To prevent a severe supply shock, EU ministers have agreed to reduce natural gas consumption by 15% between August and next March. Ukraine’s neighbor Poland was initially opposed to the deal, though has now approved it, and its deputy foreign minister joins the program from Warsaw. Also on today's show: former US Ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor; author Lindsey Fitzharris; contributing writer for the The Atlantic Tom Nichols. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices