“What do some of the most prominent and successful Indigenous artists, leaders and professors have in common? They aren’t Indigenous. There are hundreds of cases of Indigenous identity fraud that we know about, and likely thousands that we do not. So why do these so-called “pretendians” do it? How do they pull it off? And what happens when they are exposed?” (From the Pretendians Podcast Description) My jaw dropped multiple times while visiting with Robert Jago (Kwantlen First Nation & Nooksack) & Angel Ellis (Muscogee (Creek) Nation), the hosts of the hot new podcast, Pretendians. In this episode you’ll especially learn about "Grand Chief" Guillaume Carle, “a French Canadian who made a small fortune creating his own fake First Nation and issuing phony Indian Status Cards to thousands of other identity thieves.” Pretendians are individuals who are non-Native, but pose as Native in order to gain attention and often times, money and fame. Enjoy this 2-part cringy ride as Robert and Angel expose some of the most notorious pretendians. And they’ll also share their own stories and that of their ancestors too! Native ChocTalk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/nativechoctalkpodcast All Podcast Episodes: https://nativechoctalk.com/podcasts/