Ben chats with engineering professor, Victor Zavala, and high school teacher, Olivia Dachel, about using videogames to teach kids, how science outreach can be useful 1 on 1 or with massive audiences through videogames, who inspired Victor to code, how to think like a systems engineer, how the kids like learning about agricultural runoff, and how donkeys may power the world one day.

To play the Lakeland video game-

https://fielddaylab.wisc.edu/play/lakeland/

Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts-

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deeper-than-data-with-ben-rush/id1556358203

Patreon-

https://www.patreon.com/deeperthandata

Twitter-

https://twitter.com/deeperthandata

Website-

www.deeperthandata.media

Facebook-

www.facebook.com/DeeperThanData