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Career Practitioner Conversations is a podcast series from the National Career Development Association (NCDA). We provide research, resources, and support to career development professionals all over the world in their work to empower others to achieve their career and life goals. These conversations with industry experts cover a wide variety of relevant topics for today's career practitioners. Legal Disclaimer: NCDA provides these episodes solely for educational and informational purposes. Opinions expressed in these episodes do not necessarily reflect the views of NCDA. NCDA disclaims any liability relating to any podcast content. read less
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The Challenges of Today's Job Search with Jeanetta Warren and Paul Cecala
Jul 9 2024
The Challenges of Today's Job Search with Jeanetta Warren and Paul Cecala
Today’s job seekers face a host of challenges from ageism and ghosting to artificial intelligence tools and one-way interviews. This episode captures a conversation about these challenges with two members of the New Jersey Career Development Association’s Board of Directors. Jeanetta Warren is the founder and CEO of JW Professional Writing Services. Paul Cecala is the author of Take Control of Your Job Search and founder of Cecala Career Consultants, LLC.The discussion includes consideration of the employer side of the job search and the new technologies increasingly used by both companies and applicants. Jeanetta and Paul share strategies you can use to help your students and clients enhance their approach to preparing for the unique issues of today’s economy, set realistic expectations, and maximize their efforts to connect with hiring managers. ResourcesWorkable - Recruiting SoftwareSpark Hire - Interview SoftwareYoodli - Interview PrepTurbocharge Your Resume - Jeanetta's CourseTake Control of Your Job Search - Paul's BookMore information about Jeanetta and Paul:Jeanetta Warren is the visionary founder and CEO of JW Professional Writing Services, a global premium career branding agency. Jeanetta is a career branding strategist, professional resume writer, LinkedIn profile transformation expert, digital course creator, and educator. She has a master’s degree in administrative science from Fairleigh Dickinson University and a bachelor's degree in behavioral science from Wilmington University.Jeanetta is an advocate for DEIB in the workplace. She actively seeks opportunities to support students graduating from college and underrepresented professionals on their career journeys. Jeanetta was nominated for the Delaware Valley HR Consultant of the Year in 2024.Paul Cecala specializes in creating job search project plans and is recognized for his empathetic listening skills. He has assisted people from a variety of backgrounds with expertise in DEI&B (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion & Belonging), aviation, business leadership, project management, technology, pharma/biotech, and healthcare. Since 1999 Paul has assisted over 4000 job seekers ranging from C-Suite executives to college students. Paul currently facilitates job seeker networking groups for four different organizations. He has helmed the adult professional education programs for 2 colleges and a NJ Dept. of Labor One- Stop Career Center. Paul has his BS in Psychology from Florida Institute of Technology. He has published two books and numerous articles on career coaching in a variety of publications.Send us a Text Message.
Working with Mid- and Late-Career Clients
Apr 23 2024
Working with Mid- and Late-Career Clients
This episode is the third in a three-part series of conversations about career development and collaborative negotiation with Justin Wright (moderator), Tad Mayer, and Carly Inkpen – authors of Finding a Job that Loves You Back. They are joined by Courtney Warnsman, NCDA Trustee for Private Practice, Business-Industry and Agencies.  It is not uncommon to reach mid- or later career and not be sure that’s where you want to be. How are the career questions that people face different at this career stage? This conversation addresses mindset, changing fulfillment needs, access to resources, exploring new possibilities, and evaluating potential challenges and risks with compassion and advocacy in mind - shifting from guide to collaborator.Episode 1 - Coaching, Advising, and Counseling Skills: When Do you Use Each one?Episode 2 - Working with Reluctant NetworkersLearn more about the panel participants:Carly Inkpen is a social worker, writer, and visual artist. In each of these roles, they explore trauma, gender, migration, and how people inhabit their bodies as they move through the world. Carly holds an MSW from Smith College School for Social Work and a BA from the University of Arizona. They work as a psychotherapist and are currently training to practice as a psychedelic therapist. Carly's writing projects focus on gender identity, third culture kid experience, science fiction as social commentary, and psychoanalytic theory. Tad Mayer is a deeply curious one-on-one interaction junkie dedicated to rescuing clients’ inspiration and reaching that “A ha!” moment. He is focused on understanding motivation, enhancing behavior, and improving effectiveness. Tad is a career consultant and partner at Essex Partners, a national outplacement firm dedicated to helping senior executives find the right path forward. Tad’s previous professional roles have spanned Stage Electrician at Ballet West, Media Planner at DDB, Manager of Domestic Pricing at Northwest Airlines (now Delta), Director of Partner Marketing at Sheraton Hotels, and Director of Commercial & Corporate Programs at Mediation Works Incorporated (MWI). Courtney Warnsman, Ph.D. has been a career development facilitator for nearly 20 years. She works at Austin Career Connections in Austin delivering career transition and development services to individual clients across functional roles and industries. She is an Executive Development Program Consultant for the Baylor University Executive MBA Program and was recently tapped to serve on the advisory board of The Chiral Project, a startup venture exploring the unique challenges that women have experienced as they have either chosen or been forced to step back professionally during the Covid-19 Pandemic. Courtney received her Bachelor’s, Master’s and Doctoral degrees from the University of Texas at Austin.Justin Wright is the CEO of Habitus, a certified B Corporation. His work focuses on facilitating complex decision-making processes and coordinating collaboration between multiple stakeholders to empower collective action. Justin has worked with organizations including PolicyLink, the Other and Belonging Institute, MIT Office of Sustainability, and the B Corp Climate Collect to further their commitments to social justice, racial equity, and environmental sustainability. Justin seeks out this kind of work because of his Quaker commitment to peace, equality, and stewardship. Send us a Text Message.
Strategies for Working with Reluctant Networkers
Apr 9 2024
Strategies for Working with Reluctant Networkers
This episode is the second in a three-part series of conversations about career development and collaborative negotiation with Justin Wright (moderator), Tad Mayer, and Carly Inkpen – authors of Finding a Job that Loves You Back. They are joined by Courtney Warnsman, NCDA Trustee for Private Practice, Business-Industry and Agencies. The discussion describes networking as a fundamental concept of connecting with other people, with an understanding that every conversation is a kind of negotiation or exchange. The challenges faced by those with trauma histories and doubts about the possibility of trusting relationships are also addressed.Episode 1 - Coaching, Advising, and Counseling Skills: When Do you Use Each one?Episode 3 - Working with Mid- and Late-Career ClientsLearn more about the panel participants:Carly Inkpen is a social worker, writer, and visual artist. In each of these roles, they explore trauma, gender, migration, and how people inhabit their bodies as they move through the world. Carly holds an MSW from Smith College School for Social Work and a BA from the University of Arizona. They work as a psychotherapist and are currently training to practice as a psychedelic therapist. Carly's writing projects focus on gender identity, third culture kid experience, science fiction as social commentary, and psychoanalytic theory. Tad Mayer is a deeply curious one-on-one interaction junkie dedicated to rescuing clients’ inspiration and reaching that “A ha!” moment. He is focused on understanding motivation, enhancing behavior, and improving effectiveness. Tad is a career consultant and partner at Essex Partners, a national outplacement firm dedicated to helping senior executives find the right path forward. Tad’s previous roles  span Stage Electrician at Ballet West, Media Planner at DDB, Manager of Domestic Pricing at Northwest Airlines (now Delta), Director of Partner Marketing at Sheraton Hotels, and Director of Commercial & Corporate Programs at Mediation Works Incorporated (MWI). Courtney Warnsman, Ph.D., a career development facilitator for nearly 20 years, works at Austin Career Connections in Austin delivering career transition and development services to individual clients across functional roles and industries. She is an Executive Development Program Consultant for the Baylor University Executive MBA Program and was recently tapped to serve on the advisory board of The Chiral Project, a startup venture exploring the unique challenges that women have experienced as they have either chosen or been forced to step back professionally during the Covid-19 Pandemic. Courtney received her Bachelor’s, Master’s and Doctoral degrees from the University of Texas at Austin.Justin Wright is the CEO of Habitus, a certified B Corporation. His work focuses on facilitating complex decision-making processes and coordinating collaboration between multiple stakeholders to empower collective action. Justin has worked with organizations including PolicyLink, the Other and Belonging Institute, MIT Office of Sustainability, and the B Corp Climate Collect to further their commitments to social justice, racial equity, and environmental sustainability. Justin seeks out this kind of work because of his Quaker commitment to peace, equality, and stewardship. Send us a Text Message.
Coaching, Advising, and Counseling Skills: When Do You Use Each One?
Mar 26 2024
Coaching, Advising, and Counseling Skills: When Do You Use Each One?
This episode is the first in a three-part series with Justin Wright (moderator), Tad Mayer, and Carly Inkpen - authors of Finding a Job that Loves You Back -  who are joined by Courtney Warnsman, NCDA Trustee for Private Practice, Business-Industry and Agencies. The discussion begins with the development of working definitions of coaching, advising, and counseling as they relate to roles, methodologies, and skills and encourages using different approaches for different needs when working with clients within an ethical scope of practice.Episode 2 – Working with Reluctant NetworkersEpisode 3 – Working with Mid- and Late-Career ClientsLearn more about the panel participants:Carly Inkpen is a social worker, writer, and visual artist. In each of these roles, they explore trauma, gender, migration, and how people inhabit their bodies as they move through the world. Carly holds an MSW from Smith College School for Social Work and a BA from the University of Arizona. They work as a psychotherapist and are currently training to practice as a psychedelic therapist. Carly's writing projects focus on gender identity, third culture kid experience, science fiction as social commentary, and psychoanalytic theory. Their peer-reviewed article "Fabulousness - What the Doctor Ordered: Exploring the Intrapsychic Significance and Social Meanings of Fashion" was recently published in Psychoanalytic Social Work. Tad Mayer is a deeply curious one-on-one interaction junkie dedicated to rescuing clients’ inspiration and reaching that “A ha!” moment. He is focused on understanding motivation, enhancing behavior, and improving effectiveness. Tad is a career consultant and partner at Essex Partners, a national outplacement firm dedicated to helping senior executives find the right path forward. Tad’s previous professional roles have spanned Stage Electrician at Ballet West, Media Planner at DDB, Manager of Domestic Pricing at Northwest Airlines (now Delta), Director of Partner Marketing at Sheraton Hotels, and Director of Commercial & Corporate Programs at Mediation Works Incorporated (MWI). He has an MBA from The Tuck School at Dartmouth College and a BS in Communication Studies from Northwestern University.Courtney Warnsman, Ph.D. has been a career development facilitator for nearly 20 years. She works at Austin Career Connections in Austin delivering career transition and development services to individual clients across functional roles and industries. She is an Executive Development Program Consultant for the Baylor University Executive MBA Program and was recently tapped to serve on the advisory board of The Chiral Project, a startup venture exploring the unique challenges that women have experienced as they have either chosen or been forced to step back professionally during the Covid-19 Pandemic. Courtney received her Bachelor’s, Master’s and Doctoral degrees from the University of Texas at Austin.Justin Wright is the CEO of Habitus, a certified B Corporation. His work focuses on facilitating complex decision-making processes and coordinating collaboration between multiple stakeholders to empower collective action. Justin has worked with organizations including PolicyLink, the Other and Belonging Institute, MIT Office of Sustainability, and the B Corp Climate Collect to further their commitments to social justice, racial equity, and environmental sustainability. Justin sSend us a Text Message.
Career Exploration in High School with the College Board
Mar 19 2024
Career Exploration in High School with the College Board
This episode features a conversation with Yoko Kono, Director of Careers and Partnerships at the College Board, and Aurelia Moss, an experienced educator and middle and high school counselor. The conversation is led by NCDA’s Celeste Hall. Celeste has a long history with NCDA including serving as the Trustee for School Counselors and Specialists on the NCDA Board.Most people think about College Board in terms of college admissions only (i.e., PSAT, SAT). But College Board’s mission is to connect all students to opportunities after high school with a goal of providing every student with the tools to make informed decisions about their future. This conversation includes information and actionable strategies for working with high school students.Yoko Kono, Director of Careers and Partnerships at the College Board, has dedicated nearly a decade to the organization. Her focus lies in creating research-backed resources that empower students by enhancing their awareness of diverse career paths. With 15+ years of experience across U.S. and international contexts and a master’s degree in International Comparative Education from Stanford University, Yoko brings a wealth of insights to her role in advancing career and educational opportunities for students worldwide.Aurelia Moss is a retired high school counselor with more than 32 years of experience as a Mathematics teacher, School Counselor, and Assistant Principal. As a school counselor, Aurelia was known for her passion in assisting students in post-secondary planning, regardless of the career paths they desired to pursue. During her career, Aurelia has served in the public and private school sectors, elementary, middle school, high school, rural, suburban, and urban settings. Aurelia credits her high school counselor, Mrs. Wilhelmina Dean at Savannah High School in Savannah, Georgia for guidance that she provided during Aurelia’s college admissions and financial aid process. Aurelia serves on the Chatham County Department of Family and Children Services Board of Directors and the Advisory Board for Tharros Place, a residential shelter for teenage girls that are survivors of human trafficking. Aurelia is a member of the Georgia School Counselors Association.Celeste Hall, Coordinator of Career Coaching Certification for Virginia’s Community Colleges is a life-long educator. She currently provides training for career coaches, academic advisors, faculty and staff in career development concepts. She has been a teacher and counselor in K-12 schools and taught career development courses at the master’s degree level. Leadership roles in NCDA have included state chapter president, K-12 representative on the FCD Advisory Council, (now TEC) and the Board of Directors. She currently serves as the Credentialing Commissioner for the Certified School Career Development Advisor credential and as the editor for the K-12 section of NCDA’s Career Developments magazine.RESOURCESCollege Board BigFutureBigFuture-NCDA Family and Caring Adult  Table Talk Guide to Student Career Exploration and Planning - (PDF) – a College Board and NCDA collaboration BigFuture Counselor ToolkitCareer Insights Snapshot – connecting PSAT scores to high-demand careers at the state-level (coming Spring 2024)Send us a Text Message.
Career Development Around the World – Expats (Austria)
Feb 27 2024
Career Development Around the World – Expats (Austria)
This episode continues our “Career Development Around the World” series led by Dr. Lakeisha Mathews. Lakeisha is joined by Elizabeth Thomas, an American career counselor working in Vienna, Austria. Elizabeth shares her personal experiences with the challenges of working, and looking for work, outside of your home country. From language barriers and work permit requirements to labor market needs and local hiring practices, it’s important to understand requirements, set expectations, and prepare for success. Elizabeth also shares her perspective on career development work in Austria, which is often connected to career coaching and international relations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of the hidden job market around the world, the different role career can play in personal identity across cultures, and the many valuable skills that expats develop, such as problem solving and persistence. Guest BioElizabeth Thomas holds a Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology with a specialization in Career Counseling & Development from the University of Missouri – Columbia (USA). While a graduate student, Elizabeth worked in the MU Career Center, recognized as one of the most programmatically diverse centers in the country. Subsequently, Elizabeth continued helping university students in a career development context and, since moving to Vienna, Austria, in 2018, international and expatriate women. She has published and presented on a host of career development topics, most recently serving as the “Career Chat” columnist for the American Women’s Association of Vienna. Elizabeth is particularly interested in helping clients, no matter their age or stage, creatively and successfully navigate life transitions and discover how their unique talents, skills, abilities, and interests connect meaningfully to the world of work.ResourcesSuper’s Career RainbowKrumboltz – Planned HappenstanceNCDA’s Global Connections CommitteeNCDA on LinkedInSend us a Text Message.
Career Development Around the World - Colombia
Jan 23 2024
Career Development Around the World - Colombia
This episode continues our “Career Development Around the World” series led by NCDA Past President Dr. Lakeisha Mathews. And it’s our first bilingual episode. Lakeisha is joined by Marcela Mesa and Maria Clara Leal. Marcela is a psychologist and GCDF in Colombia. She is also co-chair of NCDA’s Global Connections Committee. Maria Clara is a psychologist and career guidance expert whose background in Colombia includes work with public policy and government agencies. She joins the conversation from Spain, with Katherine who provides translation.Unemployment rates are high in Colombia and there is a gap between what employers need and what they can find in job candidates. The many challenges include population changes related to immigration, the high school to work and college transition, and differing career development needs of those at different career stages. Marcela and Maria Clara share information about current programs and innovations in Colombia, conducting research that connects career development work to the economy, and the emergence of a socio-occupational guidance model that addresses the dynamic nature of society and the labor market.Marcela Mesa is a MSc Psychologist and GCDF in Cali, Colombia, with 24+ years of experience delivering career services in private practice, founder and CEO of Orientarte in Colombia (www.orientarte.com) and in the U.S., Orientarte LLC (www.liveyourdreamcareer.com ) aiming to deliver career services for Latinos living in the U.S. She can be reached at mmesa1019@gmail.comMaria Clara Leal  is a Psychologist with a Masters Degree in Anthropology and a Career Guidance Expert. For over a decade, from 2008 to 2020, Maria Clara Leal played a pivotal role in shaping Colombia's public policy on career guidance. Her contributions extended to various government agencies, including the Ministry of National Education, the Presidential Agency, the Ministry of Information and Telecommunications, the Family Welfare Institute, and the Secretary of Education in Bogotá. She can be reached at mariaclaralealmurillo@gmail.comRESOURCESReporte: El Futuro del Trabajo en América Latina Colombia: Economía y demografíaNuevas tendencias del mercado laboral en 2023 Estas son las principales tendencias del mercado laboral para este 2023Tendencias del mercado laboral en 2023: ¿Qué valoran los trabajadoresESTADÍSTICAS DE DESERCIÓN Y PERMANENCIA EN EDUCACIÓN SUPERIOR SPADIES 3.0 - Indicadores 2021 Diana Marcela Durán Muriel. Educación Superior en Cifras Edición No. 2 – II Semestre de 2023 Tránsito de la Educación Media a la Educación Superior: análisis comparativo del periodo 2016-2021 Send us a Text Message.
Interculturalism and the Responsibility of Leadership with Dr. Sujata Ives
Jan 9 2024
Interculturalism and the Responsibility of Leadership with Dr. Sujata Ives
In this episode, Dr. Sujata Ives talks with Melissa Venable, NCDA Director of Professional Development, about the important role of leadership in a world that is growing more diverse. Dr. Ives is the 2023 recipient of NCDA’s Diversity Initiative Award and the current president of the Maryland Career Development Association. She has a genetic condition that affects her vocal cords so that they don’t close completely, resulting in what she describes as a "jiggly" voice. What role are you taking in creating a world you can be proud of? Sujata shares her personal history adapting to a new culture and maintaining motivation for leadership work through experiencing self-discovery, developing change readiness, and focusing on sustainable impact at the individual level and locally. Sujata shares how she is incorporating these interests into her project as a current member in NCDA’s Leadership Academy. The conversation also explores ways we can all engage with NCDA’s growing international membership and issues a call for increased attention to mental health in career development.RESOURCES:NCDA’s Global Connections CommitteeUnited Nations Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs)BIO:Dr. Sujata Ives is a Workplace Global Consultant and the 2023 recipient of NCDA’s Diversity Initiative Award. She is currently in the NCDA Leadership Academy. She is president of the Maryland Career Development Association, where she also is Newsletter Editor and PR chair.Sujata is the Chair of the American Counseling Association’s International Committee; the Co-chair of the Programming Committee of the Asia Pacific Career Development Association; Community Coordinator for the World Council on Interculturalism and Global Competency, UNESCO; and a Board Advisor on the NFL Alum Performance Lab. She is in private practice where she works with clients through the bio-psycho-social-cultural-spiritual model. Look out for her book launch in April 2024, titled: Activate Success: Tips, Tools, & Insights To Be a Leader in Your Niche. Send us a Text Message.
Employer-Fit Algorithms and Corporate Culture with Dr. Bret Anderson
Oct 10 2023
Employer-Fit Algorithms and Corporate Culture with Dr. Bret Anderson
In this episode, Dr. Bret Anderson shares his work developing employer-fit algorithm tools and experience with a variety of corporate cultures with NCDA's Director of Professional Development, Melissa Venable. Bret is the President of h2 Communication, LLC, which provides job readiness training, executive coaching, and frontline leadership development. The conversation describes a current shift toward an expectation for work/life balance, led in large part by employees. The challenges of cross-generational workplaces are also addressed. Bret shares examples and observations about how different industries are reacting. The importance of understanding how all of this is impacting the individuals we are working with, along with ways to extend and augment traditional theories to meet the demands of quickly changing career development needs. ResourcesCAP42 Employer-Fit Algorithm AssessmentToxic Culture is Driving the Great Resignation -  MIT Sloan Management ReviewIs Quiet Quitting Real? – GALLUPState of the Global Workplace: 2023 Report - GALLUPInterview with David Larry Blustein on The Psychology of Working – eScholarship@BostonCollegeTop Predictors of Employee Turnover (Sull, Sull & Zweig, 2022):10.4% - Toxic Corporate Culture3.5% - Job insecurity and Reorganization3.2% - High Levels of Innovation2.9% - Failure to Recognize Employee Performance1.8% - Poor Response to COVID-19Send us a Text Message.