Trish Kinane knows talent when she sees it. As executive producer of American Idol and America’s Got Talent, having previously been in charge of the US version of X Factor USA, this British showrunner is one of the leading executives in American television.

She describes how she got there in this engrossing chat with Lauren, who made her own breakthrough to fame as a TV talent show contestant. In this episode you will learn how such shows come together, why the talent pool never dries up, and what kind of support contestants get with press, social media and the psychology of fame.