In this episode Alan talks to Lisa Domican.

Lisa is a trainer, communicator and co-creator of the Grace App Picture Exchange system to help non verbal people, especially those with autism to communicate with pictures on an iPhone, iPad/iPod Touch.

Lisa is a parent to two autistic adults with very high needs.

In this fascinating and uplifting talk,  Lisa talks to Alan about services for her children and what it meant when none were available during lockdown. She also describes her journey in developing the Grace App, a picture exchange system to help non-verbal people communicate.