The Mother Daughter Journey

Kelly & Abigail White

Welcome! We are Kelly and Abigail White - mother and daughter, but also best friends and more. Let's just say, we've been through some sticky stuff. All relationships can be difficult, but the Mother-Daughter dynamic presents a whole new level of obstacles to overcome. It is SO worth it though! Join us as we share our stories of trials, triumphs, failures, and growth. We'll be diving into the hard topics and having some fun, all while learning to have better conversations and start seeing each other as women and individuals. read less
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Episodes

Shifting from 'What If' to 'What Is'
Mar 13 2024
Shifting from 'What If' to 'What Is'
***If you haven't listened to our last episode - "Looking at High School through a Neurodivergent Lens" - we recommend checking that out first!***It's SO easy to get caught up in the "what ifs" of life. As parents, we can easily fall into this trap not just with ourselves, but with our children as well. ~ What if they don't pass that class? ~ What if they don't get into a good college? ~ What if they don't get a well-paying job and struggle to make ends meet?As common and valid as these fears are, focusing on the negative "What Ifs" adds an extra layer of pressure and stress. For some of us, it can even send us into a spiral of anxiety and depression. It can easily happen to us and our teens.So, how do we shift this focus? By following up your "What Ifs" with "Why?"~ Why am I afraid of them not passing that class?~ Why do I believe getting into a good college is the only/correct path?~ Why do I feel like a well-paying job will = success/happiness for my child?Then, once you've come up with answers, ask yourself "Why?" again. And again. And again. Channel your inner toddler and keep asking yourself the same question. The answers you come to will start to shift your focus from What Ifs to What Is.Once you move away from the 'what ifs' and focus on the 'what is', that's when shift happens! Tune into this week's episode to learn more about what we mean.If your teenage daughter is struggling with achieving all the "normal" high school things, this is an episode for you!Music composed and produced by: Ben Tackett https://www.upwork.com/freelancers/~0155f8866a94fb9405
Looking at High School Through a Neurodivergent Lens
Feb 28 2024
Looking at High School Through a Neurodivergent Lens
High school.It's a term that can bring to the surface a plethora of emotions and thoughts - some good, some bad, and some in between. Navigating this intricate web of emotions, relationships, academic pressures, and self-discovery in high school can feel like a rollercoaster with exhilarating highs and daunting lows. Basically, high school is A LOT for anyone.Next, let's look at the how most high schools are structured. They cater to the "normal" route that leads towards a single definition of "success" - a definition created by our society that is becoming increasingly difficult to obtain (which is a whole different can of worms!). In this fashion, we are almost setting our youths up for failure.Then, let's add in powerful tools that can be used for great evil: Social Media and the Internet. High schoolers today have no way of turning down the noise. To some degree, you could relate these teens' lives being on constant display to the pressures of fame.Finally, we mix in a little neurodivergence. As if the "normal" path wasn't difficult enough, now we are asking someone to follow it when it doesn't suit them or is even detrimental to their overall well-being. But, it's what is expected so we ask them to push on.I don't know about you, but when I look at it all like this, it looks like a recipe for disaster. At least I know it was for me (Abigail), and I know it is and has been for others.So, that's what our conversation today is all about! We dive into these subjects and share more about my own high school experience. We discuss what we would have done differently knowing what we know now. If your teenage daughter is struggling with achieving all the "normal" high school things, this is an episode for you!Music composed and produced by: Ben Tackett https://www.upwork.com/freelancers/~0155f8866a94fb9405
It Takes a Village...and We've Found One!
Feb 17 2024
It Takes a Village...and We've Found One!
Okay everyone... this is a MUST listen!I mean if you were to ask us they are all "must listens", but if you are picking and choosing, CHOOSE THIS ONE!Today's episode is extra special for a few reasons:We introduce The ParenT(w)een Connection for this first time on The Mother Daughter Journey!It's our first time having 2 amazing guests at once!Our guests - Clarissa and Joe Constantine - are hilarious, a blast to be with, down to earth, and doing incredibly important work. We are SO lucky to have had this conversation with them! When we first started this podcast, a big reason behind this creation was to provide a space where mothers and daughters going through the tough transitions of a maturing relationship can just listen, be, and learn. Especially, though, we were hoping to provide comfort for those going through this transition while also learning to love all of themselves no matter what their brain chemistry is. This is the beauty of Clarissa and Joe and what they've created with The ParenT(w)een Connection. Thanks to them and all the professionals they are working with, we now have a judgment-free zone where parents and other members of 'the village' can connect with each other & with pros to support each other and your t(w)eens. I mean, how awesome is that???!!! The ParenT(w)een Connection is something we wish we had at the time, and we are so excited to be a part of something that can help others that are going through similar situations.So, with all that being said, join us! Not only do we dive more into what The ParenT(w)een Connection is and how it can help, but you also get a sneak peek inside the brilliant and beautiful minds and lives of the people who have created it.Of course this wouldn't be The Mother Daughter Journey if we didn't talk about Clarissa's: Relationship with her mother as a childHow it did and didn't shift as they grewHow her relationship with her mother impacted who and where she is todayPLUS! We get to hear from Joe and his observations on the effect Clarissa's relationship with her mother had on their relationship and others.Seriously. We know this is a longer than usual episode, but it is SO WORTH IT!Where to find more information on The ParenT(w)een Connection and learn more about Joe and Clarissa:The ParenT(w)een Connection WebsiteTheir Facebook GroupOn InstagramMusic composed and produced by: Ben Tackett https://www.upwork.com/freelancers/~0155f8866a94fb9405
Creating Boundaries and Releasing Expectations with Special Guest
Jan 19 2024
Creating Boundaries and Releasing Expectations with Special Guest
You hear us say it all the time - the mother & daughter relationship is SO complex. But within that complexity is beauty, friendship, love, and an opportunity for growth. And we are so excited because our guest today shares with us experiences that perfectly exemplify this fact. Chris Dyer is the Most Valuable Partner (MVP) for Women 40+ and shows them how to create greater vitality, visibility and success in life and business. She is absolutely one of the best models for resilience, growth, and living in your integrity - we just had to have her on!Join us today as Chris shares more about her relationship with her mother and her grown daughter. Together, we dive into discussions around:What we inherit from our mothers - both the amazing and the not-so-amazing.How we can unpack that inherited trauma and learn to see our mothers as individuals with their own struggles and joysReleasing expectations for our mothers and our daughters to be or act a certain wayHow leadership plays a role in the mother & daughter relationshipHow to lead by example and be a model for change in our relationshipsAnd SO much more!Seriously friends, this episode is chock-full of goodies to take home with you. I'm sure you'll walk away with many tidbits to digest, but my favorite is:Expectations are just future resentments. Were you blown away by Chris' wisdom like we were? Then you definitely need to hear more of what she talks about. To learn more about Chris Dyer, you can:Visit her website: https://www.chrisdyerconsulting.com/Follow her on Facebook or Instagram ORConnect with her on LinkdIn
Finding Individuality in your Relationship
Dec 8 2023
Finding Individuality in your Relationship
Something we talk about often as one of the many, many things that make the Mother-Daughter relationship so complex is its innate codependent nature. As both parties grow, a degree of separation is need to maintain individuality. Why? Because Mom isn't just Mom, and a daughter is more than just a daughter. You're each people, and it can be really hard to shift that lens. This is such a sticky but important topic, which is why we are SO excited about today's episode!Joining us in our discussion is someone we both really look up to, and another good friend of ours: Alicia Mastrangelo - Founder of Live It Love It Wellness.Alicia helps women with high-functioning anxiety who are ready to give up people-pleasing and self-sacrificing, tap into their intuition, prioritize themselves, and live life on their terms with more joy, ease and flow. I do this through energy work, intuitive guidance, and handmade reiki-infused jewelry and art.Trust us. She is an expert at what she does. So, make sure to tune in to today's insightful conversation to learn things from Alicia such as: How her MD relationship transitioned from childhood into adulthood How her MD relationship shifted once mother passed How people pleasing plays a role in the MD relationship How the MD relationship ripples out to all others and first forms your identity.And so much more! There are many good tidbits to nibble on, so dive on in!If you want to learn more about Alicia Mastrangelo, you can follow her on social media or check out her website:https://www.liveitloveitwellness.com/Alicia's Facebook PageAlicia's Instagram PageMake sure to follow our latest episodes and share the episode link below with anyone you know who needs to hear it!https://player.captivate.fm/episode/fe9e999f-025b-4e5e-b697-75fcd5ac93ecYou can get more tips and goodies if you follow us on social media:FacebookInstagramTikTokMusic composed and produced by:Ben Tackett https://www.upwork.com/freelancers/~0155f8866a94fb9405
Welcome our First Guest Ever!
Nov 17 2023
Welcome our First Guest Ever!
This week's episode is something really special to us. Not only did we get the pleasure of speaking with the AMAZING Gaelen Abt, but we got to celebrate her the very first guest on The Mother Daughter Journey Podcast!Children come through you. They are not for you; they come through you. ~Gaelen AbtThese are just a few of the many words of wisdom we received from the Intuitive Transformation Guide and founder of Venture Into Change. Seriously, this woman is brilliant! Plus she has been such an inspiration to both of us on our individual journeys and the one we've been taking together.Not only that, but Gaelen so bravely shares some of her own story and struggles with motherhood. So, you'll definitely want to tune in to this week's episode for so many more nuggets of wisdom. You'll get to hear her take on questions such as:What does the mother-daughter relationship mean to you, and how has that changed over time?How was your relationship with your mother growing up different from how your relationship with your daughter has been?What does it mean to 'Consciously Create' your relationships?What is an Intuitive Transformation Guide, and what lead you to becoming one?How has stepping into yourself affected your relationships?What is your favorite modality that you use with clients to help them fully step into their true selves?As you know, we are HUGE proponents of taking the time to discover, honor, and love yourself in your entirety. It's the individual journey that will allow your relationships (particularly your mother-daughter ones!) to flourish.So, if you loved what Gaelen had to say and want to hear more, you can find her:On her website: ventureintochange.comOn FacebookOn InstagramMention in this episode: How To Talk To Kids Will Listen...And Listen So Kids Will TalkMake sure to follow our latest episodes and share the episode link below with anyone you know who needs to hear it!https://player.captivate.fm/episode/db343bf0-266e-4c63-a1d3-c9c0db4d6598You can get more tips and goodies if you follow us on social media:FacebookInstagramTikTokMusic composed and produced by:Ben Tackett https://www.upwork.com/freelancers/~0155f8866a94fb9405
Navigating Healing and Ego in Mother-Daughter Relationships
Jun 28 2023
Navigating Healing and Ego in Mother-Daughter Relationships
This week, Abigail and I explore two major components of our mother-daughter journey. The impact they have on the mother-daughter relationship is significant. I would venture to say on any relationship, but here we talk about the mother-daughter one. Join us as we jump into healing and ego. We peel back the layers of pain, scars, and learned behavior that have impacted our relationship. It hasn’t been easy, but we’ve realized that healing is crucial to our journey. Get ready for some “real talk”, personal stories, and how we embraced the healing process together. We also dive headfirst into ego and how it affects the way we connect. It brings defensiveness, judgment, and the constant struggle to be right. Don’t worry, ego can be tamed. It’s all about embracing imperfections and finding common ground. So, we do our best to check our ego at the door when navigating our relationship.Guess what? Our journey is far from over, healing and ego work are ongoing processes, and so are we! Mentioned in this episode: I’m Sensitive by JewelMake sure to follow our latest episodes and share the episode link below with anyone you know who needs to hear it!https://player.captivate.fm/episode/570cf5dd-bf1b-4755-b466-f33b4b4d312cYou can get more tips and goodies if you follow us on social media:FacebookInstagramTikTokMusic composed and produced by:Ben Tackett https://www.upwork.com/freelancers/~0155f8866a94fb9405
Finding Meaning in the Music
Apr 18 2023
Finding Meaning in the Music
Have you ever found yourself listening to a song that seems to have been created just for you? The lyrics speak to you, and they help you speak with others. This happens for us all the time! In today's episode we share how music has not only been a bonding tool for us as a shared passion, but also how it has been an extremely helpful conversation tool. Not just music, but all types of written word and art in general! Songs Mentioned in This Episode:"All I Know So Far" ~ performed by P!nk/written by Benj Pasek, Justin Paul & Alecia Moore ***Note*** I accidentally mistitled this song in the episode as 'Until the world blows up" (that's the lyric my brain always goes to first) 🤦‍♀️"Toxic Thoughts" ~ performed & written by Faith Marie"Turbulence" ~ performed by P!nk/written by Madison Love & Matthew Koma"Jezebel" ~ performed by 10,000 Maniacs/written by Natalie Merchant"Belief" ~ performed by Ben Fankhauser/ written by Alexander Sage Oyen"This Is Me" ~ performed by Keala Settle/ written by Benj Pasek & Justin PaulAlso mentioned in this episode (kind of):Artwork by Shawn Coss ~ Inktober Illness Series IIMake sure to follow for the latest episodes and share the episode link below with anyone you know needs to hear it!https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d6a08316-99d7-4602-be57-9be61c6ef1de/Music-edited.mp3You can get more tips and goodies if you follow us on social media:FacebookInstagramTikTokMusic composed and produced by:Ben Tackett https://www.upwork.com/freelancers/~0155f8866a94fb9405