Bobby Owsinski's Inner Circle Podcast

Bobby Owsinski

Interviews with music industry movers and shakers, , tips, and news

Podcast 449 – Engineer Lenise Bent, Metal Still Rules, And The Death Of The Key Change
1w ago
Podcast 449 – Engineer Lenise Bent, Metal Still Rules, And The Death Of The Key Change
My guest this week is Lenise Bent, who was one of a handful of women working in the Hollywood recording studio business in a technical role during the 1970s, and was the first woman to receive an RIAA Platinum album for her engineering of AutoAmerican by Blondie. While working as an assistant at Village Recorder, Lenise worked on a number of classic albums, including Aja by Steely Dan, Breakfast In America by Supertramp, and Tusk by Fleetwood Mac. She then became chief engineer for producer Mike Chapman, working on albums by Blondie, The Knack and Suzi Quatro. Lenise eventually moved over to post-production sound where she worked as a sound editor, sound supervisor and re-recording mixer on films like Shrek, Spirit and Shrek 2. During the interview we spoke about her getting her start as an assistant at Village Recorders, working on Steely Dan’s Aja Album, being chief engineer for producer Mike Chapman, getting sick from the intense work schedule, starting back at the bottom in post, and much more. I spoke with Lenise from her office in Los Angeles via zoom. On the intro I’ll take a look at how Metal continues to thrive, and the death of the key change in modern music. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 84272927, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };
Episode 448 – Publicist Ramon Hervey, You Can’t Trust Social Networks, And We Dance More With VLFs
Nov 22 2022
Episode 448 – Publicist Ramon Hervey, You Can’t Trust Social Networks, And We Dance More With VLFs
My guest this week is Ramon Hervey II, who’s worked as a highly regarded entertainment manager, brand consultant, and public relations specialist with a diverse and impressive roster of entertainers that encompass a wide spectrum of contemporary music genres, ranging from pop/rock, rhythm & blues, hip-hop, jazz, and gospel.  The list includes Richard Pryor, Bette Midler, Little Richard Lenny Kravitz, Don Cornelius, Paul McCartney, Herb Alpert, Vanessa Williams, Kenny "Babyface" Edmonds, Peter Frampton, Andrae Crouch, Nick Nolte, and James Caan, and many more.  He has also served as an Executive Producer for several films, television and live events, including the Peabody Award-winning documentary, "Chisholm '72: Unbought & Unbossed," the anniversary album, "NBA AT 50," and was a Music Supervisor for the NAACP Award-winning film "Free Angela and All Political Prisoners. Ramon recently wrote about his experiences in a book entitled “The Fame Game: An Insider’s Playbook For Earning Your 15 Minutes.” During the interview we spoke about promoting the great Motown acts, managing Little Richard, working with Mohammed Ali, what it takes to be successful in the entertainment business, dealing with celebrity egos, and much more. I spoke with Ramon from his office in New York via zoom. On the intro I’ll take a look at why you can’t rely on social media as your online presence, and dancing more when there’s more very low frequencies. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 84224726, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };
Episode 447 – TikTok Troubles, Facebook Audio Codec, And JackTrip Labs Execs
Nov 15 2022
Episode 447 – TikTok Troubles, Facebook Audio Codec, And JackTrip Labs Execs
My guests this week are Mike Dickey and Russ Gavin, of JackTrip Labs. The JackTrip Foundation is a non-profit collaboration between Stanford University’s Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics (CCRMA) and Silicon Valley software entrepreneurs. JackTrip Labs provides a low-latency collaboration tool that makes it easy for musicians to perform together online. Mike Dickey, who’s the CEO of JackTrip Labs, founded his first company in high school, and dropped out of Carnegie Mellon to become a full-time entrepreneur. Since then, Mike has built and sold three startup companies. His latest venture was Cloudmeter, which Splunk acquired in 2013. Prior to co-founding JackTrip, Mike held various leadership roles at Splunk focusing on Engineering, Architecture, Infrastructure and Product Management. Besides being the co-founder and COO of JackTrip Labs, Dr. Russ Gavin is also the Director of Bands at Stanford University. A lifelong advocate for accessible music education, Russ has taught music in K-12 and collegiate environments, continuously seeking and creating opportunities to utilize technology in the music classroom. His research publications have appeared in the Journal of Research in Music Education, the International Journal of Music Education, Psychology of Music, the Journal of Music Teacher Education, and the International Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis. During the interview we spoke about how JackTrip Labs  started, the things that contribute to latency in online collaboration, the musicians who are the most sensitive to latency, why zero latency can actually be disconcerting to some players, why conference calling apps won’t cut it for music, and much more. I spoke with Russ and Mike via zoom. On the intro I’ll take a look at what TikTok’s decreasing revenue target means, and Facebook’s new audio data compression codec. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 84118014, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };
Episode 442 – The CD Turns 40 Years Old, Slate Digital Is Acquired, And Vampr CEO Josh Simons
Oct 10 2022
Episode 442 – The CD Turns 40 Years Old, Slate Digital Is Acquired, And Vampr CEO Josh Simons
My guest this week is Josh Simons, CEO and co-founder of Vampr, the world’s largest and most active social-professional network for musicians.  Often dubbed the “LinkedIn for creatives”, Vampr is home to over one million users, and active in every country on the planet. The music startup has helped fledgling musicians broker over 7 million connections worldwide, and has made the Best Apps lists for both Apple and Google. Prior to running Vampr, Josh spent the better part of a decade as a successful artist, songwriter and producer. His artist project Buchanan enjoyed multi-million streams & chart impressions worldwide. As a producer and songwriter, Josh has shared credits with Travis Scott, Troye Sivan and Kanye West to name a few. He was also named in The Music Network’s 30 Under 30 List in addition to being voted Reader’s Choice. During the interview we spoke about touring expenses, using unseen collaborators, representing artists for sync placements, learning from bad publishing deals, and much more. I spoke with Josh via zoom from his office in Australia. On the intro I’ll take a look at the CD turning 40 after a rocky start, and the acquisition of Slate Digital. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 83922027, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };
Episode 441 – Scoring Mixer Jason LaRocca, YouTube’s Secret Weapon And All-Time Best Selling Pedals
Oct 4 2022
Episode 441 – Scoring Mixer Jason LaRocca, YouTube’s Secret Weapon And All-Time Best Selling Pedals
My guest this week is engineer Jason LaRocca, who has recorded and mixed music for major motion pictures, games and television. Jason not only engineers the scores, but often produces them as well, along with creating sound design and instrumentation. Jason has worked on films like Marvel's "Morbius,"“Paddington,” “Aquaman,” “The Harder They Fall,” “Coming to America 2”, “Godzilla: King of Monsters,” and the 2018 Oscar-winning documentary “Icarus,” among many others.  He’s also mixed the music for the hit video games “Fortnite,” “Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War,” “Assasin’s Creed Valhalla,” “CyberPunk 2077,” and Sony Playstation’s highly anticipated upcoming “God of War: Ragnarök.” among others. His TV credits include ABC’s long-running hit fantasy series, “Once Upon A Time,” “Godfather of Harlem,” “American Crime Story,” “Handmade’s Tale,” the award-winning mini-series “Little Fires Everywhere,” FOX’ #1 drama “The Cleaning Lady,” and the Amazon epic series “The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power.” In the music realm, Jason has recorded and mixed for such top recording artists as Jay-Z, CeeLo Green, Fiona Apple, Schoolboy Q and Serj Tankian of System of a Down. During the interview we spoke about making the transition from musician to engineer, the differences between engineering music and post production, the complexity of mixing Lord of the Rings, the many plugins in his mixing template, and much more. I spoke with Jason from his studio via zoom from his studio in Los Angeles, CA. On the intro I’ll take a look at YouTube’s secret weapon, and the best-selling pedals ever. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 83895287, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };
Episode 440 – Radio Royalties Again, Google Project Caviar, And Social Media Maven Cassie Petrey
Sep 27 2022
Episode 440 – Radio Royalties Again, Google Project Caviar, And Social Media Maven Cassie Petrey
Photo: Mike Krstic My guest this week is Cassie Petrey who’s been behind the social media marketing for some of the music’s most iconic artists including Backstreet Boys, Camila Cabello and Britney Spears.  Cassie is the co-founder of Crowd Surf, a leading marketing and music management firm. She started at age 12 creating a newsletter for the Backstreet Boys that reached fans worldwide — then years later she helped re-introduce the band to new generation of fans.  At age 17 as a college rep for Warner Music Group, Cassie was among the first in the music industry to recognize the vast marketing potential of nascent mid-2000s platforms Myspace and Facebook.  Today, her company Crowd Surf has worked with tech giants Apple and Google, and labels such as Universal, Disney, Sony, Warner and more.  Cassie is a Forbes 30 Under 30 and Billboard 30 Under 30 recipient, and she is a leading social media and artist management Hollywood powerhouse. During the interview we spoke about convincing a major label about the value of social media, motivating artists to post, how artists may compromise their brand on TikTok, getting artists to establish their brand, and much more. I spoke with Cassie via zoom from her office in Los Angeles, CA. On the intro I’ll take a look at the new radio artist royalty bills before Congress, and Google’s new Project Caviar. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 83855212, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };
Episode 438 – Former Maroon 5 Drummer Ryan Dusick, Will Your Song Be Stolen, And Constants Of Vocal Recording
Sep 13 2022
Episode 438 – Former Maroon 5 Drummer Ryan Dusick, Will Your Song Be Stolen, And Constants Of Vocal Recording
My guest this week is Ryan Dusick, who was Maroon 5’s original drummer until he retired because of chronic nerve damage. After departing the band, Ryan struggled with anxiety and addiction for a decade before making a commitment to recovery. Founding the group Kara’s Flowers in 1994 with fellow Brentwood High School students Adam Levine, Jesse Carmichael, and Mickey Madden, Ryan and his bandmates worked tirelessly for a decade before the group changed its name to Maroon 5 and finally had its first hit album Songs About Jane. Multiple hit songs, two Grammy Awards, and 20 million albums sold later, Ryan found himself suffering and without direction when his career as a performer came to an end just as it was taking off. After years of struggling with physical and mental health challenges, Ryan finally overcame in 2016, when he began his journey of recovery, culminating in a new life path.  Ryan now works as a mental health professional at the Missing Peace Center for Anxiety where he now helps others with their personal struggles, and has released a new book outlining his amazing life story. During the interview we spoke about the early days of Maroon 5, dealing with anxiety and a chronic injury, advice from U2, and much more. I spoke with RYAN via zoom from his personal studio in Los Angeles, CA. On the intro I’ll take a look at the parts of a song that are protectable, and the 9 constants of vocal recording. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 83777338, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };
Episode 437 – Song Doctor Molly Leikin, Song Codes Everyone Should Know, And The Bass Line That Crashed Computers
Sep 6 2022
Episode 437 – Song Doctor Molly Leikin, Song Codes Everyone Should Know, And The Bass Line That Crashed Computers
My guest this week is professional song doctor Molly Leikin, who’s coaching has helped 12 clients become Grammy winners and another 19 become Grammy nominees. Molly has been as a staff writer at Almo Music, Interworld Music and Chappell Music, and she’s written songs for and with everyone from Katy Perry to Placido Domingo  to, Cher, Tina Turner, Anne Murray, Billy Preston and many others. An Emmy nominee, she’s written themes and songs for dozens of TV shows and movies, including Violet, which won an Oscar. She’s also the author of the books How to Write A Hit Song and How To Be A Hit Songwriter, and producer of the bestselling Master Class in Songwriting, which is a collection of the Master Classes she taught at UCLA. Her latest book is Insider Secrets To Hit Songwriting In The Digital Age. During the interview we spoke about being a staff writer for a publisher, the most common song problems, writing for the current marketplace, the process of creative songwriting, and much more. I spoke with Molly via zoom from her office in Santa Barbara, CA. On the intro I’ll take a look at 2 song identifier codes every artist should know, and the bassline so powerful it crashed computers. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 83738631, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };
Episode 436 – Grammy Nominee Negatives, Environmental Vinyl, And Producer/Mixer/Educator Kevin Kelly
Aug 30 2022
Episode 436 – Grammy Nominee Negatives, Environmental Vinyl, And Producer/Mixer/Educator Kevin Kelly
My guest this week is Kevin Kelly, who’s a producer, mixer and long-time audio educator with a host of major label, film score and jingle credits. These include projects by Blondie, Edgar Winter and Rick Wakeman, among many others that he worked on from his well-known studio called The Workshoppe. For 14 years, Kevin was the producer/engineer for the WLIR-FM live concert series that featured Hall & Oates, Billy Joel, The Police, Charlie Daniels Band, Peter Tosh, Ziggy Marley, Pure Prairie League and many more, and also served as co-producer and chief engineer for a series of short-form radio shows for Sixty Second LP. Kevin also taught studio recording technology for 22 years at Nassau Community College, and continues to teach one adjunct course per semester there.  During the interview we spoke about the importance of networking, the new generation of plugins, how mutlitasking has changed attention spans, analog summing during mixing, and much more. I spoke with Kevin via zoom from his studio in Huntington, NY. On the intro I’ll take a look at how being a Grammy nominee might be detrimental to your career, and a new kind of greener vinyl is on the horizon. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 83705633, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };
Episode 434 – Streaming Farms, Music AI, And Artist Manager Talya Elitzer
Aug 16 2022
Episode 434 – Streaming Farms, Music AI, And Artist Manager Talya Elitzer
Credit: Gaston McGary My guest this week is Talya Elitzer, who along with her partner Nick Sylvester leads godmode, a company that offers label, management, publishing and creative direction services. godmode has an unorthodox approach to artist management in that they specialize in managing artists that don’t quite fit pre-existing formats. During the pandemic godmode was able to successfully stabilize their artists’ careers and help them achieve growth on streaming services andTikTok. They were even able to secure Four Apple TV ad spots in the last 12 months. Before godmode Talya began her career at the giant WME looking after tours for Britney Spears, and M.I.A. She then left for a stint in A&R at Capitol Records, taking on projects for artists like Katy Perry, Beck, and Sky Ferreira. During the interview we spoke about what it’s like to start in the mail room at William Morris, working with unique artists, the importance of the artist being involved with marketing themselves, her view on Web3, and much more. I spoke with Talya via zoom from her office in the Los Angeles. On the intro I’ll take a look at why playlists might not be as important as you think, and the reason why proper metadata is essential for your songs. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 83648412, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };