How would you define extremism? Elizabeth Neumann knows a thing or two about the subject after serving as a homeland security official during the Trump and George W. Bush administrations. During her time in this role, she witnessed extremism transform from something happening overseas to a domestic, online threat. On this week’s episode, she sits down with Patrick to define extremism and radicalization, identify the types of people vulnerable to radicalizing, and explain why extremist ideas also threaten the church. Plus, find out how she got involved with the Trump administration, why she left, and the troubling ways in which Trump’s character prompted potential threats. Most importantly, Elizabeth issues a challenge for Christians, noting that our hope must not be in America, but in the church itself. Listen now! Help us help people find great churches! Does your church choose truth over tribe? Tell us about it! Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏 Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter. Resources The Effect of President Trump’s Election on Hate Crimes  Hate Crimes in US Reach Highest Level In More Than A Decade El Paso Shooting Suspect’s Manifesto Echos Trump’s Language  ‘No Blame?’ ABC News Finds 54 Cases Invoking ‘Trump’ In Connection With Violence, Threats, Alleged Assaults  Playing the Political Long Game with David French  Buy the Truth Over Tribe Book  Bonus Resources from the Book  Subscribe to the TOT Newsletter