Chad Karger: Counseling Musicians & Other Creatives

The Paul Cardall Podcast

Aug 10 2022 • 1 hr 2 mins

On the forty-eighth episode of All Heart with Paul Cardall, Paul is joined by Chad Karger, a former pastor turned counselor specializing in Behavioral Health Therapy. Chad is part of Porter’s Call, a place where some of the music industry's most successful recording artists and touring musicians can find counsel, support, and encouragement, specifically attuned to their unique profession. Paul and Chad are joined by Mark Mabry, a photographer turned artist. Chad discusses how his clients find redemption before and after an artist hits rock bottom. They talk about the struggles touring musicians have separating the illusions of fame and the reality of life. Chad offers advice for new artists and veterans. The discussion applies to anyone who has a busy schedule and how to navigate life so it's more joyful and in the moment.

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After serving as a pastor and church planter for more than 20 years, Chad now serves as a Porter at Porter's Call ( in Franklin, Tennessee. He is the founder and advises the work of BetterDays ( He holds a Masters in Counseling and has used his passion and skills to connect people to truth, grace, and to facilitate transformation through spiritual direction and counseling. He is the author of Go Outside (Lucid Books) and To Become One (Relevant) among other projects. He has been married for more than 25 years, lives in Franklin, Tennessee, and has a daughter and two sons