Everybody thinks they know a narcissist, but what if you’re one too? What if, deep down, we all have a bit of narcissism in us? It’s easy to throw the term around and try to diagnose others, but what is a true narcissist? That’s what we cover on this episode of Truth Over Tribe when Patrick sits down with Chuck DeGroat. Chuck is a Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. He’s also a licensed therapist and author of the recent book, “When Narcissism Comes to Church.” Listen as he provides a true definition of narcissism, distinguishing between grandiose and vulnerable forms of narcissism. Plus, if narcissism is on a spectrum, are we all a bit of a narcissist after all? And how does your enneagram type correlate with narcissistic tendencies? Plus, what are the damages of narcissistic church leaders and what does he hope changes in evangelicalism over the next decade? Listen now! Help us help people find great churches! Does your church choose truth over tribe? Tell us about it! Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏 Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter. Resources Buy the Truth Over Tribe Book Bonus Resources from the Book  Subscribe to the TOT Newsletter  Buy the When Narcissism Comes to Church Book Buy the Falling into Goodness Book