Poverty isn’t just a lack of resources. Often, even after resources are available, poverty lingers.

My guest James Belt believes the problem is bigger than a lack of resources, wealth, or education.

Drawing from lessons from his new book, Hope Realized, James shares that a lie of hopelessness is holding people captive, preventing them from moving forward, and perpetuating global poverty.

James believes that we all can make a meaningful difference once we understand the missing piece we can offer.

Disclaimer: The views, opinions, beliefs, and resources shared in this podcast are those of the guests, and are not meant to be endorsements of the TIME with Fred Podcast.