Each talks about patriotism. Each talks about their strengths as leaders. But, the visions of America Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump are trying to bring to the country couldn't be more different. We look at how each is trying to win over undecided voters.

This episode: White House correspondents Deepa Shivaram & Franco Ordoñez, and senior national political correspondent Mara Liasson,

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