We discussed: - Teaching photography in Pakistan - Being an artist that uses photography - The pleasure and burden of writing the textbook for photography - The state of Arts Academia - The unsustainable costs of exhibiting art     People + Places mentioned: - Arts Envoy - https://exchanges.state.gov/us/program/arts-envoy - The Midpeninsula Free University - http://midpeninsulafreeu.com - Minor White - https://www.moma.org/artists/6342 - Doc Edgerton - https://edgerton-digital-collections.org - Pearson Education - https://www.pearson.com/us/higher-education/program/London-Photography-12th-Edition/PGM334461.html - Bart Parker - https://www.artic.edu/artists/36132/bart-parker - Ian Van Coller - https://www.ianvancoller.com - Meggan Gould - https://www.meggangould.net - Patrick Manning - https://www.instagram.com/patrickcraigmanning - Karl Baden - https://www.instagram.com/karl_baden - Louise Lawler - https://www.moma.org/artists/7928   http://jimstone.com     Audio engineering by Mickey at CushAudio Services Music by Peat Biby     Supported in part by: EEA Grants from Iceland, Liechtenstein + Norway – https://eeagrants.org               And we appreciate the assistance of our partners in this project: Hunt Kastner – https://huntkastner.com + Kunstsentrene i Norge – https://www.kunstsentrene.no