Ep. 12 – Adrian, Age 8: Kid bullies him at recess. | Knowing when to get adult help

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THINK ABOUT IT QUESTIONS to discuss with your child

Why do you think it’s important to speak up if you hear someone say something mean about your friend? What would you do if you heard someone say something mean about a kid you don’t know well? What would you do if the mean comments were about a kid you know but don’t like?

What, if anything, have you learned at school about race and racism? What have you learned about those topics from adult family members?

Do you think it matters whether someone said a racist comment on purpose, trying to be hurtful, versus saying it without realizing the comment is hurtful? Why or why not?

How do you know when it’s important to talk to an adult about mean or racist comments versus handling the situation yourself?

TRANSCRIPT

Hi, there, I’m Dr. Eileen Kennedy-Moore, also known as Dr. Friendtastic. I’m an author and clinical psychologist based in Princeton, NJ.

Here’s today’s question:

Hi, my name’s Adrian, and I am 8 years old. Every time I go out for recess there is another boy that bullies me. I have asked him to stop, but he doesn't. What should I do?

Hi, Adrian. I’m so sorry to hear you’re dealing with this. It’s upsetting to be picked on by somebody, especially when it happens again and again!

One thing that’s important to understand is that if you’ve asked someone to stop two times, and they’re still not listening, they’re probably not going to stop. That means your goal has to shift from trying to change what he does to trying to take care of yourself.

Now, I bet you’re thinking, “But what he’s doing is wrong! He should stop!” I agree, he should stop doing whatever mean thing he’s doing…but he’s not. I don’t want you to be stuck getting picked on every day, so let’s think about what else you can do, given that asking this kid to stop hasn’t worked.

The first thing you need to figure out is whether what this kid is doing is true bullying or just ordinary meanness. Bullying involves someone being mean, on purpose, to a certain person, usually a bunch of times, but sometimes one especially mean action can count, AND, this is important, there’s a power difference between the kid doing the bullying and the kid getting picked on. In other words, the kid doing the bullying is bigger, stronger, tougher, or more socially powerful than the kid getting picked on, or there’s a group of kids picking on one kid.

Would you say that this boy who’s bothering you is more powerful than you? If there’s no power difference, then it’s not bullying; it’s just ordinary meanness.

This matters because if it’s bullying, the power difference means you probably need to get an adult involved. If you decide to tell a grown-up, you don’t have to announce, “I’m telling!” just find a quiet moment to tell an adult in charge what’s happening.

But if it’s just ordinary meanness, with no power difference, I’m sure you don’t like it, but you can probably handle the situation without an adult stepping in. Of course, you can always tell your parents or other adults who love you what’s happening. They can help you think things through, but they don’t need to step in to fix things for you. You can deal with ordinary meanness.

So, what could you do? Well, that’s hard to answer without knowing more about what’s happening, but one possibility is just to stay away from this kid. You could also decide to hang out near an adult or stay near friends. That makes you less of a target for the kid who’s picking on you because he probably won’t want to do the mean stuff where others can see.

One thing you definitely don’t want to do is be mean back to that kid. It’s tempting, I know, to try to get even, but that will just make the meanness grow.

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