The Agentic Voice

The Agentic Voice Podcast

In this podcast we involve stakeholders such as laryngologists, allied health professionals, vocal coaches, voice users, patients, and scientists in on-going discussion on how trauma-informed voice care can advance health equity for vulnerable populations. We also aim to increase awareness of the effects of trauma on the voice, and the practices that improve vocal agency. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. read less
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Episodes

Erin Schmura on Embodying Trauma and Resilience
Oct 26 2023
Erin Schmura on Embodying Trauma and Resilience
Are trauma and resilience both embodied? Find out what Erin Schmura of Helou Laboratory and Schmura Studio has to say. Also tune in for a discussion of her capstone project at the University of Pittsburgh and her journey as a professional voice user and voice care practitioner. To request a free copy of the Voice and Trauma info-poster, go to https://www.voiceandtrauma.com/schmura-helou and follow the Google Form request steps.  The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References Aronson, A. E. (1990). Clinical voice disorders: An interdisciplinary approach (3. ed). Thieme. Becker, D. R., Welch, B., Monti, E., Sullivan, H., & Helou, L. B. (2022). Investigating Past Trauma in Laryngoresponders Versus Non-Laryngoresponders: Piloting New Methods in an Exploratory Study. Journal of Voice. Helou, L. B., Welch, B., Hoch, S., Gartner-Schmidt, J. (In Press). Self-reported stress, trauma, and prevalence of laryngoresponders in the general population. In press Mayne, G., Namazi, M. (2023). Social determinants of health: Implications for voice disorders and their treatment. American Journal of Speech Language Pathology.   Schmura, E., Helou, L. B. (2023) Voice and Trauma [Student Capstone Poster Project]. MA-SLP Concentration in Voice Program at the University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, PA, USA. Schmura, E. [Voice and Trauma Research and Connection Group]. (2023, February 17). The Kintsugi Larynx: Advocating Awareness Through Conversation [Video]. Vimeo.  Van der Kolk, B. A. (2015). The body keeps the score: Brain, mind, and body in the healing of trauma. Penguin Books.
Heather Gross on Shared Stories and Lived Experiences
Jul 5 2023
Heather Gross on Shared Stories and Lived Experiences
In episode 20, “Heather Gross on Shared Stories and Lived Experiences,” co-hosts Geneva Mayne and Kristen Ruiz chat with Heather Gross, MS, CCC-SLP, RYT of Live Vocally about how our voices become silenced and the healing process for unlocking a silenced voice. We also discussed the power of shared stories and lived experiences as part of a healing journey.  We were so grateful to have heard Heather Gross’s lived experience and hear how she supports others in their healing journeys. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References https://ndnr.com/pain-medicine/pain-as-teacher/ https://www.eomega.org/article/can-illness-be-an-opportunity https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5579396/ https://drjockers.com/vagal-tone/ VoyageLA (2022, June 27). Meet Heather Gross of Live Vocally Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2014). SAMHSA's concept of trauma and guidance for a trauma-informed approach.
Jonathan O. White on Racial Trauma and Resilience
Jun 14 2023
Jonathan O. White on Racial Trauma and Resilience
Is racial trauma really real? Find out what actor and speech-language pathologist Dr. Jonathan O. White of Elevated Speech Therapy and Talks With Jon, has to say about his own experiences with discrimination, posttraumatic growth and resilience.  The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References Mayne, G., Namazi, M. (2023). Social determinants of health: Implications for voice disorders and their treatment. American Journal of Speech Language Pathology.   Mayne, G., Patten, S. Namazi, M., (2022, April 25-27). An investigation into the relationship between social determinants of health and voice disorders [Poster Presentation]. Kean Research Days, Union, NJ, United States Viola, D. (2022). Finding Me. HarperOne      VoyageLA (2021, October 27). Life and Work with Jonathan White White, J. [Real Talks with John]. (2021, September 5). Why I quit my 100K career as a speech pathologist [Video]. YouTube.  Williams,  M.  T.,  Printz,  D.  M.  B.,  &  DeLapp,  R.  C.  T.  (2018). Assessing  racial  trauma  with  the  trauma  symptoms  of  discrimination  scale.  Psychology  of  Violence
Brian Gill on Agency Across Styles and Genres
May 8 2023
Brian Gill on Agency Across Styles and Genres
What is the biggest barrier to singing across genres or styles with ease? Find out in episode 17, “Brian Gill on Agency Across Styles and Genres.” In this episode co-hosts Geneva Mayne and Kristen Ruiz chat with Dr. Brian Gill, DMA, of Gill Mindful Voice Training about training singers to cross genres with ease.  For more information on The Science of the Singing Voice course mentioned during this episode, contact Dr. Johan Sundberg directly at jsu@kth.se. The course will take place in Sweden, June 10th-13th, 2023. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References Sundberg, J., La, F. M. B., & Gill, B. P. (2016). Voice Source Variation Between Vowels in Male Opera Singers. Journal of Voice.  Patel, R. R., Sundberg, J., Gill, B., & Lã, F. M. B. (2022). Glottal Airflow and Glottal Area Waveform Characteristics of Flow Phonation in Untrained Vocally Healthy Adults. Journal of Voice.  Gill, B. P., Lee, J., Lã, F. M. B., & Sundberg, J. (2020). Spectrum Effects of a Velopharyngeal Opening in Singing. Journal of Voice. Sundberg, J., La, F. M. B., & Gill, B. P. (2013). Formant Tuning Strategies in Professional Male Opera Singers. Journal of Voice.
Judith Wodzak on the Problem with Muscle Tension Dysphonia
Apr 18 2023
Judith Wodzak on the Problem with Muscle Tension Dysphonia
What exactly is the problem with muscle tension dysphonia? Listen to our chat with Judith Wodzak, M.A., CCC-SLP of Voices Ablaze to find out! The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References Gillespie, Amanda I., Jackie Gartner-Schmidt, Elaine N. Rubinstein, and Katherine Verdolini Abbott. (2013). Aerodynamic Profiles of Women with Muscle Tension Dysphonia/Aphonia. Journal of Speech, Language, and Hearing Research Mayne, G., Namazi, M. (2023). Social determinants of health: Implications for voice disorders and their treatment. American Journal of Speech Language Pathology. American Journal of Speech-Language Pathology Mayne, G., Wodzak, J. (2022, August 19-21) Pain, trauma, and the voice [Special Session].  Hybrid Pan-American Vocology Association Symposium. Minneapolis, MN, United States Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2014). SAMHSA's concept of trauma and guidance for a trauma-informed approach.  Wodzak, J. (2022). Past and current issues in functional voice disorder classification. Voice and Speech Review.
Jeremy de Tolly on Community and Connection
Mar 5 2023
Jeremy de Tolly on Community and Connection
In episode thirteen, “Jeremy de Tolly on Community and Connection,” co-hosts Geneva Mayne and Kristen Ruiz talk with Jeremy de Tolly about singing with joy, the importance of communities and connection, and regulating ourselves before, after and during performance tasks related to communication (e.g. singing and speaking). He reintroduces us to the concept of Ubuntu, a South African concept, brought to mainstream U.S. culture through the decolonizing work of Nelson Mandela and Bishop Desmond Tutu to end apartheid. Check out Jeremy’s website here. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References: Babbel, S., & Glenn, M. (2018). Heal the Body, Heal the Mind : A Somatic Approach to Moving Beyond Trauma. New Harbinger Publications. Benson, H., Beary, J., & Carol, M. P. (1974). The relaxation response. Psychiatry, 37, 37-46. Dusek, J. A., & Benson, H. (2009). Mind body medicine: A model of the comparative clinical impact of the acute stress and relaxation responses. Minnesota Medicine, 92(5), 47-50. Mischke-Reeds, Manuela. Somatic Psychotherapy Toolbox : 125 Worksheets and Exercises to Treat Trauma and Stress, PESI, 2018. ProQuest Ebook Central, https://www.worldcat.org/title/somatic-psychotherapy-toolbox-125-worksheets-and-exercises-to-treat-trauma-stress/oclc/1048925545. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2014). SAMHSA's concept of trauma and guidance for a trauma-informed approach.
Ring Out the Old and Ring in the New with PAVA
Feb 5 2023
Ring Out the Old and Ring in the New with PAVA
In episode eleven, Ring Out the Old and Ring in the New with PAVA, co-hosts Geneva Mayne and Kristen Ruiz discuss beliefs and practices to leave behind in 2022 on our way to implementing trauma-informed voice care. This episode was created with the Pan-American Vocology Association (PAVA).  Check out their website here. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References Delose. (2014). Forecasting self-control: how do people think about the difficulty of future self-control? [University of Georgia]. Garrity, A. W. (2022). The why, what, and how of trauma-informed educational practices. Perspectives of the ASHA Special Interest Groups. Green, J. & Spikins, P. (2020). Not just a virtue: the evolution of self-control, Time and Mind, 13(2) p.117-139 Maier, S. et al. (2015). Acute Stress Impairs Self-Control in Goal-Directed Choice by Altering Multiple Functional Connections within the Brain’s Decision Circuits. Neuron, 87(3) p521-631. Soutschek, A., et al. (2016) Brain stimulation reveals crucial role of overcoming self-centeredness in self-control. Science Advances, 2(10) p. 1-8. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2014). SAMHSA's concept of trauma and guidance for a trauma-informed approach.  Tullett AM, Inzlicht M. (2010). The voice of self-control: blocking the inner voice increases  impulsive responding. Acta Psychologica, 135(2) p. 252-256.
Responding through Policies
Dec 22 2022
Responding through Policies
In episode ten, Responding through Policies, co-hosts Geneva Mayne and Kristen Ruiz are joined by special guest Sean Moonsammy, a singer and voice-specializing speech language pathologist in New York City. They spoke about intersectionality, representation and responding to trauma through policies. The Allied Health Workforce Diversity Act of 2021 is designed to increase representation of underrepresented groups within rehabilitation professions such as speech-language pathology among others. Check out Sean’s advocacy work for the Allied Health Workforce Diversity Act of 2021 and his recent feature in the ASHA Leader. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References  Hutchins, Shelly D. (2022, January 8). Operatic SLP treats voice disorders with sensitivity. ASHA Leader. https://leader.pubs.asha.org/do/10.1044/leader.LML.27012022.28/full/  Sean Moonsamy. (2022, October 9). H.R.3320 - Allied Health Workforce Diversity Act of 2021 YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OT4CpklVpI  Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2014). SAMHSA's concept of trauma and guidance for a trauma-informed approach.
Agency Through Trustworthiness and Transparency
Dec 1 2022
Agency Through Trustworthiness and Transparency
In episode nine, Agency Through Trustworthiness and Transparency, co-hosts Geneva Mayne and Kristen Ruiz are joined by special guest Jillian Paige of Meisner in Music in New York City. They talked about gaining expressive freedom through acknowledging the truth of what we are feeling in the moment. Trustworthiness and transparency is one of the six key principles of a trauma-informed approach. Creating and inhabiting safe spaces where we are able to truthfully acknowledge what we are thinking and feeling is an important part of trauma-informed voice care. Mindful awareness of what we are thinking and feeling gives us freedom and agency to express ourselves authentically. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately.  References  Dunn, K. A.(2019). Hidden Damage: When Uninformed Casting and Actor Training Disregard the Effect of Character Embodiment on Students of Color. Theatre Symposium. 27, 68-79.  Esper W, DiMarco D. (2008). The Actor’s Art and Craft : William Esper Teaches the Meisner Technique. Anchor Books. Accessed October 27, 2022.  Meisner, S., & Longwell, D. (1987). Sanford Meisner on acting. New York, NY: Random House, Inc.  McLaughlin, J. A. (2012). Meisner across paradigms : the phenomenal dynamic of Sanford Meisner’s technique of acting and its resonances with postmodern performance. Accessed October 27, 2022.  Panero M. E. (2019). A Psychological Exploration of the Experience of Acting. Creativity Research Journal. 31(4), 428-442.  Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (2014). SAMHSA's concept of trauma and guidance for a trauma-informed approach.
Take Up Space
Nov 19 2022
Take Up Space
In episode eight, Take Up Space, co-hosts Geneva Mayne and Kristen Ruiz are joined by special guest, Marcia Lesser, a somatic experiencing practitioner. They discuss the psychological and physiological implications of contraction, or not “taking up space.” They explore the role of social interaction and socio-cultural systems on learning and development; and how these systems serve to enhance or inhibit learning & development. Marcia Lesser presents ideas and strategies for empowerment, by which one can learn to take up more space; thereby expressing one’s voice with freedom. Somatic Experiencing International (2021) describes their program as "a body-oriented therapeutic model applied in multiple professions and professional settings—psychotherapy, medicine, coaching, teaching, and physical therapy— for healing trauma and other stress disorders," (p. 5). To learn more about SE, see their website and media kit. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Our guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References Rogoff, B. (2003). The cultural nature of human development. New York: Oxford University Press. Vygotsky, L. S. (1994). The problem of the environment. In R. Van der Veer & J. Valsiner (Eds.), The V.Vygotsky-Y reader (pp. 338-354). Cambridge, MA: Blackwell. Vygotsky, L. (1978). Mind in society. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press.
Recognizing and Responding to Dissociation
Oct 23 2022
Recognizing and Responding to Dissociation
In episode 7, Recognizing and Responding to Dissociation, co-hosts Kristen Ruiz and Geneva Mayne talk with special guest, Dr. Elisa Monti, about how voice care workers can recognize and respond to dissociation within a trauma-informed approach. Dissociation can occur on its own or be a symptom of PTSD and functional neurological disorder with communication symptoms such as muscle tension dysphonia. The four assumptions of a trauma-informed approach are: realizing the prevalence of trauma, recognizing signs and symptoms of trauma, responding in policies, practices and procedures, and resisting re-traumatization. You can see examples of dissociation in the You’ll Say Nothing documentary bonus material. Dr. Monti is a voice-specialized experimental psychologist with a PhD from The New School for Social Research. In addition to the Voice and Trauma Research and Connection Group and the documentary, You’ll Say Nothing, you can learn more about Dr. Monti and her work at Monti Bianchi Performance Wellness. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Our guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. References American Psychiatric Association. (2022). Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders: DSM-5-TR. American Psychiatric Association Publishing. Baker, J., Barnett, C., Cavalli, L., Dietrich, M., Dixon, L., Duffy, J., Elias, A., Fraser, D., Freeburn, J., Gregory, C., McKenzie, K., Miller, N., Patterson, J., Roth, C., Roy, N., Short, J., Utianski, R., van Mersbergen, M., Vertigan, A., McWhirter, L. (2021). Management of functional communication, swallowing, cough and related disorders: Consensus recommendations for speech and language therapy. Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgeryand Psychiatry. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2014). SAMHSA's concept of trauma and guidance for a trauma-informed approach.  Schiavone, F. L., Frewen, P., McKinnon, M., & Lanius, R. A. (2018). The dissociative subtype of PTSD: an update of the literature. PTSD Research Quarterly, 29, 1-13.
Dismantling Power Imbalances
Oct 7 2022
Dismantling Power Imbalances
In episode 6, Dismantling Power Imbalances, co-hosts Kristen Ruiz and Geneva Mayne discuss manual therapy as an agentic practice with special guest, Walt Fritz, PT. Though manual therapies can be highly effective, it is important for clinicians to explain what they are doing and why before palpating, massaging or repositioning a patient’s larynx. We also discussed how shared decision-making can help build trust and create psychologically safe interactions where power is shared between clinicians and patients or educators and students. Shared decision-making is integrated in trauma-informed approaches under the key principles of collaboration and mutuality; empowerment, voice and choice; and trustworthiness and transparency. The Agentic Voice Podcast does not contain medical/health advice. The medical/health information provided is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Our guests and speakers reflect a variety of viewpoints that do not necessarily represent the views of The Agentic Voice Podcast. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately. Baker, J., Barnett, C., Cavalli, L., Dietrich, M., Dixon, L., Duffy, J., Elias, A., Fraser, D., Freeburn, J., Gregory, C., McKenzie, K., Miller, N., Patterson, J., Roth, C., Roy, N., Short, J., Utianski, R., van Mersbergen, M., Vertigan, A., McWhirter, L. (2021). Management of functional communication, swallowing, cough and related disorders: Consensus recommendations for speech and language therapy. Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery and Psychiatry. Ikeda, A. K., Hong, P., Ishman S. L., Joe, S. A., Randolph, G. W., Shin, J. J. (2018). Evidence-Based medicine in otolaryngology part 7: Introduction to shared decision making. Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery. Institute of Medicine, and on Value and Science-Driven Health Care Roundtable. Partnering with Patients to Drive Shared Decisions, Better Value, and Care Improvement : Workshop Proceedings, National Academies Press, 2014. ProQuest Ebook Central, http://ebookcentral.proquest.com/lib/lesley/detail.action?docID=3379341. Lincoln, Yvonna S., and Egon G. Guba. (2013). The Constructivist Credo, Taylor & Francis Group. http://ebookcentral.proquest.com/lib/lesley/detail.action?docID=1187038. Roy, N., Dietrich, M., Blomgren, M., Heller, A., Houtz, D. R., Lee, J. (2019). Exploring the neural bases of primary muscle tension dysphonia: A case study using functional magnetic resonance imaging. Journal of Voice. Stuart, T. S., Heckmann, S., Mattos, M., & Buffum, A. (2018). Personalized Learning in a PLC at Work TM : Student Agency Through the Four Critical Questions (Develop Innovative PLC- and RTI-Based Personalized Learning Programs). Solution Tree.