Keir Starmer says you can’t legislate your way out of a dispute with new laws against strikes.

But today on the News Agents we hear from the cabinet minister in charge of industrial relations.

Grant Shapps says it’s all about ensuring “minimum safety [and service] levels”. What does that even mean? And how does that work when we haven’t got enough people on the frontline anyway?

We discuss.

Socials: Georgia Foxwell

Video: Will Gibson-Smith

Planning: Alex Barnett

Production: Gabriel Radus

Deputy Editor: Tom Hughes

Executive Producer: Dino Sofos

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