About the Episode

In the final episode of season 2, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover explores the role education plays in understanding global eco-anxiety and mitigating the climate crisis.

First up, Clover meets with Joe Brindle, founder of the Teach the Future campaign, to learn why our education on the climate crisis has been limited and whether or not it was a deliberate attempt to restrict awareness. We then hear from people around the world experiencing eco-anxiety and advocating for more educational resources on the topic; and finally, Leslie Madema, head of learning at Green School International, to understand what an educational system that prioritises teachings about sustainability and the climate crisis looks like.

Top Quotes

"Our climate education is particularly bad in the UK. The new curriculum changes have tried to push out anything remotely political but what that has done is push out anything societal. And that includes climate change." - Joe Brindle

"My problem with our education system is how it prioritises individualism; how well you'll do in an exam, how smart you are in a traditional way. And that individualism is missing a huge part of the community. Which is a problem because the climate crisis affects us as a society." - Leslie Madema

About the Guests

Joe Brindle is a 19-year-old climate activist and the founder of the Teach the Future campaign. Teach the Future is a youth-led campaign to urgently repurpose the entire education system around the climate emergency and ecological crisis in the UK.

Leslie Madema is head of learning for Green School International Bali. Green School International is a global education network, committed to creating a global community of learners, making the world sustainable.

Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis.

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