The Container: A Circling and Authentic Relating Podcast

Marina Weiler is an Assistant Professor of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences in the UVA Division of Perceptual Studies.That’s one way to say that she scientifically studies out-of-body experiences (or OBEs). This research is deeply confronting to a purely materialist view of the world, and it helps us understand better how consciousness works.Anyone who has circled for an extended period of time has likely induced an OBE (or something like it) in the practice. Even if you haven’t, you’ve probably had some kind of experience that seriously undermines the idea that consciousness is simply something made by the brain.We brought on Marina Weiler to teach us about her work and then, in typical Container fashion, we give her an opportunity to go into her full view of the universe.📚 Check out the Division of Perceptual Studies at UVA! (https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/)Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Jordan Myska Allen. He pioneered many fundamental practices in the art of circling and authentic relating—and he coined an entirely new paradigm to file this work under: Relatefulness.And his organization (the Relateful Company in Austin, Texas) is the leading center of the relational arts in the United States. We talk about this thing of ours, with Jordan pushing us to go beyond the axioms and maxims that guide the practice for most of us. Instead, he pursues a radical interrogation of everything, willing to circle even the sacred cows of “Welcome Everything” and… as we will see right away… what dropping in could even mean.Whether you are new to circling or have been wading in the deep waters of transformational connection for decades, this conversation will connect you to the spiritual core of the practice.📚 Check out the Relateful Company here! (www.relateful.com)Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

In our final episode of the Advent season, we welcome the luminous Scout Rainer Wiley—mystical writer, ritual artist, and contemplative spirit. Known for her ability to weave esoteric wisdom with grounded, real-world insights, Scout takes us on a journey through her reflections on writing, living a sacred life, the importance of ritual, and how natural disasters (even a hurricane) can serve as an emergent ritual ordeal for an entire community.📚 Check out Scout's website here! (https://scoutrainerwiley.com/)📰 Read her Substack here! (https://hyperphantasiia.substack.com/)Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Alicen Grey is many things—a writer, a musician, a mystic, and a magician. She comes on The Container to talk about Jesus Christ and the secret of free energy. We also cover why opening ourselves up to the magic and power of Christianity can be so difficult given our personal histories and previous encounters with the religion.This very special episode comes just in time for Advent season. We are so grateful to be able to share it with you in this time of year. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas! 🔗 Find Alicen Grey at: https://www.alicen-grey.com/ 🔗 Find her music here: https://whenhumanshadwings.com/discography/ Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Mahaya Alina Sikorsky is a circling facilitator and life coach who works with The Connection Institute. She shares how this practice changed her life and how it can catalyze a profound shift in the world by developing New Earth Consciousness.🔗 Mahaya at The Connection InstituteCheck out Episodes 33 and 34 for interviews with Melody Indigo Markel who also works at The Connection Institute!Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Mark Walsh is a lot of things, but if you know his name, it’s likely because of his work with embodiment. And he blends life coaching with weight training to give young men guidance.We brought him on to talk about the issues facing men and how weightlifting can help.And along the way… we talk about politics. A first for The Container—and edgy territory for us to get into.🔗 Find him online at: https://www.embodimentunlimited.com🔗 Find his YouTube Channel at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfgLCTiNzVpIeL_j7Icxh8w🔗 Find his Podcast at: https://embodimentunlimited.com/podcast/🔗 Find his Feral Philosophy show at: https://www.youtube.com/@FeralPhilosophy_mwGrow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Peter Munthe-Kaas is a master of the Circling Europe tradition. He hops into the Container to discuss his blend of Circling, Tai Chi, and Daoism.🔗Find him online at: www.munthe-kaas.dkThis ties into our ongoing investigation in the Dao and Circling. You can see more of that in Episode 38: The Tao Te Ching and Circling and Episode 40: Who Is the Master in the Tao Te Ching?And, of course, Patreon members get all the episodes of our series The Way That Can Be Told, which goes chapter-by-chapter through the Tao Te Ching, looking at it as a guide to circling.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

We get hands-on, practical tools from a master of the relational arts—Michael Porcelli.He is the creator of MetaRelating, a powerful system blending Authentic Relating with broader communication and psychological frameworks. In this episode, Porcelli introduces a ton of helpful concepts, including the "We-Creature," a dynamic third entity between two people that needs attention and care. 🔗 For more on MetaRelating, visit: MetaRelating.com🔗 Check out Porcelli's free events and webinars here: MetaRelating LinktreeGrow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

This episode brings us the thoughts and experience of none other than Sean Wilkinson, co-founder of Circling Europe. He walks us through the power (and dangers) of tapping into life force.Deep bow to Sean and his extraordinary contributions to human connection and awakening. We are so humbled to bring you this conversation.Check out the Circling Europe website here.To get a refresher on Surrendered Leadership, check out our interview with Circling Europe co-founder John Thompson where he describes the practice in detail on Episode 31 here.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Martje Witzel comes back on the show to talk about deep connection. To each other and even to the earth itself. In this state of deep connection, we can expand our minds and discover the real meaning of things like "love" and "God."For more information on Martje, check out her website here.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Martje Witzel is a life coach and surrendered leadership facilitator.  Sharing space with her, you can immediately feel the power of her presence and the commitment she has to the practice.In this discussion, she helps us orient to the profound (and often bizarre) features of fields created under surrendered leadership. We continue to broaden our horizons until we find ourselves at the ultimate questions.And that's where we'll continue the conversation next week!For more information on Martje, check out her website here.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

For those of us who circle and practice surrendered leadership, we've all tasted the magic in what we do. I think that means we could learn a lot (and grow a lot) from seeing how people in the world of magic organize themselves and create heightened states of presence and oneness (a cosmic version of connection).To give us that perspective, Carolyn Lovewell comes back on the podcast. She helps us understand the importance of mystery schools and their place in the Western esoteric tradition.To learn more about her work, go to her website.To check out the Immortal College, go to their website here.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

We're back on the third rung of the Container spiral!We discuss Existential K/nk with Carolyn Lovewell (formerly Carolyn Eliot). She guides us through her discovery and creation of the single best shadow work system available today.To learn more about her work, go to her website.It's Episode 42. As you may know, 42 is a powerful number in the Kabbalah. In this system, the 42-letter name of God is used to connect to the days of creation, the Sephirah with their corresponding planets, and more. Mystics can enter multi-level states of consciousness by repeating this name like a mantra.And so, it is the perfect episode to launch our new series in "The Beyond." We'll be using the Relational Arts to go into the furthest reaches of consciousness, past our everyday life and into the occluded spheres of being that call to us in dream, as darkness falls and sky country twinkles with ten thousand points of angelic light.It all starts here with Carolyn Lovewell, our High Priestess welcoming us past the veil into the mysteries of The Beyond.Make sure to reach out and connect at our Facebook group. There, we are discovering the ways that circling can help us spiritually awaken.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

In this episode, we outline the six books we would recommend to anyone looking to take their circling practice deeper.Tao Te Ching translated by Stephen MitchellI Ching translated by Benebell WenNonviolent Communication by Marshall RosenbergGetting Real by Susan CampbellExistential Kink by Carolyn Elliot/LovewellNo Bad Parts by Richard SchwartzWe are also announcing a break! We'll be back to launch the next rung of the spiral on August 26th!In the meantime, you can catch us at Circling Europe's International Transformational Connection Festival 2024.Plus, make sure to reach out and connect at our Facebook group. There, we are discovering the ways that circling can help us spiritually awaken. More on that when we come back from break.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

In this deep dive into the Tao Te Ching, The Container dives into the second chapter. We discover that "the Master" described in the text can actually be used as a stand-in for the circle itself.=================================================================Chapter 2When people see some things as beautiful,other things become ugly.When people see some things as good,other things become bad.Being and non-being create each other.Difficult and easy support each other.Long and short define each other.High and low depend on each other.Before and after follow each other.Therefore the Masteracts without doing anythingand teaches without saying anything.Things arise and she lets them come;things disappear and she lets them go.She has but doesn’t possess,acts but doesn’t expect.When her work is done, she forgets it.That is why it lasts forever.=================================================================This second episode is being offered on the free feed, but the vast majority of this 81+ episode series is only available for paying patrons on our Patreon.If you need a refresher on circling, check out:this intro videothis articleHere are some other resources:A website with multiple translations of the Tao Te Ching side-by-side: Tao Te Ching – translation comparison (tasuki.org)We mention Strongstyle Circling, which is fully described here: https://youtu.be/a_cRUPU0LF4Music credit: "First Snow" by Kerusu https://soundcloud.com/kerusu/first-snow?si=5bd82c9a51bf46e7ab01c7e8c49a16d4&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharingGrow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Adam Quiney joins us once again to discuss the practice of Sacred Intimacy. This is a step-by-step process to build a strong physical connection from the ground up.To find more Adam Quiney go to his website at: www.AdamQuiney.comConnect with him on Facebook and LinkedIn.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

This episode marks the beginning of our The Way That Can Be Told series, where Sigh and I go through each chapter of the Tao Te Ching. On our long walk, we'll circle ourselves taking in the wisdom and connect it to the art and practice of circling itself.This first episode is being offered on the free feed, but the vast majority of this 81+ episode series is only available for paying patrons on our Patreon.If you need a refresher on circling, check out:this intro videothis articleHere are some other resources:A website with multiple translations of the Tao Te Ching side-by-side: Tao Te Ching – translation comparison (tasuki.org)We mention Strongstyle Circling, which is fully described here: https://youtu.be/a_cRUPU0LF4Music credit: "First Snow" by Kerusu https://soundcloud.com/kerusu/first-snow?si=5bd82c9a51bf46e7ab01c7e8c49a16d4&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharingGrow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Adam Quiney is a coach, podcaster, and spiritual thinker. We had an incredible conversation about the spiritual path, roaming through how we work with the ego, trauma, and let go.It's a beautiful walk through the spiritual path. So, join in!To find more Adam Quiney go to his website at: www.AdamQuiney.comConnect with him on Facebook and LinkedIn.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates takes us through a REPAIR process on the show! She shows us how conflict can be a doorway to deeper connection by working with conflict between The Container's hosts.It's edgy for us to present, and we are grateful we get to add this level of vulnerability to the project.To learn more about the REPAIR Process, go here.To sign up for the 8-week course starting July 2, go here.If you want to hear our interview with Dr. Yates on her REPAIR Process, check out Episode 35. To hear us go through couples coaching with Susan Campbell, check out Episode 25.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏

Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates comes on the podcast to teach us about the REPAIR process, a powerful tool for connection. It's exciting. It's informative. It's practical.To learn more about the REPAIR Process, go here.To sign up for the 8-week course starting July 2, go here.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group 🎹 Music Credit"Clot" by SupertaskKeep it namaste 🙏