David Heinemeier Hansson is a legend among the developer community. As the creator of Ruby on Rails and co-founder of Basecamp and HEY, he has helped revolutionize open-source developing and the software as a service industry. David is also a New York Times best-selling author, antitrust advocate, and startup investor – not to mention a Le Mans and WEC racing driver!

David joins Niko to share the story behind Ruby on Rails and how it went from a simple problem-solving venture to one of the most popular open-source web frameworks – used to create more than one million web apps, including big-name brands like Shopify, Github, Airbnb, Square, Twitch, and Zendesk. The pair also discuss the relationship between open-source ecosystems and blockchain/tokenomics, running a company remotely, and navigating pitching and investing.

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