The Deal With Animals with Marika S. Bell

Marika S. Bell

Humans interact with animals every day of our lives: diet, wildlife, the clothes they wear, even medicines, are all intersections. This is a podcast about Anthrozoology: the study of interaction and connection between humans and non-human animals.Our mission is to make research more accessible the public while sharing the voices and lived experience of our human connection with animals. www.thedealwithanimals.com

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82: Expanding Understanding in Canine Behavior Evaluations with Suzanne Clothier (Part 2) S8
Nov 20 2023
82: Expanding Understanding in Canine Behavior Evaluations with Suzanne Clothier (Part 2) S8
"I prefer to ask people, have you had dogs before?  What did you love about them? If you could pull those qualities from that dog, the things you love most about him, what were they? And if you'd had a magic wand what would I like to just tweak a little bit."  - Suzanne ClothierEpisode 8 of series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript ( Part2)Have you ever wondered what goes into assessing shelter animals and adopting the perfect pet? We sat down with Suzanne Clothier, an expert in the field, to unravel the complexities and nuances of animal assessments. Our discussion delves into her unique animal assessment tools - CARAT, RAT, and FAT, and how they contribute to understanding  behavior. We also take an in-depth look at how our emotions and biases can affect our decisions when it comes to selecting our next four legged-family member.Guest: Suzanne Clothier has worked with animals professionally since 1977, with a background includes obedience, agility, puppy testing, breeding, Search and Rescue, conformation, instructing, kennel management and AAT.Her Relationship Centered Training™ approach blends science and heart to create humane, effective and practical solutions for dogs and the people who work with them, whether professional working dogs or couch warming companions. Her suite of assessment tools provide a powerful framework for trainers and organizations:RAT™ (Relationship Assessment Tool) – handler/dog dynamics, rapid assessment plus ability to track and compareCARAT™ (Clothier Animal Response Assessment Tool) – temperament assessment on 6 categories, 21 dimensionsFAT™ (Functional Assessment Tool, release in 2022) – global of functionality/welfare assessment across physiological, social and cognitive dimensionsBook Recommendations: Kinship with All Life by J. Allen Boone and  Behaving As If the God in All Life Mattered by Machaelle Small Wright and An Immense World by Ed YongOther Links: Meet Your MatchHome to Home ProgramShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
81: Expanding Understanding in Canine Behavior Evaluations with Suzanne Clothier (Part 1) S8
Nov 6 2023
81: Expanding Understanding in Canine Behavior Evaluations with Suzanne Clothier (Part 1) S8
"So I'm asking very different questions in how I set up the test, because I want to know what is your native response here? Not a trained response, not a prompted response. I'm not begging you or just simply orienting you to me because I'm doing something. I want to know what you do if I just do my thing and you're in the same space. So the questions are different automatically." - Suzanne Clothier Episode 7 of Series 8 (Part 1) Transcript Ever wondered why dogs behave the way they do? Understanding the nuances of the right questions to ask can dramatically influence the lives of shelter animals and their adoption success. Suzanne's  insights will change your perspective on how you think about canine evaluations. We'll introduce you to Suzanne's innovative assessment tool that simplifies understanding temperament, aiding those in the shelter industry to make more informed decisions. he challenges of working in a shelter can be immense. From matching a dog to the right forever home, to making the difficult choice of euthanasia due to limited resources. Learn how asking the right questions and understanding the psyche of our canine companions can make all the difference. With Suzanne's tools such as the Animal Response Assessment Tool, Relationship Assessment Tool, and the new Functional Assessment Tool, we'll explore how to navigate these complexities, ensuring more successful adoptions and happier shelter dogs. Tune in for a deep dive into  the challenges shelter workers face, and the incredible difference they can make in the lives of our furry friends.Guest: Suzanne Clothier has worked with animals professionally since 1977, with a background includes obedience, agility, puppy testing, breeding, Search and Rescue, conformation, instructing, kennel management and AAT.Her Relationship Centered Training™ approach blends science and heart to create humane, effective and practical solutions for dogs and the people who work with them, whether professional working dogs or couch warming companions. Her suite of assessment tools provide a powerful framework for trainers and organizations:RAT™ (Relationship Assessment Tool) – handler/dog dynamics, rapid assessment plus ability to track and compareCARAT™ (Clothier Animal Response Assessment Tool) – temperament assessment on 6 categories, 21 dimensionsFAT™ (Functional Assessment Tool, release in 2022) – global of functionality/welfare assessment across physiological, social and cognitive dimensionsBook Recommendations: (see part 2)!Other Links: Chess and Thomas Jerome KaganShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
80: Feline Mysteries: An Exploration into "The Magic of Cats" with Writer, Andrew Anderson (October Special #2?!)
Oct 30 2023
80: Feline Mysteries: An Exploration into "The Magic of Cats" with Writer, Andrew Anderson (October Special #2?!)
They are so magical and meaningful, and I mean magical in the magical sense. I mean, just as in open your eyes and look at them. Just look at what they are doing and there is difficulty and there is hardship in their lives, but they just carry on.- Andrew AndersonOctober Special #2 Transcript Today, we have a  guest who is here to share insights about his new book, "The Magic of Cats." With a background in creative writing and an adventure into the realm of Celtic bear gods, Andrew Anderson takes us on a fascinating journey exploring the complex world of cat symbolism, from ancient Egyptian beliefs to the association between cats and witchcraft. He challenges stereotypes surrounding cats and offers a fresh perspective on these beloved creatures, inviting us to see them as more than just enigmatic familiars.We'll also be navigating the intriguing history of cats, particularly the dark superstitions that have surrounded and impacted them over the years. Andrew will guide us through the complex legacy of this history on the cats we adore today, shedding light on the unjust persecution of black cats. Get ready to journey through various spiritual practices associated with cats, their portrayal in literature, and the important role they play in Islamic and Chinese cultures. Guest: After trying a number of spiritualties, Andrew discovered Druidry in 2015. He is currently studying the Druid grade with the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids. He moved to Stratford-upon-Avon in 1996 and has lived there ever since. He has recently retrained as an Environmental Manager to put his love of nature and the environment to practical use . Andrew loves story-telling in all its forms, whether it be poetry, novels, theatre, film or TV. He enjoys going to open mic events, reading his poetry and hearing the work of others. He loves working with the spirit of a place and loves spending time in the nearby Cotswold hills. He doesn't have any children but does have two cats, who are just as much of a handful!  @ajanderson72 on InstagramBook Recommendations:  Watership Down: A Novel by Richard Adams and A Black Fox Running by Brian CarterOther Links:E9: October Special! Ornithomancy: Birds a…E18: Breaking Stereotypes and Talking Abou…Show Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
79: Redefining Monsters and Heroes: A Talk with Author, Daniel Kraus (October Special #1?!))
Oct 23 2023
79: Redefining Monsters and Heroes: A Talk with Author, Daniel Kraus (October Special #1?!))
October Special! Transcript Have you ever imagined finding yourself inside the belly of a whale, like a bizarre narrative pulled straight out of myth or biblical lore? Allow us to lead you through a captivating conversation with celebrated author Daniel Kraus, as he unravels the themes of his latest gripping novel, Whalefall, a survival tale set inside a sperm whale. Get ready to probe into the blurred lines between monsters and heroes, and comprehend the profound ways our understanding of the world is shaped by the intricate connections we share with animals.Guest: DANIEL KRAUS (he/him) is the New York Times bestselling author of more than a dozen novels and graphic novels. He coauthored The Living Dead with legendary filmmaker George A. Romero. With Guillermo del Toro, he coauthored The Shape of Water, based on the same idea the two created for the Oscar-winning film. Also with del Toro, Kraus coauthored Trollhunters, which was adapted into the Emmy-winning Netflix series. He has won two Odyssey Awards (for Rotters and Scowler), and The Death and Life of Zebulon Finch was named one of Entertainment Weekly’s Top 10 Books of the Year. His books have been Library Guild selections, YALSA Best Fiction for Young Adults picks, Bram Stoker finalists, and more. His work has been translated into over twenty languages. Daniel lives with his wife in Chicago. Visit him at DanielKraus.com.Book Recommendation: Men, Women, and Chain Saws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film by Carol J. Clover  and The Plague Dogs by Richard Adams and Fathoms: The World in the Whale by Rebecca GiggsOther Links: E6: Dog Bites: The Fallout and Emotional Toll wit…E19: Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law- A Cha…The Atlas Obcsura PodcastShe Wore Black PodcastShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
78: Speeding Up the System with Kristen Hassen (S8)
Oct 9 2023
78: Speeding Up the System with Kristen Hassen (S8)
It is not about animals. It is not about people. There is not a increase in cruelty and neglect in this country. There is not an increase in horrible dogs. The system is lower functioning than it's been in a long time. It's moving more slowly and it never really worked in the first place. - Kristen Hassen Episode 6 of Series 8 TranscriptIn this episode we dive headfirst into the complexities of animal shelters while also shedding light on the systemic issues that animal shelters battle. We'll delve into the delicate balance within the shelter system, as the staff strive to serve both the animals and the public.Guest: Over the previous decade, I’ve led three, large, government animal shelters in major U.S. cities. I’ve demonstrated that effectively leading animal services agencies requires a careful balance among five elements: public health and safety, lifesaving outcomes, community programs, humane care, and cost efficiency. I believe the most successful animal shelters engage their entire community in solutions, opening their doors, making it easy to help, and celebrating every single person who helps lost and homeless pets. Today, I provide consultation and support services to many of the nation’s largest and most high-profile animal shelters. I also lead projects and provide consultative services to numerous national organizations including Petco Foundation, Pedigree Foundation, Banfield Foundation, VCA Charities, and Best Friends Animal Society.Book Recommendations:  All About Love: New Visions by Bell Hooks and The Lives and Deaths of Shelter Animals: The Lives and Deaths of Shelter Animals by Katja M. GuentherOther Links: The Netherlands: Worlds First Country with Zero Stray Dogs-Outcomes for Pets with Kristen Hassen44: Animals and Domestic Violence with Theres…49: The Culture of Free Living Dogs wit…Show Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
77: The Unhoused Pet Crisis: Co-Sheltering with Jesse Casement and Jessica Gercke (S8)
Sep 25 2023
77: The Unhoused Pet Crisis: Co-Sheltering with Jesse Casement and Jessica Gercke (S8)
Episode 5 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering TranscriptDiscover a groundbreaking initiative between Father Joe's Villages and Helen Woodward Animal Center. This unique collaboration is changing the sheltering landscape and enhancing the lives of both humans and animals by allowing individuals experiencing homelessness to stay with their beloved pets.We delve into the concept of co-sheltering, a lifeline to individuals grappling with financial hardship, especially in the wake of the pandemic. We're joined by Jesse Casement, Division Director of Client Services at Father Joe's Villages and Jessica Gercke, Peer Director at Helen Woodward Animal Center. as we discuss the importance of comforting both humans and their furry family members in times of crisis. Guests: Jesse Casement has dedicated her past 13 years with the largest service provider in San Diego to supporting San Diegans experiencing homelessness. In that time, she has championed the progressive view that shelters should welcome pets along with their humans — a policy that, for many neighbors in need, has been truly life-changing.  Jesse has fostered relationships with local animal welfare organizations and veterinary providers in order to bring resources, education, and support to the clients living at Father Joe’s Villages with their animals, as well as to the Father Joe’s Villages staff who strive to create a welcoming and safe environment for people and their pets.  Apart from her role at Father Joe’s Villages, Jesse is a member of the Co-Sheltering Collaborative, a peer-to-peer learning network focused on sheltering people and their animals together. Jessica Gercke has spent over 25 years creating and refining media/publicity campaigns for a wide variety of professional industries. Through it all, her heart and soul belonged to animals.  She has put her knowledge of marketing and publicity to work for Helen Woodward Animal Center over the last 11 years.  This work means that she has been surrounded by animals every day for the last 4,000 days and involved in highlighting the programs that rely on the incredible bond between people and pets.   Sharing these unique stories with the world has been the happiest joy of her life thus far.Book Recommendations: Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro The Housemaid's Secret by Freida McFadden and Other Links: E18: Breaking Stereotypes and Talking Abou…E22: Ecofeminism and Entangled Empathy wit…Show Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
76: Staying Curious: Empowerment and Change in the Dog Training Community with Grisha Stewart and Laurie C. Williams (Special Episode!)
Sep 15 2023
76: Staying Curious: Empowerment and Change in the Dog Training Community with Grisha Stewart and Laurie C. Williams (Special Episode!)
September Special Episode! With Grisha Stewart, best know for her book Ahimsa Dog Training, BAT, and The Grisha Stewart Academy, as well as the remarkable, Laurie C. Williams (The Dog Diva), who has seen it all in her 35 years of dog training.  There has been  dramatic transformations the dog training industry over the past few decades, from the use of aversives to the kinder and more empowering positive reinforcement methods. Eager to learn how trainers have navigated this shift and still manage to communicate effectively with dogs? You're in the right place. This episode is a sneak preview to September 20th's  virtual rendezvous of renowned dog trainers and behavior experts like Chirag Patel, Debbie McMullen, Jordan Shelley, Laurie Williams, and Michael Shikashio, all gathered for a candid and captivating canine confab. Join in on September 20th at 10 am Pacific Time in Zoom at the Grisha Stewart Academy for this invaluable discussion.  Don't miss out; fetch your spot at http://school.grishastewart.com/courses/shift today!Book Recommendations: Transformation Through Intimacy, Revised Edition: The Journey toward Awakened Monogamy by  Robert Augustus Masters and All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten: Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things by  Robert FulghumOther Links:E6: Dog Bites: The Fallout and Emotional Toll wit…E13: Conservation Detection Dogs with Kayl…E27: Summer Special! with Clive Wynne Its al…36: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: wit…Show Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
75: Engage the Public in Your Mission: 5 Strategies with Writer, Arin Greenwood (S8)
Sep 11 2023
75: Engage the Public in Your Mission: 5 Strategies with Writer, Arin Greenwood (S8)
Episode Four in Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering TranscriptHave you ever considered the power of storytelling in animal advocacy? We chat with Arin Greenwood, a passionate advocate for animal welfare and a riveting storyteller. In this conversation we explore Arin's experiences in animal welfare journalism, the strategies she employs to engage the community, and uncover the potential of her work to challenge restrictive pet laws. Arin unravels her favorite dog books, and we discuss about the importance of animals in our lives. Learn about the human-animal relationship through her eyes, and understand how accessible strategies (like nose-boops!) can connect animal shelters with their communities. Arin's passion for animals shines through her work, and her insights provide a refreshing perspective on animal advocacy. Guest: Arin Greenwood is an animal writer and former lawyer living in St. Petersburg, Florida. Arin was animal welfare editor for The Huffington Post. Her stories about cats, dogs, and other critters have been published in the Dodo, Today.com, the Washington Post, the American Bar Association Journal, Creative Loafing, Slate, and other publications. Arin now works in animal nonprofits. including Her novel Your Robot Dog Will Die was published by Soho Teen in 2018, and has been optioned by Centerboro Productions.Book Recommendations: Pit Bull: The Battle Over An American Icon by Bromwen Dickey and Lessons in Chemistry: A Novel by Bonnie GarmusShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
74:On The Move: Exploring Companion Animal Transport with Dr. Lori Jervis (S8)
Aug 28 2023
74:On The Move: Exploring Companion Animal Transport with Dr. Lori Jervis (S8)
Episode 3 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering TranscriptIn our discussion, we traverse through Dr. Jervis's intriguing research (Along with Collaborator Laura Bray) on relocating companion animals from the overpopulated regions of the Southern US to the North, a mission that's changing the landscape of animal welfare. We discuss the complexities that exist between the preferences of potential adopters and the available animals, and the compelling need some feel to act as rescuers. Guest: Lori Jervis (PhD, FGSA) is a Professor of Anthropology and Co-Director of the Center for Applied Social Research at the University of Oklahoma. She is a medical and cultural anthropologist as well as a gerontologist. Her animal-related research includes free-roaming dogs in a tribal community and  relationships between Purple Martins and the “landlords” who care for them. Her most recent study focuses on the relocation of companion animals from the southern US to the North as a strategy for reducing space-related killing in shelters.  (Link to Her Research)Book Recommendations: The Human Manure Handbook by Joseph JenkinsFlight Ways: Life and Loss at the Edge of Extinction  byThom Van DoorenOther Links: 67: May Special!: Barking Up the Right Tree… 56: Friend-sheep with Guest Host Nanett…50: New Year's Special- Recognizing an…Show Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
73: Breaking Barriers: Unpacking Access, Attitudes, and Change in Animal Welfare with Ashley Anderson-Mutch (S8)
Aug 14 2023
73: Breaking Barriers: Unpacking Access, Attitudes, and Change in Animal Welfare with Ashley Anderson-Mutch (S8)
Episode 2 of Series 8: The World of Animal WelfareAshley's insights shed light on the complex challenges faced by underserved communities in the realm of animal welfare. However, it's not all grim. Ashley shares the transformative work being done by Pets for Life. The program extends its services to over 50 cities in the U.S., offering access to pet services for individuals living in poverty.Guest:  Ashley Anderson-Mutch is a Senior Program Manager of Enforcement and Policy Reform with Pets for Life at the Humane Society of the United States. She works with animal welfare organizations across the country to address areas of inequity with internal and external policies that disproportionately affect underserved communities and communities of color. She strives to help develop an understanding of the way in which animal welfare is connected to larger issues of institutional discrimination and historical oppression for people.She also works with several municipal shelter organizations and local animal enforcement teams to implement community based support practices.Book Recommendations: Stamped from the Beginning: A Graphic History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram X. Kendi and Joel Christian Gill and The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ KluneLinks: Pets for Life -MapIf you liked this episode, try:E26: Pets in Poverty: Pet Retention and Housing with Amanda Arrington, Senior Director or HSUS' Pets for LifeE24: Companion Animals for Reform and Equity with COO Jen EvansE28: Animal Care Deserts, Accessibility and Love with CARE CEO, James EvansShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
72: 7 Misunderstood Beliefs in Animal Welfare: Myth Busting with Scott Giacoppo (S8)
Jul 31 2023
72: 7 Misunderstood Beliefs in Animal Welfare: Myth Busting with Scott Giacoppo (S8)
Episode 1 of Series 8: The World of Animal ShelteringTranscriptEver thought about the misconceptions that surround nuisance wildlife management or how those misconceptions might be affecting policies and attitudes?  Join us for a compelling discussion with Scott Giacoppo, Director of National Shelter Outreach for Best Friends Animal Sanctuary."when you are talking about killing animals for population management, it has proven not to work, right? It doesn't work.  It never has, and it never will. And if it did work, we wouldn't have to repeat it every single year." - Scott Giacoppo Listen as we bust 7 myths and  underscore the need for shelters to build relationships with adopters, and discuss proactive ways to support existing pet owners. Through it all, Scott challenges us to reconsider our obligations to animals, the biases that might be clouding our judgment, and how we can all strive towards a more sustainable model of animal care. You don't want to miss this conversation, packed with thought-provoking insights and stories that will inspire you to redefine your relationship with the animal kingdom.Book Recommendation: Switch: How to Make Change When Change Is Hard- by Dan Heath and Chip HeathThe Five Dysfunctions of a Team: A Leadership Fable- by Patrick LencioniOther Links:Pets For LifeBear Releases in DC/MDIf you liked this episode try... E28: Animal Care Deserts, Accessibility and Love with CARE CEO, James EvansE29: Your Wild Neighbors with Alyssa EllisonE11: How to Be a Humane Gardener with Nancy Lawson, The Humane GardenerE18: Breaking Stereotypes and Talking About Cats with The TrapKing, Sterling DavisShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
70: Beyond Symbolism: Understanding Animals as Ancestors with Author, Ben Stimpson (S7)
Jun 19 2023
70: Beyond Symbolism: Understanding Animals as Ancestors with Author, Ben Stimpson (S7)
"...we have a very narrow view of what ancestors actually are. We, we tend to think of them only in terms of blood relations. Instead of the, the vastness of what could potentially be Ancestor." -Ben StimpsonEpisode 6 of Series 7: Animals and the Divine TranscriptWhat we Discuss: Uncover the fascinating connections between all species and their impact.Find out how to integrate animals into your spiritual journey for a more profound experience.Explore the idea of personhood for animals and its potential consequences.Delve into the importance of analyzing animal behavior without human-centric biases.Cultivate empathy and kindness towards the environment and its creatures.Beaver Testicles (I'm just gonna leave that there)...Guest: Born in North Wales but currently residing in Ontario, Canada, Ben Stimpson works as a skilled therapist in the field of narrative and spiritual psychotherapy. Through his practice, he assists individuals, particularly those in the queer community, in exploring their relationship with themselves, spirituality, and ancestral connections. Ben is also the accomplished author of Ancestral Whispers: A Guide to Building Ancestral Veneration Practices (Release Sept 8 2023) www.benstimpson.com Book Recommendation: Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Wall KimmererKey Moments: 00:04:00 - Ancestral Whispers Book, 00:08:11 - Animals as Ancestors, 00:14:39 - Clarifying Cultural Appropriation, 00:21:00 - Connecting with Animals as Ancestors 00:24:03 - Expanding the Concept of Ancestor 00:27:36 - Seeing Animals in a Spiritual Sense 00:31:51 - The Power of Storytelling, 00:33:12 - Our Complex Relationship with Animals, 00:35:04 - Genealogy and the Story of Life, 00:36:20 - Changing PerspectivesShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠Beginner Podcast Consulting Services⁠⁠⁠!⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/messageShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
69: Healing Paws: The Spiritual Impact of Therapy Dogs in Christian Ministries with Heather Frigiola (S7)
Jun 5 2023
69: Healing Paws: The Spiritual Impact of Therapy Dogs in Christian Ministries with Heather Frigiola (S7)
"This is a multispecies ethnography, so I'm not treating them like just objects or tools. I recognize that they're living beings with unique personalities."- Heather FrigiolaEpisode 5 of Season 7: Animals and the Divine TranscriptIn this episode, we dive into the fascinating world of Canine Ministries, where dogs serve alongside their owners in Christian social outreach. Discover the powerful impact of therapy dogs and their unique role in ministry work, as we explore personal stories of comfort, healing, and the remarkable connection between God, humans, and our four-legged friends. Guest: Heather Frigiola is an aspiring anthropologist and PhD candidate (ABD) at the University of Nevada - Las Vegas, specializing in the study of animals in human culture. Her doctoral dissertation focuses on canine ministries, unraveling the intricate relationship between humans and dogs within these unique religious contexts. With a background in lecturing and volunteering at renowned institutions, Heather brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to her research. Her interdisciplinary approach and passion for understanding human-animal interactions make her a valuable contributor to the field of animal anthropology. Stay tuned for her insights into the cultural significance of canine ministries and their impact on communities.Book Recommendation: The Sounds of Life: How Digital Technology Is Bringing Us Closer to the Worlds of Animals and Plants By Karen BekkerShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠Beginner Podcast Consulting Services⁠⁠!⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/messageShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
68: A Christian Perspective on Animal Ethics: Exploring Our Responsibilities Towards Other Creatures with Theologian, Dr. David Clough (S7)
May 22 2023
68: A Christian Perspective on Animal Ethics: Exploring Our Responsibilities Towards Other Creatures with Theologian, Dr. David Clough (S7)
"Animal killing looks like a very morally serious act. In those rules about sacrifice and consumption of animals in the Old Testament. And then animal sacrifice, is not saying that animal lives don't matter. It's saying quite reverse. Animals are somehow able to mediate nothing less than a sort of relationship between humans and the divine."- Dr. David CloughEpisode 4 of Series 7: Animal and the Divine TranscriptI'm talking to Dr. David Clough about Souls, Old Testament Animal Welfare, God's Original Vision, and the diversity of life. And why religion is not the problem when it comes to ethical questions and actions of a culture. Guest: David L. Clough is Professor in Theology and Applied Sciences at the University of Aberdeen. He is author of the landmark two-volume monograph On Animals (2012, 2019), on the place of animals in Christian theology and ethics. He is Principal Investigator for a three-year AHRC-funded project on the Christian Ethics of Farmed Animal Welfarein partnership with major UK churches, which in 2022 is working with educators to develop learning resources from the project for schools and theological colleges. He founded the DefaultVeg campaign, which promotes a simple policy shift to a vegetarian/vegan default for events catering, and co-founded of CreatureKind, an organization engaging Christians with farmed animal welfare. You can find him @DLClough on Twitter.Book Recommendation: Aphro-ism: Essays on Pop Culture, Feminism, and Black Veganism from Two Sisters by Aph Ko and Syl KoShow Credits⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠Beginner Podcast Consulting Services⁠!⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/messageShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
67: May Special!: Barking Up the Right Tree: Applied Ethology and the Human-Dog Connection with Kim Brophey
May 8 2023
67: May Special!: Barking Up the Right Tree: Applied Ethology and the Human-Dog Connection with Kim Brophey
Are we truly giving our furry companions the life they deserve? As pet owners, we often assume that we're providing a safe and comfortable environment for our dogs. However, in this thought-provoking podcast episode, certified dog behavior consultant and author Kim Brophey sheds light on the natural context of animals, particularly dogs, and the costs of captivity on their welfare.The May Special Episode! TranscriptGuest: Kim Brophey is an applied ethologist and the owner of The Dog Door Behavior Center in Asheville, NC. She is an award-winning dog trainer, a member of several professional associations, and a certified member of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants. Kim is known for her work on the L.E.G.S. model of integrated canine science, and her book, MEET YOUR DOG, has made her a respected voice in the dog behavior community.Book Recommendation: Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children From Nature-Deficit Disorder by Richard LouvShow CreditsGuest Profiles and Book RecommendationsWhat to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my Beginner Podcast Consulting Services!Become a Patron! Sign up for the Newsletter--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/messageShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
65: Useful Violence with Dr. Anat Ben-Yonatan (S7)
Apr 10 2023
65: Useful Violence with Dr. Anat Ben-Yonatan (S7)
Episode 2 of Series 7: Animals and The Divine TranscriptI'm talking to Anat Ben-Yonatan, a researcher at Tel Aviv University whose research is as fascinating as it is disturbing. But don't let that scare you away, We won't be going into any detailed descriptions of violence, but we are talking about animal slaughter for the purposes of kosher eating. However this research is less about what happens to the animals and more about the psychology and the place in Jewish society for the slaughterers themselves. Guest: Anat Ben-Yonatan is a social-sciences informed human-animal scholar and a Research Fellow at the "Coller-Menmon Program for Animal Rights and Welfare" in the Buchmann Faculty of Law, Tel Aviv University. She is the co-founder and a steering committee member of both the human-animal connections forum and of the community for human-animal studies (HASI) under the auspices of the Israeli Anthropological Association, which she also co-chairs since February 2022.Anat's Doctoral dissertation delved into the life and work of Jewish Israeli Shochtim (slaughterers), in which she looked, among other things, into their attitudes and feelings, as well as their moral schema in concern with shechitah (slaughter).Anat's main research interest include various forms of interspecies violence, with emphasis on legitimized versus non-legitimized violence of humans against nonhuman animals; and "the save movement" with its educational programs as possible paths to cope with these violent phenomena.Latest publications:Ben-Yonatan A. “The knife needs the intention of the heart” The construction of ethnic and moral boundaries in Israeli slaughterhouses. Ethnicities. April 2022. doi:10.1177/14687968221093715Anat Ben-Yonatan (2022) “Yesterday You Slaughtered Animals, Today You Pity Them”: Ambivalence and Resolution Among Jewish Israeli Slaughterers, Anthrozoös, 35:3, 355-370, DOI: 10.1080/08927936.2021.1996023Hirsch-Matsioulas, O., Ben-Yonatan, A., Chen, L., Sadetzki, Y., & Shir-Vertesh, D. (2022). Human-Animal Studies in Israel: A Field in the Making, Society & Animals (published online ahead of print 2022). doi: https://doi.org/10.1163/15685306-bja10095Book Recommendation: Dominion: The Power of Man, the Suffering of Animals, and the Call to Mercy by Mathew ScullyHost: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
64: Animals in World Religions with Author, Dr. Lisa Kemmerer (S7)
Mar 27 2023
64: Animals in World Religions with Author, Dr. Lisa Kemmerer (S7)
Episode 1 of Series 7: Animals and the Divine  TranscriptDr Lisa Kemmerer shares with us the role of animals in a wide range of religions. From deities, tricksters, shapeshifters, emblems and mora agents. Animals are truly one thing that all belief systems have in common.  We discuss the value of indigenous teachings and reciprocity and Lisa gives insight into how to write about religion as an outsider as well as how to engage with your own religion. She also gives us some exclusive insights into her upcoming website.Guest: Internationally known for her work in animal ethics, Dr. Lisa Kemmerer is the founder of the educational, vegan umbrella organization, Tapestry. With a Master of Theological Studies in Comparative Religions (Harvard) and a Ph.D. in philosophy (specializing in animal ethics at Glasgow University, in Scotland), Kemmerer taught for 20 years at the university level. She has written more than 100 articles/anthology chapters and 10 books, including In Search of Consistency, Animals and World Religions, Sister Species, and Eating Earth. Dr. K retired in July of 2020 to become a full-time social justice activist with Tapestry.Book Recommendation: Vegan Ethics: AMORE—Five Reasons to Choose Vegan by Dr. Lisa KemmererHost: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika BellRecording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/messageShow Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter
63: EVAT Mini-series (Part 6): Free-Living Cats and Farm Animal Sanctuaries a Round Table with Kris Hill and Dr. Jacqui Sadashige
Mar 13 2023
63: EVAT Mini-series (Part 6): Free-Living Cats and Farm Animal Sanctuaries a Round Table with Kris Hill and Dr. Jacqui Sadashige
Part 6: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 TranscriptI chat with both Kris Hill and Jacqui Sadashige about their research in Free Living cats and Farm Animal Sanctuaries respectively. And we talk about our takeways from The Emerging Voices For Animals in Tourism Conference. A fun and wide ranging discussion!Guest: Jacqui has a Ph.D. in Classical Studies from the University of Pennsylvania and an MA in Global Conservation from Miami University's Global Field Program. Her research interests include elephant tourism in Thailand and visitor engagement at farmed animal sanctuaries in the U.S. She is a lecturer in Gender Studies and Film at the University of Pennsylvania and Drexel University in Philadelphia. Book Recommendation: Saving Animals: Multispecies Ecologies of Rescue and Care by Elan Abrell and Esther the Wonder Pig: Changing the World One Heart at a Time by Steve Jenkins, Derek Walter, and Caprice CraneGuest: Kris is completing a PhD in Anthrozoology with the University of Exeter, UK. Her doctoral research focuses on cat-human relations within urban communities, and discourses surrounding free-roaming and free-living cats (Felis catus). Other academic areas of interests include morethanhuman families, griefwork, animal representations, and Mediterranean street cats and cat-human cultures.  A lifelong cat-lover, the majority or her travel photos have always included cats! Read more here: https://katzenlife.wordpress.com/Book Recommendation: Watership Down:A Novel by Richard Adams Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting authors, nonprofits, professionals, academics and enthusiasts about the various disciplines of Anthrozoology.Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika BellRecording and post production software by Show Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Mentoring Services⁠⁠⁠⁠! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron! ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for the Newsletter