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E98 Episode 98: Part 1 of the Class of 1966
Dec 18 2023
E98 Episode 98: Part 1 of the Class of 1966
Episode Notes Part 1 of 3 on the Hockey Hall of Fame Class of 1966, featuring Toe Blake: 1934-48; 14 seasons, 12 quality Totals:235G (7th All Time at his retirement),294A (2nd All Time at his retirement - Cowley) for 529P (t-2nd All Time at his retirement - Cowley) in577 Games (18th All Time at his retirement);52.6 Point Shares (25th All time at his retirement);At his retirement, Blake was 18th All time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: At his retirement, Blake wasT-8th All Time in GPG (14 qualifying players)2nd All Time in PPG (4 qualifying players - Cowley, Stewart, Syd Howe);Blake doesn’t qualify for the APG leaderboard but if we lower the qualifier so he does (250A), at his retirement, Blake was2nd All Time in APG (5 qualifying players, Cowley, Boucher, Watson, Syd Howe)Era: Of the 13 skaters to play in at least 492 games (6 modern seasons) between 1934 and 1948, Blake is1st in Goals (by 31)1st in GPG2nd in Assists2nd in APG2nd in Points2nd in PPG2nd in Offensive Point Shares5th/4th Forward in Defensive Point Shares (9/8 qualifying Forwards)5th in Point Shares2nd in Games Played82-game average: 34G, 42A for 75P3-year peak (1942-45): 50-game average of 28G, 39A for 67PPlayoffs:25G (t-3rd All time at his retirement - Richard, Drillon)37A (1st All Time at his retirement) for62P (1st All Time at his retirement by 9P) in58 playoff Games (20th All Time at his retirement)Per Game: At his retirement, Blake was4th All Time in playoff GPG (Richard, Kennedy, Drillon - 7 qualifying players)2nd All Time in playoff APG (Lach - 3 qualifying players: Cowley)1st All Time (by .4) in playoff PPG (2 qualifying players: Apps)Era: Of the 46 skaters to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1934 and 1948, Blake isT-2nd in playoff Goals2nd in playoff GPG1st in playoff Assists1st in playoff APG (by .09)1st in playoff Points1st in playoff PPG (by .25)15th in playoff Games Played Frank Brimsek: 1938-43; 1945-50; 10 seasons, all as a starter Totals:252W (3rd All Time - 1st American - at his retirement - Broda, Thompson),182L (5th All Time - 1st American - at his retirement - Worters, Broda, Roach, Thompson),80T (3rd All Time - 1st American - at his retirement - Broda, Worters; 5th American All Time - Vanbiesbrouck, Miller, Barrasso, Quick);40 SO (11th All Time - 1st American - at his retirement);95.4 Point Shares (3rd All Time - 1st American at his retirement - Broda, Thompson) in31,230 Minutes (3rd All Time - 1st American at his retirement - Broda, Thompson) over514 GamesAverages:2.70 GAA (12th All Time at his retirement - 17 qualifying players)Era: Of the 14 goalies to play in at least 82 games between 1938 and 1950, Brimsek is1st in Wins1st/last in Losses2nd in Ties1st/last in Goals Against6th in GAA2nd in Shutouts1st in Minutes2nd in Point Shares1st in Games PlayedSeason average: 25-18-8; 4 Shutouts; 9.5 PS82-game average: 40-29-13; 6 Shutouts; 15.2 PSPlayoffs:32W (2nd All Time at his retirement - Broda, behind by 23),36L (t-1st/last All Time at his retirement);2 SO (t-16th All Time at his retirement) in4395 Minutes (2nd All Time at his retirement - Broda, behind by nearly 1400) over68 playoff Games (2nd All Time at his retirement - Broda, behind by 23);Averages:2.54 (t-10th All Time/last among qualifying players at his retirement)Era: Of the six goalies to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1938 and 1950, Brimsek is2nd in playoff Wins (behind by 19)1st/last in playoff Losses1st/last in playoff Goals AgainstT-4th (2nd last) in playoff GAAt-4th/last in playoff Shutouts2nd in playoff Minutes (behind by nearly 800 minutes)2nd in playoff Games Played (behind by 14) Babe Pratt: 1935-47; 12 seasons, 11 quality by DPS Totals:83G (17th/7th D All Time at his retirement),210A (2nd/1st D All Time at his retirement - Clapper) for293P (5th/2nd D All time at his retirement - Clapper, Goodfellow, Hollett, Siebert) in518 Games (12th/8th D All Time at his retirement);64.7 Point Shares (15th All Time at his retirement, 9th/7th D)At his retirement, Pratt was 8th/7th All Time in Defensive Point SharesAt his retirement, Pratt was the 12th/6th D All Time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: Obviously Pratt doesn’t qualify for any Per Game leaderboards but, if we lower the qualifiers so he does (75G, 200A, 275P), at his retirement, among D*, Pratt wast-16th/10th D All Time in GPG1st D All Time in APG (2 qualifying players - Clapper)4th/1st D All Time in PPG (4 qualifying players - Schmidt, Goodfellow, Clapper)Era: Of the 15 D* to play in at least 328 games (4 modern seasons) between 1935 and 1947, Pratt is5th/2nd in Goals7th/2nd in GPG1st in Assists (by 42/49)2nd/1st in APG1st in Points5th/2nd in PPG3rd/2nd in Offensive Points Shares1st in Defensive Point Shares2nd in Point Shares1st in Games82-game average: 13G, 34A for 47P3-year peak (1942-45): 50-game average of 16G, 32A for 48PPlayoffs:12G (3rd/1st D All Time at his retirement - Schmidt, Clapper),17A (3rd/2nd D All Time at his retirement - Hollett, Colville) for29P (t-2nd/2nd D All Time at his retirement - Hollett, Clapper) in63 playoff Games (5th/4th D All Time at his retirement - Clapper, Hollett, Horner, Seibert)Per Game: Obviously Pratt doesn’t qualify for the per game leaderboards, if we lower the qualifiers so he does (10G, 15A, 25P), at his retirement, among D, Pratt was2nd/1st D All Time in playoff GPG (Schmidt - 4 qualifying players: Seibert, Clapper)4th/2nd D All Time in playoff APG (Colville, Hollett, Schmidt - 5 qualifying players: Clapper)3rd/1st D All Time in playoff PPG (Colville, Schmidt - 5 qualifying players: Hollett, Clapper)Era: Of the 13 D* to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1935 and 1947, Pratt is2nd/1st in playoff Goals4th/2nd in playoff GPG2nd in playoff Assists (behind by 9)4th/3rd in playoff APG2nd in playoff Pointst-5th//3rd in playoff PPG2nd in playoff Games Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E97 Episode 97: Hall of Fame Class of 1967
Nov 20 2023
E97 Episode 97: Hall of Fame Class of 1967
Episode Notes Turk Broda: 1936-43, 1945-52; 14 seasons, 11 as a starter, 1 as a 1A Totals:304W (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1950 to 1958)222L (2nd All Time at his retirement)102T (19th All time, 1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1949 to 1955);61 SO (6th All Time at his retirement);120.4 PS (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1950 to 1956) in38,182 Minutes (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1950 to 1955) over629 Games (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1950 to 1955)Averages:2.53 GAA (11th All Time at his retirement)Era: Of the 11 goalies to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1936 and 1952, Broda is1st in Wins (by over 50)1st/last in Losses1st in Ties (by over 20)1st/last in Goals Against4th in GAA1st in Shutouts by over 201st in Minutes (by nearly 7,000)1st in Games (by 115)Season average: 22-16-7; 4 SO; 8.6 GPS82-game average: 40-29-13; 8 SO; 15.7 GPSPlayoffs:60W (17th All Time, 1st All Time at his retirement by nearly double - held the record from 1947 until 1969)39L (1st All Time at his retirement)13 SO (9th All Time, 1st All Time at his retirement by 44% - held the record from 1950 through 1969) in6,387 Minutes (19th All Time, 1st All Time at his retirement by nearly 2,000 - held the record from 1943 until 1970) over101 Games (20th All Time, 1st All Time a this retirement by 49% - held the record from 1943 until 1968);7th All Time at his retirementEra: Of the 9 goalies to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1936 and 1952, Broda is1st in playoff Wins (by nearly double)1st in playoff LossesThe only goalie to record a Tie1st/Last in playoff Goals Against3rd in playoff GAA (with 3 ½ times as many GP as 1st place and over four times the GP of 2nd)1st in playoff Shutouts (by nearly double 2nd)1st in playoff Minutes (by nearly 2000)1st in playoff Games (by 49%)Adjustment for Era:2.68 Adjusted GAA (22nd All Time)Trades:Traded just before his 22nd birthday by Detroit to Toronto for cash - our Greatest Maple Leaf Trade of All Time Neil Colville: 1935-42 (as Centre), 1944-49 (as D); 12 seasons, five seasons quality as a forward and a further three as a D by modern standards of PPG/DPS Totals:100G,166A for266P in465 Games;36.8 Point Shares;Per Game: Coville obviously doesn’t qualify for any leaderboards, but if the qualifiers are lowered so he does, at his retirement Coville was not on any leaderboards; however at his departure for WWII, he wasT-7th All Time in APGT-13th All Time in PPGEra: Of the 38 skaters to play in at least 246 games (3 modern seasons) between 1935 and 1942, Colville is10th in Goals7th in GPG7th in Assistst-3rd in APG10th in PointsT-4th in PPGT-8th in Offensive Point Shares18th (9th/6th Forward) in Defensive Point Shares13th in Point Shares29th in GamesOf the 16 D to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1944 and 1949, Colville is11th in GoalsT-10th in GPG13th in AssistsT-8th in APGT-13th (3rd last) in PointsT-10th in PPG12th in Offensive Point Shares14th (3rd last) in Defensive Point Shares14th (3rd last) in Point Shares13th in Games82-game average: 18G, 30A for 47P3-year peak:As a forward (1938-41): 48-game average of 17G, 22A for 39PAs a D (1945-48): 60-game average of 5G, 11A for 16PPlayoffs:7G,19A (t-13th All Time at his retirement, t-4th All Time at his departure for WWII - Apps, Syd Howe, Boucher) for26P (t-12th All time at his departure for WWII) in45 GamesPer Game: Colville doesn’t meet any PG requirements (obviously), but if they are lowered so that he does, at his departure for WWII, Coville was2nd All Time in playoff APG (Cowley - ahead by .09)T-8th All Time in playoff PPGEra:Among the 74 skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1935 and 1942, Colville isT-27th in playoff GoalsT-36th in playoff GPGT-3rd in playoff Assists5th in playoff APG6th in playoff PointsT-12th in playoff PPGT-14th in playoff GamesColville only played 6 playoff games once he switched to D and he scored a single pointAdjustment for Era:Hockey Reference:151G,283A for434PAdjusted 82-game average: 27G, 50A for 77P (+30P per 82 games)Per Game: doesn’t qualify for the leaderboardsVsX: Doesn’t qualifyTrades: Never traded Harry Oliver: 1926-37; 11 seasons, 5 quality by modern standards of PPG Totals:127G,85 A for212P;39.1 Point Shares in465 Games;At his retirement, Harry Oliver was 22nd All Time in Offensive Point SharesT-25th Forward All Time in Defensive Point SharesPer Game: Oliver does not qualify for any PG leaderboards but if we lower the qualifiers so he does (125G/75A/200P), at his retirement he still doesn’t make the Top 25Era: Of 30 skaters to play in at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1926 and 1937, Oliver is15th in Goals15th in GPG22nd in AssistsT-22nd in APG17th in Points18th in PPG14th in Offensive Point SharesT-13th Forward in Defensive Point Shares18th in Point SharesT-15th in Games82-game average: 22G, 15A for 38P3-year peak (1928-31): 44-game average of 17G, 9A for 25PPlayoffs: 10G (t-15th ALL Time at his retirement),6A (t-30th All Time at his retirement) for16P (t-20th All Time at his retirement) in36 GamesPer Game: Harry Oliver doesn’t qualify for any playoff PG leaderboards, but if they’re lowered, at his retirement Oliver wasT-14th All Time (t-2nd last among qualifying players) in playoff GPGT-16th All Time in playoff APG20th All Time in playoff PPGEra: Of the 77 skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1926-37, Oliver isT-12th in playoff GoalsT-14th in playoff GPG28th in playoff AssistsT-32nd in playoff APG17th in playoff PointsT-19th in playoff PPG24th in playoff GamesTrades:Traded at 27 into the NHL for cashTraded at 36 to the Americans for cashAdjustment for Era:Hockey-Reference:241G,294A for535PAdjusted 82-game average: 42G, 52A for 94P (+56P per 82 games)VsX: Doesn’t qualifyWCHL: 1921-26; 5 seasons, all qualityTotals:90G (3rd All Time - Keats, Hay),48A (t-4th All Time - Keats, Bill Cook, Art Gagne) for138P (5th All Time - Keats, Hay, Cook, Gagne) in130 Games (t-4th All Time - Ty Arbour, Keats, Stanley)Per Game:T-5th All Time in GPG (Keats, Hay, Cook, MacKay)T-4th All Time in APG (Keats, Cook, Gagne)5th All Time in PPG (Keats, Cook, Hay, Gagne)30-game average: 21G, 11A for 32PPlayoffs:3G,2A for5P in11 Games Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E96 Episode 96: Hall of Fame Class of 1968
Oct 16 2023
E96 Episode 96: Hall of Fame Class of 1968
Episode Notes Bill Cowley’s Career: NHL: 1934-47; 13 years, 11 quality by modern standards of PPGTotals:195G (16th All Time at his retirement),354A (1st All Time at his retirement, by 62, i.e. 21% more than 2nd - held the record from 1943-44 to 1950-51) for549P (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1946-47 to 1950-51) in549 Games (t-25th All Time at his retirement);57.1 Point Shares (20th All Time at his retirement)At his retirement, Cowley was 12th All Time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game:At his retirement, Cowley was1st All Time in APG (only qualifying player)1st All Time in PPG (only four qualifying player)If the goals qualifier is lowered so he qualifies (150), and the assists (250) and points qualifiers (400) are lowered so other players qualify, at his retirement Cowley wasT-17th All Time in GPG1st All Time in APG (5 qualifying players, ahead of Blake by .13)1st All Time in PPG (12 qualifying players)Era: Of the 40 skaters to play in at least 492 games (6 modern seasons) between 1934 and 1947, Cowley is11th in GoalsT-7th in GPG1st in Assists (by 62)1st in APG (by .13)1st in Points1st in PPG10th in Offensive Point Shares31st in Defensive Point Shares (20th Forward)16th in Point SharesT-25th in Games Played82-game average: 30G, 52A for 82P3-year peak (1942-45): 50-game average of 32G, 48A for 80PPlayoffs:12G (t-31st All Time at his retirement),34A (2nd All Time at his retirement - Blake) for46P (3rd All Time at his retirement - Blake, Maurice Richard) in64 playoff Games (11th At his retirement)Per Game: At his retirement Cowley was3rd All time in playoff APG (nearly 50% of the leader) - Lach, BlakeCowley doesn’t qualify for the playoff GPG and PPG leaderboards, if we lower the qualifiers for goals (10) and points (30) and if we lower the qualifiers so that others qualify for GPG (20), at his retirement Cowley wasT-46th All Time (3rd last among qualifying players) in playoff GPGStill 3rd All Time in playoff APGT-8th All time in playoff PPGEra: Of the 44 skaters to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1934 and 1947, Cowley isT-16th in playoff GoalsT-22nd in playoff GPG2nd in playoff Assists2nd in playoff APG (behind by .11)2nd in playoff Points (behind by 16)T-5th in playoff PPG6th in playoff GamesAdjusted for Era:Hockey-Reference:252G,555A for807P82-game average: 38G, 83A for 121PPer Game: 2nd All Time in Adjusted APG (Gretzky)6th All Time in Adjusted PPGVsX:365G820A982PPer Game:t-22nd All Time in VsX Adjusted GPG3rd All Time in VsX Adjusted APG (Joe Primeau, Boucher)4th All Time in VsX Adjusted PPG (Bryan Hextall, Charlie Conacher, Bill Cook)If the qualifier is set to 410 Games, Cowley ist-21st All Time in VsX Adjusted APG2nd All Time in VsX Adjusted APG (Boucher)Still 4th All Time in VsX Adjusted PPGTrades:Never traded but acquired by Boston in the St. Louis dispersal draft Bill Cowley’s Accomplishments: Hart (‘41, ‘43)Top 5 in Hart voting a further two timesArt Ross* (‘41)Back Check MVP (‘41, ‘43)Back Check Best Player (‘41, ‘43, ‘44)All Star:1st Team All Star four times2nd Team All Star onceTop Player:Top 5 Player (by Point Shares) once (‘41)Top 10 twice (‘43)Best Offensive Player (by OPS) once (‘41)Top 5  four times (‘39, ‘43, ‘44, ‘45)Top 10 eight times (‘37, ‘38, ‘40)Goals:Leaderboards:Top 5 in Goals onceTop 10 four timesGPG leaderboards:Top 5 in GPG onceTop 10 three timesSingle-season totals:30 goals once25 goals three times (1 of only 13 skaters ever at his retirement)Assists:Leaderboards:Set the single-season Assists record (broke the previous record by 10) and held it for three seasonsLed the league in Assists three times (t-3rd most all time - Gretzky, Orr)Top 5 six timesTop 10 eight timesAPG leaderboards:Set the single-season APG record (broke the previous record by .14) in 1938-39, broke his own record in 1940-41, broke it again in 1943-44 and held that record until 1970Led the league in APG five times (4th most all time - Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr)Top 5 seven timesTop 10 ten times (t-9th most all time)Single-season totals:40 assists four times (most all time at his retirement)Points:Leaderboards:Led the league in Points onceTop 5 six timesTop 10 eight timesPPG leaderboards:Led the league in PPG four times (t-7th most all time)Top 5 five timesTop 10 seven timesSingle-season totals:70 points twice (1 of only 5 players ever at his retirement - Richard, Lach, Max and Doug Bentley)60 points four times (only player ever at his retirement)VsX Peak:Best 7 Seasons:Goals: 115th All TimeAssists: 9th All TimePoints: 19th All TimeBest 10 Seasons:Goals: t-130th All TimeAssists: 11th All TimePoints: 28th All Time Bill Cowley’s Great Teams: NHL:Best Player? (set the single playoff record in assists - broke the previous record by 57% - and set the single playoff record in points) on one Champion (‘39 Bruins)Best Player? (by points) on one Final Four (‘38 Bruins)Top 3 Forward (by points) on one Runner Up (‘43 Bruins) and one Final Four (‘45 Bruins)Top 6 Forward (by points) on one Final Four (‘42 Bruins)Top 9 Forward (by points) on one Runner Up (‘46 Bruins) and two Final Fours (‘40, ‘47 Bruins)Injured (missed 9 of 11 games) on one Champion (‘41 Bruins)Junior:Best Player (led tournament in scoring) on one Memorial Cup Runner Up (‘31 Millionaires) Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E95 Episode 95: Hall of Fame Class of 1970
Sep 18 2023
E95 Episode 95: Hall of Fame Class of 1970
Episode Notes Babe Dye: 1921-1931; 11 seasons, 8 quality Totals:201G (3rd All Time at his retirement - Denneny, Morenz),47A for248P (4th - Denneny, Morenz, Noble) in271 games (13th);46.6 PS (10th)At his retirement, Dye was 5th All Time in Offensive Point Shares (Morenz, Nels Stewart, Joliat, Denneny)Per Game:Dye is 4th All Time in GPG (Bossy, Lemieux, Denneny)Dye doesn’t qualify for the APG or PPG leader-boards. However, if the qualifier is set at 82 gamesDye was 9th All Time in PPG at his retirement82-game average of 61G, 14A for 75P3-year peak (1920-23): 24-game average of 31G, 8A for 39PPlayoffs: 2G for 2P in 10 gamesPer Game: Dye scored 2 points in 10 games so there is no pointEra: Of the 77 skaters who played in at least 10 playoff games between 1919 and 1931, Dye isT-34th in playoff GoalsT-21st in obviously GPG (a joke, obviously)T-last in playoff Assists (obviously)T-51st in playoff PointsT-68th in playoff GamesT-47th in playoff PPG Gadsby: 1946-66; 21 seasons, 16 quality (by DPS) Totals:130G (11th/3rd D All Time at his retirement - Clancy, Hollett),438A (7th All Time, 2nd/1st D, at his retirement - Kelly) for568P (16th All Time, 3rd/1st D, at his retirement - Kelly, Schmidt???)-62* in1248 Games (3rd All Time, 2nd/1st D, at his retirement - Howe, Kelly);100.3 Point Shares (9th All Time, 4th/3rd D, at his retirement - Kelly, Harvey, Clancy);At his retirement, Gadsby was 12th All Time in Defensive Point SharesAt his retirement, among D, Gadsby was t-4th/t-1st in Offensive Point Shares (Kelly, Clapper, Schmidt???)Per Game:T-25th All Time in APG at his retirement (last among qualifying players)4th/2nd D All Time in PPG at his retirement (Schmidt, Kelly, Harvey; last among qualifying players);Gadsby doesn’t qualifying for GPG, but if the qualifier is lowered enough so he qualifies (125G), among D, he was11th/3rd All Time in GPG (last among qualifying players - Hollett, Clancy)Era: Of the 11 D* to play in at least 820 Games (10 modern seasons) between 1946 and 1966, Gadsby is3rd in Goals3rd in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify, less than half of 1st)2nd in Assists3rd in APG2nd in Points4th in PPG8th in Plus/Minus2nd in Offensive Point Shares8th in Defensive Point Shares3rd in Point Shares2nd in Games82-game average: 8G, 29A for 38P, -4*; 6.6 PS3-year peak (1955-58): 70-game average of 10G, 38A for 64P; 7.9 PSPlayoffs:4G,23A (8th/6th D All Time at his retirement) for27P (13th/9th D All Time at his retirement);+5* (7th D All Time at his retirement) in67 Games (18th/15th D at his retirement)Per Game:6th/5th D in APG All Time at his retirement (Pilote, Harvey, Tremblay, Stanley);Gadsby doesn’t qualify for the playoff GPG and PPG leaderboards, but if we lower the qualifiers (absurdly) so he does (4G, 25P), at his retirement, among D, he wasLast in playoffs GPG12th/9th in playoffs PPGEra: Of the 34 D* to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1946-66, Gadsby ist-15th/12th in playoff GoalsT-13th in playoff GPG6th/5th in playoff Assists7th in playoff APG8th/6th in playoff Points9th in playoff PPGT-5th in playoff Plus/Minus12th in Games Johnson: 1947-48, 1950-65; 16 seasons, 14 quality Totals:51G,213A (13th D All Time at his retirement) for264P (21st D All Time at his retirement),+56* (24th All Time at his retirement, 11th D) in 978 Games (8th All Time at his retirement, 6th D)81.6 Point Shares (17th All Time at his retirement, 9th D);At his retirement, Johnson was 2nd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Harvey)Per Game: Johnson doesn’t qualify for the per game leaderboards but if we lowered the qualifiers so that he does (50G, 200A, 250P), among D at his retirement, Johnson wasT-13t/10th (last) All Time in APG21st/17th (last) All Time in PPGEra: Of the 10 D* to play in at least 820 games (10 modern seasons) between 1950 and 1965, Johnson is9th (2nd last) in Goals9th (2nd last) in GPG8th (3rd last) in AssistsT-7th (3rd last) in APG8th (3rd last) in Points8th (3rd last) in PPG8th (3rd last) in Offensive Point Shares2nd in Defensive Point Shares7th in Point Shares6th in Games82-game average: 4G, 18A for 22P, +5*; 6.8 PS3-year peak (1957-60): 70-game average of 6G, 25A for 31P, +26*; 7.4 PSPlayoffs:8G (t-11th/6th D All Time at his retirement), 15A (t-17th/14th D All Time at his retirement) for23P (t-15th/9th D All Time at his retirement);+4* (t-8th D All Time at his retirement) in111 Games (11th All Time, 5th/4th D - Kelly, Harvey, Pronovost, Bouchard - in his retirement)Per Game: Johnson doesn’t qualify but if we lower the qualifier so he does (5G, 15A, 20P), among D, at his retirement, he was18th (last) in playoff APG18th (last) in playoff PPG Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E94 Episode 94: Hall of Fame Class of 1969
Aug 20 2023
E94 Episode 94: Hall of Fame Class of 1969
Episode Notes Sid Abel: 1938-43, 1946-54; 14 seasons, 9 quality Totals:188G,284A (t-8th All Time at his retirement) for472P (17th All Time at his retirement) in612 Games (20th All Time at his retirement);49.4 Point Shares;Per Game: Abel doesn’t quality for the PG leaderboards but, if the qualifiers are lowered so that he does (175G, 275A, 450P), at his retirement Abel wasT-6th All Time in APG (10 qualifying players)13th All Time in PPG (18 qualifying players)Era: Of the 15 skaters to play in at least 574 games (7 modern seasons) between 1938 and 1954, Abel is10th in GoalsT-8th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)4th in AssistsT-2nd in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)8th in PointsT-7th in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)8th in Offensive Point Shares8th in Defensive Point Shares (6th Forward)9th in Point Shares10th in Games82-game average: 25G, 38A for 63P3-year peak (1948-51): 70-game average of 30G, 35A for 65P Bryan Hextall: 1936-44, 1945-48; 11 seasons, 8 quality Totals:187G (19th All Time at his retirement),180A for367P (23rd All Time at his retirement) in449 Games;36.5 Point Shares;Per Game: Hextall doesn’t qualify for the PG leaderboards but if we lower the qualifiers so that he does (175G, 175A, 350P), at his retirement, Hextall wasT-9th All Time in GPG (21 qualifying players)18th All Time in APG (37 qualifying players)T-9th All Time in PPG (24 qualifying players)Era: Of the 21 skaters to play in at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1936 and 1948, Hextall is3rd in GoalsT-2nd in GPG9th in Assists9th in APG8th in PointsT-5th in PPG4th in Offensive Point Shares21st (last) in Defensive Point Shares11th in Point Shares14th in Games82-game average: 34G, 33A for 67P3-year peak (1941-44): 50-game average of 24G, 33A for 57PPlayoffs:8G,9A for17P in37 Games Red Kelly: 1947-67; 20 seasons, all quality Totals:281G (11th All Time at his retirement) ,542A (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Bathgate, Beliveau) for823P (7th All Time at his retirement),+50* in1316 Games (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe);146.3 Point Shares (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe);At his retirement, Kelly was8th All time in Offensive Point Shares3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Harvey, Pronovost);At his trade from Detroit to Toronto, when he switched to centre, among D, Kelly was approximately:3rd/1st All Time in Goals (Clapper, Schmidt)4th/3rd All Time in Assists (Schmidt, Harvey, Gadsby)2nd/1st All Time in Points (Schmidt)2nd/1st All Time in Offensive Point Shares (Clapper)3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Harvey, Bouchard)1st All Time in Point Shares (by over 12 PS)1st All Time in GamesPer Game: At his retirement, Kelly wasT-22nd All Time in APGAt his trade from Detroit to Toronto, when he switched to centre, among D, Kelly was approximately:4th/3rd in APG (Schmidt, Harvey, Gadsby);Kelly didn’t yet qualify for Goals and Points but if we lower the qualifiers (to 150G, 450A) so he does, Kelly was4th/1st All Time in GPG (Noble, Schmidt, Clapper)3rd/1st All Time in PPG (Schmidt, Clapper)Era:Of the 14 D to play in at least 574 games (7 modern seasons) between 1947 and 1960, Kelly is1st in Goals (by 73)1st in GPG2nd in Assists3rd in APG1st in Points (by 75)1st in PPG1st in Offensive Point Shares (by over 17)2nd in Defensive Point Shares1st in Point Shares (by nearly 19)1st in GamesOf the 49 skaters to play at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1959 and 1967, Kelly isT-21st in GoalsT-26th in GPG13th in Assists13th in APG15th in PointsT-16th in PPG23rd in Plus/Minus17th in Offensive Point Shares14th (1st or 2nd Forward) in Defensive Point Shares24th in Point Shares82-game average: 17G, 34A for 52P, +3*; 9.1 PS3-year peak:As D (1950-53): 70-game average of 18G, 32A for 50P; 12.2 PSAs C (1960-63): 70-game average of 23G, 43A for 63P; +24Playoffs:33G (9th All Time at his retirement)59A (t-5th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Beliveau, Delvecchio, Harvey) for92P (8th All Time at his retirement),-6* in164 playoff Games (1st All Time at his retirement, held record until 1973); Roy Worters: 1925-37; 12 seasons, 11 as a starter Totals:171W (7th All Time at his retirement)230L (1st/Last All Time at his retirement)82T (1st All Time at his retirement);67 SO (t-4th All Time at his retirement - Hainsworth, Connell, Chabot);75.7 Point Shares (5th All Time at his retirement - Hainsworth, Connell; Thompson);30181 Minutes (2nd All Time at his retirement - Roach) over484 Games (2nd All Time at his retirement - Roach);Averages:2.28 GAA (6th All Time at his retirement - 8 qualifying players)Era: Of the 11 goalies to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1925 and 1937, Worters is7th in Wins1st/Last in Losses1st in TiesLast in Goals Against (by over 200)9th (3rd last) in GAAT-4th in Shutouts1st in Minutes4th in Goalie Point Shares1st in GamesSeason Average: 14-19-7; 6 SO; 6.3 PS82-game average: 29-39-14; 11 SO; 12.8 PSPlayoffs:3W (14th All Time at his retirement)6L (t-8th All Time at his retirement)1T (t-11th All Time at his retirement);3 SO (t-9th All Time at his retirement);690 Minutes (12th All Time at his retirement) in11 playoff Games;2.09 GAA (13th All Time - 2nd last out of all qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E93 Episode 93: Hall of Fame Class of 1971
Jul 16 2023
E93 Episode 93: Hall of Fame Class of 1971
Episode Notes Gordon Roberts: 1909-16; 7 seasons, 6 quality Totals:124G (7th All Time),25A (t-6th All Time) for149P (7th All Time) in107 Games (9th All Time)Per Game (minimum 82 games):6th All Time in GPG3rd All Time in APG (Sprague Cleghorn, Malone)3rd All Time in PPG (Pitre, Hyland)24-game average: 28G, 6A for 33P3-year peak (1913-16): 24-game average of 31G, 10A for 51PPlayoffs:0P in2 Games Busher Jackson: 1929-44; 15 seasons, 12 quality (by modern PPG standards) Totals:241G (5th All Time at his retirement - Stewart, Morenz, Joliat, Denneny),234A (4th All Time at his retirement - Cowley, Boucher, Syd Howe) for475P (3rd All Time at his retirement - Stewart, Morenz) in633 Games (6th);61.5 PS (15th)At his retirement, Jackson was 9th All Time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: At his retirement, Jackson was8th in GPG;Jackson doesn’t quality for APG or PPG, but if we lower the qualifiers so he does, at his retirement he wasT-5th All Time in APG (Cowley, Watson, Boucher, Syd Howe)3rd All Time in PPG (Morenz, Stewart; only 5 players and only 1 actually qualifies)Era: Of the 11 skaters to play in at least 492 games (6 modern seasons) between 1929 and 1944, Jackson is1st in Goals2nd in Assists1st in Points2nd in Offensive Point Shares (sort of 1st Forward)7th in Defensive Point Shares2nd in Point Shares (sort of 1st Forward)3rd in Games82-game average: 31G, 30A for 62P3-year peak (1931-34): 48-game average of 27G, 21A for 48P Terry Sawchuk: 1949-70; 21 seasons, 15 as a starter, 3 as a 1A, 3 as a backup Totals:445W (8th All Time, 1st at his death, by over 50 - Sawchuk was the career leader from 1962 through 2000),336L (8th All Time 1st at his death),171T (1st All Time);103 SO (2nd All Time - Brodeur - 1st at his death - Sawchuk was the career leader from 1964 through 2007);179 Point Shares (12th All Time, 4th Goalie - Luongo, Brodeur, Roy - 1st at his death - Sawchuk was the career leader from 1961 through 2001);-51.5* Goals Saved Above Average (75th All Time out of 78 total goalies) in57,156 Minutes over971 GamesAverages: 2.50 GAA (t-13th All Time at his death).907* Save Percentage (9th All Time at his death)Era: Of the 19 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1949 and 1970, Sawchuk is1st in Wins (by over 50)1st/last in Losses1st in Ties1st/last in Goals Against11th in Save PercentageT-3rd in GAA4th in Saves4th in Shots Against15th in GSAA1st in Shutouts (by 21)1st in Minutes by (nearly 6000)1st in Goalie Point Shares1st in Games (by nearly 100)Season average: 21-16-8; 5 SO; 8.5 GPS82-game average: 36-28-14; 9 SO; 15.1 GPS Cooney Weiland: 1928-39; 11 seasons, 7 quality by modern standards of PPG Totals:173G (12th All Time at his retirement),162A (12th All Time at his retirement) for335P (11th All Time at his retirement) in509 Games (20th All Time at his retirement);54.6 Point Shares (16th All Time at his retirement);At his retirement, Weiland was 14th All Time in Offensive Point SharesAt his retirement, Weiland was the t-18th Forward All Time in Defensive Point SharesPer Game: Weiland doesn’t qualify for any Per Game leader-boards, but if we lower the qualifiers so he does (150G, 150A, 300P), at his retirement, Weiland was12th All Time in GPG at his retirementT-11th All Time in APG at his retirement10th All Time in PPG at his retirementEra: Of the 33 skaters to play in at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1928 and 1939, Weiland is5th in Goals5th in GPG8th in AssistsT-10th in APG5th in Points5th in PPG5th in Offensive Point SharesT-9th in Defensive Point Shares5th in Point Shares1st in Games Played82-game average: 28G, 26A for 54P3-year peak (1929-32): 44-game average of 27G, 19A for 46P Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E92 Hall of Fame Class of 1972 Part 2
May 29 2023
E92 Hall of Fame Class of 1972 Part 2
Episode Notes Jean Beliveau:  1950-51, 1952-71; 20 seasons, 18 quality Totals:507G (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Hull, Richard),712A (3rd All Time at his retirement - Howe, Delvecchio) for1219P (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe),+117 (t-21st All Time at his retirement) in1125 games (16th All Time at his retirement);138.1 PS (3rd All Time at his retirement - Howe, Kelly);Beliveau is 24th All Time in Offensive Point Shares, 2nd All Time at his retirement (Howe)At his retirement, among Forwards, Beliveau was 7th/3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Howe, Delvecchio)Per Game: At his retirement, Beliveau wasT-13th All Time in GPG4th All Time in APG (Mikita, Esposito, Cowley)4th All Time in PPG (Esposito, Hull, Mikita)Era: Of the 18 skaters to play in at least 1066 Games (13 modern seasons) between 1950 and 1971, Beliveau is2nd in Goals (behind by nearly 200)2nd in GPG3rd in AssistsT-1st in APG2nd in Points (behind by over 400)2nd in PPG4th in Plus/Minus2nd in Offensive Point Shares (behind by over 50)3rd (pure) Forward in Defensive Point Shares2nd in Point Shares (behind by nearly 60)82-game average: 37G, 52A for 89P, +9*3-year peak (1958-61): 70-game average of 40G, 52A for 92P, +11* Gordie Howe: 1946-71; 1979-80; 26 seasons, 25 quality Totals:801G (2nd All Time – Gretzky - 1st All Time at his initial retirement by 232; Howe was the career leader in goals from 1963-64 through 1993-94),1049A (10th All Time – 1st All Time at his initial retirement by 300; Howe was the career leader in assists from 1957-58 through 1987-88) for1850P (4th – Gretzky, Jagr, Messier - 1st All Time at his initial retirement by nearly 600; Howe was the career leader in points from 1959-60 through 1989-90);+160* (14th All Time at his initial retirement) in1767 Games (2nd All Time - Marleau - 1st All Time at his retirement by 300; Howe was the career leader in Games Played from 1961-62 through 2019-20)217.1 PS (4th All Time - Gretzky, Bourque, Luongo - 1st All Time at his retirement by nearly 69; Howe was the career leader from 1960-61 to 1994-95);Howe is 2nd All Time in Offensive Point Shares (Gretzky) - he was 1st All Time at his initial retirement by nearly 69 and was the career leader from 1958-59 until 1993-94Howe is the 15th/13th Forward All Time in Defensive Point Shares - at his initial retirement he was 3rd/1st All TimePer Game: At his initial retirement in 1971, Howe was11th All Time in GPGt-5th in APG (Mikita, Esposito, Cowley, Beliveau)5th in PPG (Esposito, Hull, Mikita, Beliveau; Howe was the career leader in PPG from 1953-54 through 1958-59)Era: Of the 13 skaters to play in at least 1148 games (14 modern seasons) between 1946 and 1971, Howe is1st in Goals (by 369)1st in GPG (by 0.17)1st in Assists (by 300)1st in APG1st in Points (669)1st in PPG (by 0.25)2nd in Plus/Minus1st in Offensive Point Shares (by more than double his teammate)8th (2nd/1st Forward) in Defensive Point Shares1st in Point Shares (by 68.7)82-game average: 37G, 48A for 86P, +7*; 8.7 PS3-year peak (1950-53): 70-game average of 46G, 43A for 89P Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E91 Episode 91: Hall of Fame Class of 1972 Part 1
Apr 24 2023
E91 Episode 91: Hall of Fame Class of 1972 Part 1
Episode Notes The Hall of Fame Class of 1972 is so big - featuring 3 All Time Greats - we had to split it up into two episodes. In Part 1: Bernie "Boom Boom" Geoffrion: 1950-64, 1966-68; 16 seasons, 14 quality Totals:393G (3rd All Time at his first retirement - Howe, Richard),429A (12th All Time at his first retirement) for822P (5th All Time at his first retirement - Howe, Richard, Lindsay, Beliveau),+39* in883 Games;97.5 Point Shares (12th All Time at his first retirement);At his 1st retirement, Geoffrion was 12th All time in Offensive Point Shares21st Forward All Time in Defensive Point SharesPer Game: At his first retirement, Geoffrion wasT-8th All Time in GPG9th All Time in APGT-5th All Time in PPG (Beliveau, Howe, Bathgate, Cowley)Era: Of the 19 skaters to play in at least 738 games between 1950 and 1964, Geoffrion is2nd in Goals (behind Howe by 125)2nd in GPG (6 qualifying players)6th in AssistsT-2nd in APG (7 qualifying players)2nd in Points (behind by Howe by 355)2nd in PPG (5 qualifying players)6th in Plus/Minus14th in Games2nd in Offensive Point Shares (behind Howe by 44.9)3rd Forward in Defensive Point Shares4th in Point Shares14th in Games82-game average: 37G, 40A for 76P, +4*3-year peak (1958-61): 70-game average of 39G, 50A for 89P, +5 Harry "Hap" Holmes: 1917-18, 1926-28; 4 seasons, 3 as a starter Totals:39W (9th All Time at his retirement)54L (6th All Time at his retirement)10T (7th All Time at his retirement);17 Shutouts (8th All Time at his retirement) in6409 Minutes (7th All Time at his retirement) over103 Games (7th All Time at his retirement);15.7 Point Shares (10th All Time at his retirement)Average:2.47 GAA (11th All Time at his retirement - doesn’t actually qualify for the leader-board)Era: not really applicable because his four seasons are spread out over 11 yearsSeason average: 10-14-3; 4 SO in 26 Games; 3.9 PS82-game average: 31-43-8; 14 SO; 12.5 PS Reginald "Hooley" Smith: 1924-41; 17 seasons, 10 quality (by modern PPG standards) Totals:200G (10th All Time at his retirement), 225A (2nd All Time at his retirement - Boucher) for 425P (4th All Time at his retirement - Stewart, Morenz, Joliat) in 715 games (1st All Time at his retirement and he was the career leader in games played from the 1939-40 season to the 1942-43 season) 65.3 PS (12th);7th All Time in Offensive Point Shares at his retirement10th Forward* All Time in Defensive Point Shares at his retirementPer Game: At his retirement, Smith was10th All Time in GPG (last among qualifying players);Smith doesn’t qualify for either AGP or PPG leader-boards, but if we lower the qualifiers so that he does, at his retirement, he was3rd All Time in APG (Boucher, Morenz - last among qualifying players, and none actually qualify)5th All Time in PPG (Morenz, Stewart, Boucher, Joliat - last among qualifying players, only Morenz actually qualifies)Era: Of the 10 skaters to play in at least 574 Games (7 modern seasons), Smith is4th in Goals4th in GPG1st in Assists1st in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)2nd in Points4th in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)3rd in Offensive Point Shares4th in Defensive Point Shares4th in Point Shares82-game average: 23G, 25A for 48P3-year peak (1931-34): 48-game average of 17G, 26A for 43P Stay tuned for Part 2! Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E90 Episode 90: Hall of Fame Class of 1973
Mar 27 2023
E90 Episode 90: Hall of Fame Class of 1973
Episode Notes Doug Harvey: 1947-64, 1966-67, 1968-69; 19 seasons, 17 seasons Totals:88G (21st/13th D All Time at his first retirement),452A (2nd/1st D All Time at his first retirement - Kelly)  for540P (4th/2nd D All Time at his first retirement - ),+46* (13th/12th D All Time at his first retirement) in1113 Games (4th All Time at his first retirement - Howe, Gadsby, Kelly);123.2 Point Shares (4th All Time at his first retirement - Howe, Kelly, Richard - 1st D);At his retirement, Harvey was 1st All Time in Defensive Point Shares (by 7.5 DPS)At his retirement, Harvey was 7th/4th D All Time in Offensive Point Shares - Kelly, Clapper, Schmidt, Shore, Gadsby, Clancy)Per Game: Harvey obviously doesn’t qualify for the GPG leader-boards and, didn’t qualify for the PPG qualifier at his first retirement; at his first retirement, among D, Harvey was3rd/1st D All Time in APG - Schmidt, Kelly (4 qualifying D);If the qualifiers are lowered so that Harvey qualifies, at his first retirement, among D, Harvey was3rd/1st All Time in PPG - Schmidt, Kelly, Clapper (5 qualifying D)Era: Of the 12 D to play in at least 738 Games (9 modern seasons) between 1947 and 1964, Harvey is4th/3rd in Goalst-5th/4th in GPG2nd/1st in Assists2nd/1st in APG3rd/2nd in Points2nd/1st in PPG5th/4th in Plus/Minus3rd/2nd in Offensive Point Shares1st in Defensive Point Shares (ahead by 7.5 DPS)2nd/1st in Point Shares3rd/2nd in Games82-game average: 7G, 34A for 40P, +3*3-year peak (1954-57): 70-game average of 8G, 58A for 66P; 10.1 PSPlayoffs:8G (t-10th/6th D All Time at his first retirement),64A (1st D All Time at his first retirement - by 10 over Kelly and 24 over Pilote) for72P (2nd/1st D All Time at his first retirement),+7 (6th All Time at his first retirement) in137 Games (4th All Time at his first retirement - Kelly, Richard, Howe);Per Game: Harvey obviously doesn’t qualify for the GPG leader-board; at his first retirement, among D, Harvey was2nd D All Time in playoff APG (4 qualifying players)2nd/1st D All Time in playoff PPG (2 qualifying players);If the qualifier is set absurdly low, Harvey was last among qualifying D in playoff GPGEra: Of the 27 D to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1947 and 1964, Harvey ist-2nd/t-1st in playoff Goals (Kelly is ahead by 22)t-9th/8th in playoff GPG (obviously doesn’t qualify)1st in playoff Assists (ahead by 10/24)2nd in playoff APG2nd/1st in playoff Points3rd/2nd in playoff PPG3rd in playoff Plus/Minus2nd/1st in playoff GamesAdjustment for Era:Hockey-Reference:102G,573A for675PPer Game: Among D, Harvey isT-25th All Time in Adjusted APGVsX:Goals: Doesn’t qualify763A739PTraded at 36 for Lou Fontinato (29) Chuck Rayner: 1940-42, 1945-53; 10 seasons, 7 as a Starter Totals:138W (13th All Time at his retirement)207L (4th All Time at his retirement - Worters, Broda, Lumley)78T (5th All Time at his retirement - Broda, Lumley, Worters, Brimsek);25 SO (16th All Time at his retirement) in25,551 Minutes (10th All Time at his retirement)  over425 Games (9th All Time at his retirement);61.6 PS (13th All Time at his retirement)Averages:3.03 GAA (18th All Time at his retirement - last among qualifying players)Era: Of the 9 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1940 and 1953, Rayner is5th in Wins2nd/2nd last in Losses2nd in Ties2nd/2nd last in Goals Against2nd last in GAA5th in Shutouts4th in Minutes5th in Goalie Point Shares3rd in GamesSeason average: 14-21-7; 3 SO; 6.2 PS in 43 Games82-game average: 27-40-15; 5 SO; 11.9 PSPlayoffs:9W (t-17th All Time at his retirement)9L (17th All Time at his retirement);1 SO in1134 Minutes (21st All Time at his retirement) over18 Games (18th All Time at his retirement);Averages: 2.43 GAA (Rayner doesn’t qualify for the leader-boards but if we lower the qualifier so he does he was 14th All Time)Era: Of the 13 goalies to play in at least 10 playoff games between 1940 and 1953, Rayner isT-8th in playoff Winst-9th/t-4th in playoff Losses8th in playoff GAAT-10th (2nd last) in playoff Shutouts10th in playoff GamesAdjustment for Era:3.25 GAA(doesn’t qualify for other adjustments due to no saves recorded)Trades: never traded For Tommy Smith, please listen to episode 32 Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E89 Episode 89: Hall of Fame Class of 1974
Feb 21 2023
E89 Episode 89: Hall of Fame Class of 1974
Episode Notes Bill Burch: 1922-33; 11 seasons, 5 quality by modern standard of PPG Totals:136G (10th All Time at his retirement)60A for196P (14th All Time at his retirement) in390 Games (t-7th All Time at his retirement);40.2 PS (18th All Time at his retirement);At his retirement, Burch was 12th All Time in Offensive Point SharesAmong Forwards, Burch was t-17th All Time in Defensive Point SharesPer Game: Burch doesn’t qualify for any per game leader-board, but if we lower the qualifiers to 100G, 50A and 150P, at his retirement Burch wasT-17th All Time in GPG(last in APG among all qualifying players)T-24th All Time in PPGEra: Among the 10 skaters to play in at least 328 Games (4 modern seasons), between 1922 and 1933, Burch is4th in GoalsT-4th in GPGt-9th /last in Assists10th/last in APG5th in Points7th in PPG5th in Offensive Point Shares8th in Defensive Point Shares5th in Point Shares82-game average: 29G, 12A for 41P3-year peak (1922-25): 24-game average of 16G, 6A for 22P Art Coulter:  1931-42; 11 seasons, 10 quality by DPS Totals:31G,82A (21st/14th? D All Time at his retirement) for113P (25th/18th? D All Time at his retirement) in458 Games (17th/14th? D All Time at his retirement);46.1 Point Shares (16th/14th D All Time at his retirement);At his retirement, Coulter was as high as 6th All Time in Defensive Point SharesPer Game: Obviously he doesn’t qualify, but if the qualifiers are lowered to the hilariously low 30G, 80A, 100P, Coulter is last in GPG and APG and 2nd last in PPGEra: Of the 18 “D” to play in at least 328 Games (4 modern seasons) between 1931 and 1942, Coulter is12th in GoalsT-13th in GPG (no Goals qualifier)11th in Assists11th in APG (no Assists qualifier)11th in Points11th in PPG (no Points qualifier)11th in Offensive Point Shares1st in Defensive Point Shares6th in Point Shares4th in Games82-game average: 6G, 15A for 21P, 8.3 PS3-year peak (1937-40): 48-game average of 4G, 10A for 13P, 5.4 PS Tommy Dunderdale: NHA: 1910-11; 2 seasons, both qualityTotals:27G for 27P in21 GamesPer Game: if the qualifier is set to 20 Games, Dunderdale is11th All Time in GPG17th All Time in PPG16-game average: 21G for 21PPlayoffs: no GPTrades: Sent from the Shamrocks to the Bulldogs at 23PCHA:1911-23; 13 seasons, 11 quality?Totals:194G (1st All Time),60A (t-5th All Time - Cyclone Taylor, Mickey MacKay, Eddie Oatman, Bernie Morris)254P (2nd All Time - Taylor) in231 Games (3rd All Time - Bobby Rowe, Smokey Harris)Per Game: If the qualifier is set to 82 games, Dunderdale is1st All Time in GPG14th All Time in APG8th All Time in PPG24-game average: 20G, 6A for 26PDidn’t bother to calculate a 3-year peakPlayoffs:5G,6A for11P in15 GamesTraded multiple times, I thinkWCHL:1923-24, 1 season, not qualityTotal:2G,1A for3P in17 Games30-game average: 4G, 2A for 5P Dickie Moore: 1951-63, 1964-65, 1967-68; 14 seasons, 9 quality Totals:261G (11th All Time at his first retirement),346A (14th All Time at his first retirement) for607P (11th All Time at his first retirement),+63* (9th All Time at his first retirement) in719 Games;65.2 Point Shares (13th Forward All Time at his first retirement);At his retirement, Moore was 15th All Time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: At his first retirement, Moore was16th All Time in GPGT-9th All Time in APG10th All Time in PPGEra: Of the 36 skaters to play in at least 574 games (7 modern seasons) between 1951 and 1963, Moore is5th in Goals4th in GPG (8 qualifying players)9th in Assists5th in APG (10 qualifying players)6th in Points5th in PPG (8 qualifying players)3rd in Plus/Minus6th in Offensive Point Shares18th in Defensive Point shares (5th Forward)11th in Point Shares82-game average: 30G, 39A for 69P, +73-year peak (1958-1961): 70-game average of 36G, 48A for 84P, +24* Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E88 Episode 88: Hall of Fame Class of 1975
Jan 17 2023
E88 Episode 88: Hall of Fame Class of 1975
Episode Notes George Armstrong: NHL: 1949-71; 21 seasons, 15 qualityTotals:296G (16th All Time at his retirement),417A (20th All Time at his retirement) for713P (16th All Time at his retirement),+101 in1188 Games (11th All Time at his retirement);66 Point Shares;Among Forwards, Armstrong was 12th/10th All Time in Defensive Point Shares at his retirementPer Game: Not in the Top 25 at his retirementEra: Of the 12 skaters to play in at least 1148 games (14 modern seasons) between 1949 and 1971, Armstrong is4th (3rd last forward) in Goals4th in GPG5th (2nd last forward) in Assists4th in APG (3rd last forward)5th (3rd last forward) in Points5th in PPG (3rd last forward)4th in Plus/Minus5th (3rd last forward) in Offensive Point Shares10th (3rd last) in Defensive Point Shares (4th/5th Forward)9th in Point Shares82-game average: 21G, 29A for 49P, +7*3-year peak (1955-1958): 70-game average of 20G, 32A for 52P Ace Bailey: 1926-34; 8 seasons, 4 quality (by modern standards of PPG)Totals:111G (t-23rd All Time at his retirement),81A (t-20th All Time at his retirement) for192P (21st All Time at his retirement) in316 Games;36.2 PS (23rd All Time);At his retirement, Bailey was 17th All Time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: Bailey doesn’t qualify for the leader-boards, but if we lower the qualifiers to 100G, 50A and 150P, at his retirement, Bailey was20th All Time in GPGT-25th All Time in APG20th All Time in PPGEra: Of the 58 skaters to play in at least 246 Games between 1926 in 1934, Bailey is11th in GoalsT-8th in GPG (nobody actually qualifies)14th in AssistsT-12th in APG (nobody actually qualifies)12th in Points10th in PPG (nobody actually qualifies)11th in Offensive Point Shares21st Forward in Defensive Point Shares15th in Point Shares31st in Games82-game average: 29G, 21A for 50P3-year peak (1928-31): 48-game average 25G, 19A for 44P Gordie Drillon: 1936-43, 7 seasons, all qualityTotals:155G (22nd All Time at his departure for WWII),140A for295P in312 Games;37.4 Point SharesPer Game: Drillon doesn’t qualify, but if we lower the qualifiers so he does (to 150G, 100A and 250P), at his departure to WWII, Drillon was4th All Time in GPGT-8th All Time in APG3rd All Time in PPGEra: Of the 40 skaters to play in at least 246 games (3 modern seasons) between 1936 and 1943, Drillon is1st in Goals (by 17)1st in GPG (nobody actually qualifies)7th in AssistsT-7th in APG (nobody actually qualifies)2nd in Points3rd in PPG (nobody actually qualifies)1st in Offensive Point SharesT-14th in Defensive Point Shares among Forwards4th in Point Shares14th in Games82-game average: 41G, 37A for 78P3-year peak (1938-41): 48-game average of 24G, 22A for 45P Glenn Hall: NHL: 1952-53, 1954-71; 18 seasons, 13 as a starter, 2 as a 1A, 3 as a backupTotals:407W (11th All Time, 2nd at his retirement - Sawchuk)326L (11th All Time, 3rd at his retirement - Sawchuk, Lumley)164T (2nd All Time - Sawchuk)84 SO (4th All Time - Brodeur, Sawchuk, Hainsworth - 3rd at his retirement) in53449 Minutes (8th All Time, 2nd at his retirement - Sawchuk)906 Games (2nd All Time at his retirement - Sawchuk);177.6 Point Shares (14th All Time, 6th Goalie, 2nd Goalie at his retirement - Sawchuk);240 Goals Saved Above Average (8th All Time, barely 2nd All Time at his retirement - Plante)Average:2.50 GAA (13th All Time at his retirement).918 SV% (14th All Time, t-4th at his retirement - Esposito, Bower, Plante)Era: Of the 19 goalies to play in at least 205 Games between 1952 and 1971, Hall is1st in Wins1st (last) in Losses1st in TiesLast in Goals Against3rd in Save Percentage3rd in GAA1st in Saves (by 4,855)1st in Shots (by 5,198)2nd (barely) in Goals Saved Above Average1st in Shutouts (by 5)1st in Minutes (by 5,111)1st in Games (by 82)Season average: 23-18-9, 5 SO; 9.9 PS; 13.3 GSAA82-game average: 37-30-15; 8 SO; 35.8 PS; 21.7 GSAA Pierre Pilote: NHL: 1955-1969; 14 seasons, 13 qualityTotals:80G,418A (4th/3rd D All Time at his retirement - Harvey, Gadsby) for498P (6th/3rd D All Time at his retirement - Gadsby, Harvey),+187 (2nd All Time - Mikita - 1st D, at his retirement)  in890 Games (13th D All Time at his retirement);At his retirement, Pilote was 10th/9th All Time in Defensive Point Shares;Among D, Pilote was 9th/5th All Time in Offensive Point Shares at his retirement (Shore, Gadsby, Clancy, Harvey);At his retirement, Pilote was 19th All Time, 10th D, in Point SharesPer Games: At his retirement, among D, Pilote was1st All Time in APG (by 0.06)Pilote doesn’t qualify for either the GPG or PPG leaderboards, but if we lower the qualifiers so he qualifies, among D at his retirement, Pilote was:5th/1st All Time in PPGEra: Of the 11 D to play in at least 738 Games between 1955 and 1969, Pilote is4th/2nd in Goals4th/2nd in GPG (last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify)1st in Assists (by 84)1st in APG (by .05)3rd/1st in Points3rd/1st in PPG (last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify)1st in Plus/Minus (by 31)2nd/1st in Offensive Point Shares4th in Defensive Point Shares1st in Point Shares (by nearly 5)82-game average: 7G, 39A for 46P, +17; 8.6 PS3-year peak (1963-66): 70-game average of 8G, 46A for 55P, +38; 9.7 PS Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E87 Episode 87: Hall of Fame Class of 1976
Dec 21 2022
E87 Episode 87: Hall of Fame Class of 1976
Episode Notes Johnny Bower: 1953-55, 1956-57, 1958-70, 15 seasons, 9 as a starter, 2 as a 1A, 4 as a backup (or injured) Totals:250W (9th All Time at his retirement),192L (12th All Time at his retirement),90T (7th All Time at his retirement),37 Shutouts (17th All Time at his retirement) in31989 Minutes (8th All Time at his retirement) over552 Games (8th All Time at his retirement);104.3 Point Shares (8th All Time at his retirement)191 Goals Saved Above Average (13th All Time, 2nd All Time at his retirement - Glen Hall)Averages:2.51 GAA (15th All Time at his retirement).922 SV% (2nd All Time - Hasek - 1st at his retirement)Era: Of the 16 goalies who played in 205 games between 1953 and 1970, Bower is5th in Wins5th in Losses5th in Ties5th in Goals Against1st in Save Percentage (ahead by .003)4th in GAA5th in Saves5th in Shots2nd in GSAA5th in Shutouts5th In Minutes5th in GamesSeason average: 17-13-6, 2 SO in 37 starts; 12.2 GSAA; 7 PS82-game average: 37-29-13, 5 SO; 31.46 GSAA; 15.5 PS3-year peak (1959-62): 70-game average of 28-16-8; 3 SO; 1.95 GAA: 0.920 SV%; 21.2 GSAA; 14.1 PS Bill Quackenbush: 1942-1956; 14 seasons, 13 quality by DPS Totals:62G,223A (3rd/4th D All Time at his retirement - Kelly, Harvey), for285P (8th/9th D All time at his retirement) in775 Games (5th All Time at his retirement - Clapper, Richard, Bouchard, Schmidt - 2nd/3rd D);68.7 Point Shares (15th All Time at his retirement, 7th/8th D);At his retirement, Quackenbush was 6th All Time in Defensive Point Shares;At his retirement, Quackenbush was the 14th/18th D in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: Quackenbush doesn’t qualify for the leader-boards but if we reduced the qualifier to 50G, 200A and 250A, at his retirement, among D, he was4th All Time (last among qualifying players) in APG13th All Time (last among qualifying players) in PPGEra: Of the 12 D to play in at least 492 Games (six modern seasons) between 1942 and 1956, Quackenbush is3rd in Goals3rd/last among qualifying players in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)3rd in Assists3rd/last among qualifying players in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)2nd in Points4th/last among qualifying players in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)4th in Offensive Point Shares2nd in Defensive Point Shares2nd in Point Shares1st in Games82-game average: 7G, 24A for 30P3-year peak (1947-50): 60-game average of 6G, 16A for 22P; 5.9 PS Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E86 Episode 86: Hall of Fame Class of 1977
Oct 23 2022
E86 Episode 86: Hall of Fame Class of 1977
Episode Notes Alex Delvecchio: 1950-74; 24 seasons, 21 quality Totals:456G (9th All Time at his retirement),825A (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe) for1281P (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe),+24 in1550 Games (16th All Time, 2nd at his retirement - Howe);123.5 Point Shares (7th All Time at his retirement);At his retirement, Delvecchio was 7th All Time in Offensive Point SharesAt his retirement, among forwards, Delvecchio was 4th/2nd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Mohns, Clapper, Howe)Per Game: At his retirement, Delvecchio was15th All Time in APG12th All Time in PPG (2nd last among qualifying players)Era: Among the 10 skaters to play in at least 1230 games (15 modern seasons) between 1950 and 1974, Delvecchio is4th in Goalst-4th in GPG2nd in Assists (behind by 97)T-4th in APG2nd in Points (behind by 357)T-4th in PPG4th in Plus/Minus (behind 3rd by 127)2nd in Offensive Point Shares (behind by 72.1)5th (2nd/3rd Forward) in Defensive Point Shares3rd (2nd Forward) in Point Shares1st in Games Played (ahead by 91)82-game average: 24G, 43A for 68P, +13-year peak (1967-70): 74-game average of 23G, 52A for 75, +25 Tim Horton: 1949-1974, 24 years, 21 quality Totals:115G (15th/10th D All Time at his retirement),403A (7th/5th D All time at his retirement - Orr, Harvey, Gadsby, Pilote) for518P (7th/4th D All Time at his retirement - Orr, Gadsby, Harvey),+191 (12th All Time, 6th D, at his retirement) in1445 Games (3rd All Time - - 1st D, at his retirement);131.7 Point Shares (5th All Time - - 1st D, at his retirement)At his retirement, Horton was 1st All Time in Defensive Point Shares by 17.6At his retirement, among D, he was 12th/8th in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: At his retirement, among D, Horton was:9th/6th All Time in APG (11/8 qualifying players)7th/4th All Time in PPG  (last among qualifying players - Orr, Harvey, Gadsby);Horton doesn’t qualify for GPG but if the qualifier is lowered so he does (100G), he was 20th/13th All Time (last among qualifying players)Era: Of the 14/12 D to play in at least 820 games between 1949 and 1974, Horton is4th/2nd in Goals6th/4th in Assists4th/2nd in Points1st in Plus MinusLast in GPG (5/3 players, doesn’t actually qualify)6th/4th in APG (8/6 qualifying players)Last in PPG (5/3 qualifying players)6th/4th in Offensive Point Shares1st in Defensive Point Shares (by 17.9)2nd/1st in Point Shares1st in Games82-game average: 7G, 23A for 30P, +11*3-year peak (1963-66): 70-game average of 9G, 19A for 28P, +16; 7.2 PS Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E85 Episode 85: Hall of Fame Class of 1978
Sep 11 2022
E85 Episode 85: Hall of Fame Class of 1978
Episode Notes Andy Bathgate: 1952-71 Totals:349G (11th All Time at his retirement),624A (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Delvecchio, Beliveau) for973P (6th All Time at his retirement),-60* in1069 Games (19th All Time at his retirement);91.8 Point Shares (23rd All Time at his retirement);At his retirement, Bathgate was 12th All Time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: At his retirement, Bathgate was7th All Time in APG12th All Time in PPGEra: Of the 16 skaters to play in at least 1066 games (13 modern seasons) between 1952 and 1971, Bathgate is4th in Goals4th in GPG4th in Assists3rd in APG5th in Points3rd in PPG13th in Plus/Minus5th in Offensive Point SharesLast in Defensive Point Shares6th in Point Shares15th (2nd last) in Games82-game average: 27G, 48A for 75P, -53-year peak (1956-59): 70-game average of 33G, 50A for 83P Jacques Plante: 952-65, 1968-72, 18 seasons, 13 as a starter, 3 as a 1A Totals:437W (9th All Time, 2nd at his second retirement - Sawchuk)246L (5th All Time at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Worsley, Lumley, Hall)145T (6th All Time, 3rd at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Hall)82 SO (5th All Time - Brodeur, Sawchuk, Hainsworth, Hall - 4th at his retirement);173.7 PS (16th All Time, 7th Goalie, 3rd Goalie at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Hall);294.8* Goals Saved Above Average (6th All Time, 1st at his second retirement);49,513 Minutes (13th All Time, 3rd at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Hall) over837 Games (14th All Time, 3rd at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Hall)Per Game:2.38 GAA (18th All Time, 11th at his second retirement).920 SV% (7th All Time, 2nd at his second retirement - Bower)Era: Of the 22 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1952 and 1973, Plante is1st in Wins4th in Losses3rd in Ties4th/19th in Goals Against3rd in Save Percentage2nd in GAA3rd in Saves3rd in Shots Against1st in Goals Saved Above Average (by 55)2nd in Shutouts2nd in Minutes2nd in GamesSeason average: 24-14-8, 5 SO; 9.65 PS82-game average: 43-24-14, 8 SO; 17 PS3-year peak (1968-71): 76-game average of 42-22-13; 13 SO; 1.93 GAA; .936 SV%; 66.3 GSAA; 18.8 GPS Marcel Pronovost: 1950-70, 20 seasons, 18 quality Totals:88G (t-16th/21st D All Time at his retirement),257A (7th/10th D All Time at his retirement)345P, (7th/11th D All Time at his retirement),+39* (25th D All Time at his retirement) in1206 Games (7th All Time, 4th D -  Gadsby, Stanley, Howell - at his retirement);101.5 Point Shares (11th All Time at his retirement);At his retirement, Pronovost was 3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Horton, Harvey) and was the 17th/21st D All Time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: Pronovost doesn’t qualify for any PG leader-boards but if we lower the qualifiers enough (to 80G, 250A and 300P), at his retirement among D, Pronovost wast-24th/t-29th (last among qualifying players) All Time in GPG8th/11th (last among qualifying players) All Time in APG9th/13th (2nd last among qualifying players) All Time in PPGEra: Of the 10 (12) D who played in at least 820 games between 1950 and 1970, Pronovost is4th (6th) in Goals6th (8th) in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)7th (9th) in Assists10th (12th, last) in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)7th (9th) in Points7th (9th) in PPG (doesn’t qualify)7th (8th) in Plus/Minus6th (8th) in Offensive Point Shares2nd in Defensive Point Shares3rd (4th) in Point Shares2nd in Games82-game average: 6G, 17A for 24P, +3*3-year peak (1952-55): 70-game average of 8G, 20A for 28P Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E84 Episode 84 [Fixed]: Hall of Fame Class of 1979
Aug 16 2022
E84 Episode 84 [Fixed]: Hall of Fame Class of 1979
Episode Notes Harry Howell: 1952-1973, 21 seasons, all qualityTotals:94G (20th* D All Time at his departure to the WHA),324A (9th* D All Time at his departure) for418P (10th* D All Time at his departure),-152* (2nd? Worst All Time at his departure) in1411 Games (3rd All Time at his departure, 1st D);87.6 Point Shares (13th* D All Time at his retirement);At his departure to the WHA, Howell was 8th All Time in Defensive Point SharesAt his departure, Howell was the 21st D All Time in Offensive Point Shares (Kelly, Clapper and Mohs are all ahead)Per Game: Howell doesn’t qualify for either the GPG or PPG leader-board but if the qualifier is lowered so he does, at his departure to the WHA, among D Howell was23rd All Time (last among qualifying D) in GPG11th All Time (last among qualifying D) in APG11th All Time (last among qualifying D) in PPGEra: Of the 12 to play in at least 820 games (10 modern seasons) between 1952 and 1973, Howell is4th in GoalsT-7th in GPG6th in AssistsT-8th in APG6th in Points7th in PPG2nd last in Plus/Minus7th in Offensive Point Shares4th in Defensive Point Shares7th in Point Shares1st in Games82-game average: 6G, 19A for 25P, -93-year peak (1965-68): 70-game average of 7G, 26A for 34P, -2 Bobby Orr: 1966-79; 12 seasons, 9 qualityTotals:270G (7th D All Time, 1st at his retirement - Orr was ahead by over 100 goals), 645A (13th D All Time, 1st at his retirement - ahead by nearly 200 assists) for 915P (11th D All Time, 1st at his retirement - ahead by 299 points), +582 (2nd All Time - Robinson - 1st All Time at his retirement, ahead by nearly 100) in 657 games; 152 PS (3rd All Time - Howe,  - 1st D, at his retirement);Orr is the 9th D All Time in Offensive Point Shares (11th skater All Time at his retirement, 1st D - ahead of Kelly by over 13, ahead of Clapper by over 23, ahead of Park by nearly 40)At his retirement, Orr was 14th All Time in Defensive Point Shares Per Game: Orr is3rd All Time in APG - Gretzky, Lemieux (1st D by .17)5th All Time in PPG - Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy, McDavid (1st D by .3)Among D Orr, is 1st All Time in GPG (by .12)Era: Of the 78 skaters to play in at least 656 games (8 modern seasons) between 1966 and 1979, Orr isT-17th in Goals (1st D by over 100)T-8th in GPG (only D to qualify for leaderboard)2nd in Assists (1st D by roughly 180)1st in APG (by .22)4th in Points (1st D by almost 300)T-1st in PPG1st in Plus/Minus (by nearly 100)2nd in OPS (1st D by nearly double)2nd in DPS1st in Point Shares82-game average: 34G, 80A for 114P, +753-year peak (1969-72): 82-game average of 38G, 96A for 134P, +123; 22.2 PS Henri Richard: 1955-75, 20 seasons, 19 qualityTotals:358G (15th All Time at his retirement),688A (7th All Time at his retirement) for1046P (10th All Time at his retirement),+243* (12th All Time at his retirement) in1258 Games (11th All Time at his retirement);98.7 Point Shares (22nd All Time at his retirement);At his retirement, Richard was 18th in Offensive Point SharesAmong Forwards, Richard was 6th All Time in Defensive Point SharesPer Game: At his retirement, Richard wasT-13th All Time in APGT-24th All Time in PPGEra: Of the 26 skaters to play in at least 984 games (12 modern seasons) between 1955 and 1975, Richard is11th in Goals11th in GPG6th in Assists5th in APG9th in Points9th in PPG4th in Plus/Minus9th in Offensive Point Shares5th (1st/2nd Forward) in Defensive Point Shares10th in Point Shares4th in Games82-game average: 23G, 45A for 68P, +16*3-year peak (1957-60): 70-game average of 28G, 44A for 71P, +7* Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E83 Episode 83: Hall of Fame Class of 1980
Jul 3 2022
E83 Episode 83: Hall of Fame Class of 1980
Episode Notes Harry Lumley: 1943-60, 16 seasons, 13 quality Totals:330W (1st All Time at his retirement)239L (10th All Time, 1st at his retirement)142T (7th All Time, 1st at his retirement);71 Shutouts (12th All Time; t-5th at his retirement)133.6 Point Shares (19th Goalie All Time, 1st at his retirement);-22.3 Goals Saved Above Average (only 17% of his Games - 2nd last of only 7 goalies at his retirement) in48,038 Minutes (1st All Time at his retirement by over 9500)803 Games (1st All Time at his retirement by 161)Per Game:.905 SV% (only 17% of his Games - 2nd last of only 7 goalies at his retirement)2.74 GAA (18th All Time at his retirement)Era: Of the 12 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1943 and 1960, Lumley is1st in Wins1st (Last) in Losses (by 120!!!)1st in TiesLast in Goals Against6th (2nd last among qualifying goalies) in Save Percentage (only 136 Games)7th in GAA6th (2nd last among qualifying goalies) in Saves (only 136 Games)6th (2nd last among qualifying goalies) in Shots Against (only 136 Games)6th (2nd last among qualifying goalies) in GSAA (only 136 Games)1st in Minutes1st in Point Shares1st in Games (by 161)82-game average: 34-34-15; 7 SOSeason average: 21-21-9; 4 SO3-year peak (1952-55): 70-game average of 28-26-16; 10 SO; 2.04 GAA; 14.7 GPS Lynn Patrick: 1934-43 1945-46; 10 seasons, 8 quality (by modern standards of PPG) Totals:145G,191A (t-20th All Time at his retirement) for336P (t-22nd All Time at his retirement) in455 Games;34.5 PSPer Game: Patrick doesn’t qualify for any PG leader-board but if we lower the qualifiers so he does, at his retirement Patrick wasT-11th All Time in APGT-16th All Time in PPGEra: Of the 26 skaters to play in at least 328 Games between 1934 and 1943, Patrick is4th in GoalsT-4th in GPG (nobody actually qualifies)3rd in AssistsT-5th in APG (nobody actually qualifies)4th in Points5th in PPG (nobody actually qualifies)4th in Offensive Point Shares14th (3rd Forward) in Defensive Point Shares10th in Point Shares4th in Games82-game average: 26G, 34A for 61P3-year peak (1940-43): 48-game average of 25G, 28A for 53P Gump Worsley: 1952-53, 1954-74, 21 seasons, 12 as a starter, 1 as a 1A, 8 as a backup or injured Totals:333W (4th All Time at his retirement - Sawchuk, Plante, Hall)348L (5th All Time - Brodeur, Luongo, Joseph, Meloche - 1st, i.e. last, at his retirement)149T (5th All Time - Sawchuk, Hall, Brodeur, Esposito - 3rd at his retirement)43 Shutouts (16th All Time at his retirement),131.2 Point Shares (21st All Time, 5th at his retirement - Sawchuk, Hall, Plante, Lumley),197.8* (all but 137 games) Goals Saved Above Average (12th All Time, 4th at his retirement - Plante, Hall, Esposito) in50,157 Minutes (12th All Time, 3rd at his retirement - Sawchuk, Hall) over860 Games (3rd All Time at his retirement - Sawchuk, Hall)Averages:2.87 GAA.914* (all but 123 games) Save Percentage (6th All Time at his retirement)Era: Of the 25 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1952 and 1974, Worsley is4th in Wins1st (last) in Losses2nd in Ties1st (last) in Goals Against7th in Save Percentage12th in GAA2nd in Saves2nd in Shots4th in GSAA6th in Shutouts2nd in Minutes4th in in Point Shares2nd in Games PlayedSeason average: 16-17-7, 2 SO in 41 games82-game average: 32-33-14, 4 SO3-year peak (1960-63): 24-34-10, 2 SO; 3.11 GAA, .913 SV%, 9.9 PS; 14.7 GSAA Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E82 Episode 82: Hall of Fame Class of 1981
Jun 5 2022
E82 Episode 82: Hall of Fame Class of 1981
Episode Notes Johnny Bucyk: 1955-78; 23 seasons, 20 quality Totals:556G (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Esposito, Hull),813A (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Mikita, Delvecchio) for1369P (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Esposito, Mikita),-7;122.4 Point Shares (12th All Time at his retirement);1540 Games (17th All Time, 3rd at his retirement - Howe, Delvecchio)At his retirement, Bucyk was 7th All Time in Offensive Point Shares;Among forwards, Bucy was 19th All Time in Defensive Point Shares at retirementPer Game: Not in the Top 25Era: Of the 12 skaters to play in at least 1148 games (14 modern seasons) between 1955 and 1978, Bucyk is1st in Goals3rd in GPG (10 qualifying players)2nd in Assists4th in APG (10 qualifying players)2nd in Points3rd in PPG (6 qualifying players)8th in Plus/Minus2nd in Offensive Point Shares10th (3rd last) in Defensive Point Shares2nd in Point Shares82-game average: 30G, 43A for 73P, 03-year peak (1970-73): 78-game average of 41G, 56A for 97P, +23Playoffs:41G (15th All Time at his retirement),62A (12th All Time at his retirement) for103P (14th All Time at his retirement),+29 (8th All Time at his retirement) in124 Games (20th All Time at his retirement)Per Game: At his retirement, Bucyk was18th All Time in playoff GPGT-25th All Time in playoff PPGEra: Of the 73 skaters to play in at least 82 playoff games between 1955 and 1978, Bucyk is10th in playoff Goals15th in playoff GPG8th in playoff AssistsT-14th in playoff APG9th in playoff PointsT-15th in playoff PPG8th in playoff Plus/Minus 11th in playoff Games Frank Mahovlich: 1956-74, 18 seasons, 17 quality Totals:533G (4th All Time at his departure to the WHA - Howe, Hull, Richard),570A (10th All Time at his departure) for1103P (8th All Time at his departure),+266 (4th All Time at his departure - Orr, Esposito, Mikita) in1181 Games (17th All Time at his departure);121.7 PS (10th All Time at his departure);At his departure, Mahovlich was 6th All Time in Offensive Point Shares;Among Forwards, Mahovlich was 8th* All Time in Defensive Point SharesPer game: At his retirement, Mahovlich wasT-14th All Time in GPG (4th LW)23rd All Time in APG (2nd LW)T-12th All Time in PPG (3rd LW)Era: Of the 12 skaters to play in at least 1066 games (13 modern seasons) between 1956 and 1974, Mahovlich is1st in Goals (by 61 Goals)1st in GPG (by 0.08)5th in Assists5th in APG3rd in PointsT-1st in PPG1st in Plus/Minus1st in Offensive Point Shares4th in Defensive Point Shares (1st Forward)1st in Point Shares5th in Games82-game average: 37G, 39A for 76P, +183-year peak (1971-74): 78-game average of 39G, 55A for 93P, +35Playoffs:51G (7th All Time at his retirement),67A (t-6th All Time at his retirement) for118P (t-7th All Time at his retirement),-25 in137 Games (t-6th All Time at his retirement);Per Game: At his retirement, Mahovlich wasT-17th All Time in playoff GPGT-16th All Time in playoff APGT-12th All Time in playoff PPGEra: Of the 42 skaters to play in at least 82 playoff games between 1956 and 1974, Mahovlich is4th in playoff GoalsT-9th in playoff GPGT-4th in playoff AssistsT-8th in playoff APG4th in playoff Points8th in playoff PPGLast in Plus/Minus3rd in playoff Games Allan Stanley: 1948-69, 21 seasons, 20 quality? Totals:100G (9th/11th D All Time at his retirement),333A (4th/5th D All Time at his retirement - Harvey, Gadsby, Pilote, Kelly) for 433P (5th/7th D All Time at his retirement - Gadsby, Harvey, Kelly Pilote, Clapper, Horton),+117* (14th All Time - 6th D at his retirement) in 1244 Games (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Kelly, Gadsby);103.6 Point Shares (9th All Time at his retirement, 4th/5th D - Harvey, Kelly, Horton, Clancy);Stanley is 25th All Time in Defensive Point Shares (At his retirement, he  was 4th All Time in Defensive Point Shares - Harvey, Pronovost, Horton)At his retirement, Stanley was the 11th D All Time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: Stanley didn’t score enough to make either the GPG or PPG leader-boards but we lowered the requirements (100G, 400P). At his retirement, among D, Stanley was 11th (last among all qualifying players) All Time in GPG6th (last among all qualifying players) All Time in APG7th (last among all qualifying players) All Time in PPGEra: Of the 12 D* to play in at least 820 games (10 modern seasons) between 1948 and 1969, Stanley is4th (3rd) in Goals6th (5th) in GPG4th in Assists6th (5th) in APG6th (5th) in Points6th (5th) in PPG4th in Plus/Minus6th (5th) in Offensive Shares4th in Defensive Point Shares4th (3rd) in Point Shares1st in Games82-game average: 7G, 22A for 29P, +8 (1/2 of his career so this isn’t accurate)3-year peak (1959-62): 70-game average of 10G, 27A for 37P, +18Playoffs:7G (t-17th/15th D All Time at his retirement),36A (3rd D All Time at his retirement - Harvey, Pilote) for43P (5th/4th D All Time at his retirement - Harvey, Pilote, Kelly, Tremblay),+2* (t-24th D All Time at his retirement) in109 Games (6th D All Time at his retirement)Per Game: Stanley doesn’t qualify for playoff GPG or PPG so we lowered the qualifiers (5G, 40P). At his retirement, among D, Stanley wasT-4th (last among qualifying players) in playoff APG - Pilote, Harvey, Tremblay6th (last among qualifying players) in playoff PPG Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E81 Episode 81: WHA Stars
May 6 2022
E81 Episode 81: WHA Stars
Episode Notes Real Cloutier: 1979-85, 6 seasons, 4 quality Totals:146G,198A for344P,+16 in318 GamesEra: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in at least 318 Games between 1979 and 1985, Cloutier is60th in Goals31st in GPG (doesn’t qualify)75th in Assists34th in APG (doesn’t qualify)65th in Points24th in PPG (doesn’t qualify)T-128th in Plus/Minust-50th in Offensive Point SharesNot in the Top 200 in Defensive Point Shares93rd in Point Shares82-game average: 38G, 51A for 89P, +43-year peak (1979-82): 80-game average of 43G, 55A for 98P, +11Playoffs:7G,5A for 12P,-22 in25 GamesEra: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1979 and 1985, Cloutier isT-110th in playoff GoalsT-74th in playoff GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)Not in the Top 200 in playoff AssistsT-185th in playoff APG (doesn’t actually qualify)T-169th in playoff PointsT-129th in playoff PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)Not in the Top 200 in playoff Plus/MinusNot in the Top 200 in playoff Games Marc Tardif: 1969-73, 1979-83; 8 seasons, 7 quality Totals:194G,207A for401P+23 in517 Games;31.7 Point SharesEra:Of the 195 skaters to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1969 and 1973, Tardif is49th in Goals35th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)94th in Assists82nd in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)71st in Points55th in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)43rd in Plus/Minus60th in Offensive Point Shares105th (41st Forward) in Defensive Point Shares87th in Point Shares105th in GamesOf the 180 skaters to play in at least 246 games (3 modern seasons) between 1979 and 1983, Tardif is39th in Goals31st in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)81st in Assists61st in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)59th in Points43rd in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)150th in Plus/Minus50th in Offensive Point Shares175th (114th Forward - 4th last) in Defensive Point Shares99th in Point Shares125th in Games82-game average: 31G, 33A for 64P, +43-year peak (1979-82): 80-game average: 39G, 40A for 79P, -14Playoffs:13G,15A for28P,-10 in62 GamesEra:Of the 37 skaters to play in at least 40 playoff games between 1969 and 1973, Tardif is18th in playoff Goals16th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)30th in Assists29th (2nd last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) in APG23rd in Points22nd (last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) in PPG23rd in Plus/MinusLast in GamesOf the 193 skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1979 and 1983, Tardif is143rd in Goals138th in Assists148th in Points181st in Plus/Minus155th in Games JC Tremblay: 1959-72, 13 seasons, 11 quality Totals:57G,306A (11th/8th D All Time at his departure to the WHA)363P (12th/8th D All Time at his departure),+244 (5th All Time, 2nd D, at his departure - Orr, Esposito, Hull, Mikita) in796 Games (17th D All Time at his departure);81.4 PS (16th/13th D All Time at his departure);At his departure, Tremblay was 12th/11th All Time in Defensive Point SharesAt his departure, Tremblay was 19th/15th All Time among D in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: At his departure to the WHA, Tremblay was, among D,6th All Time in APGTremblay doesn’t meet either the GPG or the PPG requirement, but if we lower them to 50G (-150G) and 350P (-150P) respectively, Tremblay was, among D:8th/4th All Time in PPG - Kelly, Schmidt (?!?!?!), Gadsby?, Clapper, Pilote, Mohns, HarveyEra: Of the 11 D (including Mohns) to play at least 656 games (8 modern seasons) between 1959 and 1972, Tremblay is7th/6th in Goals9th/8th (last/2nd last) in GPG (9 qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify)3rd/2nd in Assists2nd in APG (3 qualifying players)3rd/2nd in Points3rd/2nd in PPG (4 qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify)1st in Plus/Minus (by +57)4th/3rd in Offensive Point Shares2nd in Defensive Point Shares2nd in Point Shares6th in Games82-game average: 6G, 31A for 38P, +25; 8.4 PS3-year peak (1969-72): 78-game average of 7G, 44A for 50P, +27; 9.4 PSPlayoffs:14G (5th/2nd D All Time at his departure to the WHA - Kelly, Schmidt?!?!, Orr, Mohns)51A (4th/3rd D All Time at his departure - Harvey, Kelly, Pilote) for65P (4th/3rd D All Time at his departure - Kelly, Harvey, Orr)+37 (3rd All Time at his departure -  Orr, Dallas Smith)108 Games (9th D All Time at his departure)Per Game: Among D at his departure, Tremblay was3rd All Time in playoff APG (Orr, Pilote - 8 qualifying players)3rd All Time in playoff PPG (Orr, Pilote - 5 qualifying players);Tremblay doesn’t qualify for the GPG leaderboards but if the qualifier is lowered to 10G, Tremblay wasT-9th All Time in GPG (12 qualifying players)Era: Of the 31 D to play in 41 playoff games between 1959 and 1972, Tremblay is3rd/2nd in playoff Goalst-4th/3rd in playoff GPG (6 players, only Orr actually qualifies)T-1st in playoff Assists4th/3rd in playoff APG (5 qualifying players)2nd in playoff Points (behind by 1)4th/3rd in playoff PPG (4 qualifying players)3rd in playoff Plus/Minus2nd in playoff Games Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E80 Episode 80: Hall of Fame Class of 1982
Apr 1 2022
E80 Episode 80: Hall of Fame Class of 1982
Episode Notes Yvan Cournoyer: 1963-79, 16 seasons, 12 quality Totals:428G (12th All Time at his retirement),435A for863P (17th All Time at his retirement)+254 (18th All Time at his retirement) in968 Games;Cournoyer was 22nd All Time in Offensive Point Shares at his retirementPer Game: At his retirement, Cournoyer wasT-24th All Time in GPGEra: Of the 22 skaters to play at least 902 games between 1963 and 1979, Cournoyer is4th in Goals2nd in GPG (behind by .14)7th in Assists6th in APG6th in Points6th in PPG2nd in Plus/Minus6th in Offensive Point Shares10th in Defensive Point Shares (5th Forward)6th in Point Shares82-game average: 36G, 37A for 73P, +223-year peak (1970-73): 78-game average of 47G, 42A for 89P, +35Playoffs:64G (4th All Time),63A (16th All Time) for127P (8th All Time),+37 (t-9th All Time) in147 Games (8th All Time)Per Game:T-6th All Time in playoff GPG at his retirementT-25th All Time in playoff APG at his retirement11th All Time in playoff PPG at his retirementEra: Of the 54 skaters who played in at least 82 playoff games between 1963 and 1979, Cournoyer is1st in playoff Goals4th in playoff GPG7th in playoff AssistsT-16th in playoff APG3rd in playoff Points9th in playoff PPG8th in playoff Plus/Minus2nd  in playoff Games Rod Gilbert: 1960-78; 18 seasons, 13 quality Totals:406G (13th All Time at his retirement),615A (12th All Time at his retirement) for 1021P (12th All Time at his retirement),+38 in1065 Games;94.9 PS;At his retirement, Gilbert was 18th All Time in Offensive Point SharesPer Game: At his retirement, Gilbert wasT-17th All Time in APGT-18th All Time in PPGEra: Of the sixteen skaters to play in at least 984 games between 1960 and 1978, Gilbert is5th in Goals5th in GPG5th in Assists4th in APG5th in Points4th in PPG10th in Plus/Minus6th in Offensive Point Shares11th (7th Forward) in Defensive Point Shares6th in Point Shares9th in Games82-game average: 31G, 48A for 79P, +33-year peak (1973-76): 80-game average of 39G, 55A for 94P, +1Playoffs:34G (t-18th All Time at his retirement),33A for 67P,+8 in 79 GamesPer Game: At his retirement, Gilbert wasT-14th All Time in playoff GPG22nd All Time in playoff PPGEra: Of the 170 skaters to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1960 and 1978, Gilbert is12th in playoff GoalsT-10th in playoff GPG40th in playoff Assists35th in playoff APG23rd in playoff Points19th in playoff PPG67th in playoff Plus/Minus59th in playoff Games Norm Ullman: 1955-75; 20 seasons, 18 quality Totals:490G (8th All Time at his departure to the WHA),739A (4th All Time at his departure - Howe, Delvecchio, Mikita) for1229P (4th All Time at his departure - Howe, Delvecchio, Mikita),+7 in1410 Games (5th All Time at his departure - Howe, Delvecchio, Horton, Howell);118.4 PS (13th All Time at his departure);At his departure to the WHA, Ullman was 9th All Time in Offensive Point Shares and the 8th Forward All Time in Defensive Point SharesPer Game: At his departure to the WHA, Ullman wasT-18th All Time in APG11th All Time in PPGEra: Of the 15 skaters to play in at least 1066 games (13 modern seasons) between 1955 and 1975, Ullman is4th in Goals5th in GPG2nd in Assists6th in APG2nd in PointsT-5th in PPG8th in Plus Minus4th in Offensive Point Shares7th (4th or 4th Forward) in Defensive Point Shares4th in Point Shares1st in Games82-game average: 29G, 43A for 71P, 03-year peak (1964-67): 70-game average of 33G, 43A for 76P, +3Playoffs:30G (t-21st All Time at his departure to the WHA),53A (t-16th All Time at his departure) for83P (18th All Time at his departure)-22 in106 GamesPer Game: At his departure to the WHA, Ullman was22nd All Time in playoff PPGEra: Of the 51 skaters to play in at least 82 playoff games between 1955 and 1975, Ullman isT-15th in playoff GoalsT-17th in playoff GPGT-10th in playoff Assists10th in playoff APG12th in playoff Points13th in playoff PPG50th (2nd last) in playoff Plus/Minus20th in playoff Games Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co