean Strategy: Powering Up Innovation For A Resource-Deprived World” and “Embedded Sustainability: The Next Big Competitive Advantage.”We discuss why so many companies don’t survive disruption, how the more you know about what you do the easier it is to let things go, and why admitting you don't have the answer can actually generate more solutions. It's a fantastic conversation, and if you're a statistics nerd then this is the episode for you. Enjoy the show!
Legal Grounds | Garner Berry
Apr 26 2023
Legal Grounds | Garner Berry
Every time I get to sit down and record an episode of this podcast I remind myself that what I want is a conversation, not an interview. Now, a big part of that is because when asking questions I know I have the tendency to default to "lawyer-mode,” which I would technically describe as listening, but the only purpose of the answer is to inform your next question. A conversation, however, requires active listening. It requires letting topics and thought-processes intertwine in ways both strange and wonderful, and when it can be sustained the conversation morphs into something like jazz.A mood contained. My conversation this week with Garner Berry happens to be one of them. He is a dear friend and a damn good attorney, recently being named partner at Chartwell Law. But for the purpose of our conversation today, Garner is the father of a 13 year old son with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy, a degenerative disease with no known cure. From refocusing during times of crisis to laughing in the face of tragedy, trying to encapsulate everything discussed would take as long to read as it would for you to listen to the podcast, so I'll simply say two things: 1) The best leaders are the ones who keep going when hope is all that's left. 2) Get your tissues. Enjoy the Show.Check out the links below for more information about DMD and  ways to help.The Parent Project - a DMD Specific OrganizationMuscular Dystrophy Association (MDA) RAD (Radically Against Dystrophy)