Rethinc Podcast

Rethinc Inc.

The way we work has a lot of us wondering if we should change jobs, shift careers, or finally chase some dream we’ve long imagined. For most of us, our work means much more than a paycheck - it’s our pride, our labor, and our contribution to a better world. So, who we work with and how we work - now more than ever - has become a big part of our day, our week, and our lives. On the Rethinc Podcast, Kate and the team bring their hearts and minds together with organizational, industry, and thought leaders to better understand what makes it hard, what it takes to make it better, and imagine a world in which strong human relationships actually helped us to get more done.

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Leveraging Relationships as a Currency to Heal Your Workplace w/ Talent Shepherd & Career Coach, Ron Rapatalo
Oct 2 2023
Leveraging Relationships as a Currency to Heal Your Workplace w/ Talent Shepherd & Career Coach, Ron Rapatalo
Rethinc co-founder, Kenan Bishop and guest, Ron Rapatalo explore leveraging relationships as a currency to build trust in the workplace. Ron Rapatalo is an entrepreneur, talent shepherd, career/executive/equity coach, public speaker, podcaster, best-selling author, and currently the president and CEO of the Rapatalo Group LLC.Ron’s career vision is coaching, connecting and inspiring others to find their best selves through healthier living, increased mindfulness and interconnection, and stronger intention and strategy.  He believes in the power of intuition and deepening one’s self-awareness and impact on others. He also believes that we must dismantle systems of oppression and racism to recover our fullest humanity With over 25 years of experience across non-profits, for-profits, and government, he has seen the power of leveraging the people who care about him personally and professionally.  In this episode Kenan and Ron unpack his book Leverage and what it means to actually leverage relationships at work. Hopefully this inspires you to take a step back, assess the relationships around you, and think about how you too can leverage them for the better.We also touch on:3:49– Healing workplaces with the currency of love & trust5:04– Connecting the dots7:14– Pros & cons of the manipulator14:03– Not caring about being liked23:17– Why are people leaving their jobs?27:16– Ron’s advice for those transitioning 31:58– Advice to leaders who have employees thinking about transitioning38:02– Honey vs vinegar Resources mentioned:Leverage the People Who Love and Care About You Personally and Professionally by Ron Rapatalo (not an affiliate link)Connect with Ron on LinkedInListen to his podcast: RonderingsJoin the conversation on our LinkedIn or Instagram & dive deeper into our work on our website here!
Naming the Different Values and Work Approaches of 4 Generations w/ Kenan Bishop
Aug 30 2023
Naming the Different Values and Work Approaches of 4 Generations w/ Kenan Bishop
Kate Gerson and co-founder, Kenan Bishop explore a tension that is felt across generations by all generations. This tension might show up as different expectations in career trajectory, communication styles, the differences in what an appropriate working hour is, how urgency shows up (or shouldn’t show up), and different definitions of productivity. Because we’re observing a lot of resentment, defensiveness, and frustration surrounding stereotypes of different generations we thought it would be helpful to name the differences so we can seek a new way of thinking about this so as not to villainize any one specific group. In this episode we break down four different generations: the boomers, the Gen X, millennials, and Gen Z.  Hopefully this inspires you to take a step back, recognize what each generation has gone through to mold where they stand today, and embrace these differences at work.We also touch on:2:27– Boomer’s formative experiences, their values, and stereotypes4:09– Gen X’s formative experiences, their values, and stereotypes6:14– Millennial’s formative experiences, their values, and stereotypes7:46– Gen Z’s formative experiences, their values, and stereotypes8:54– Examining and appreciating each generations formative years11:11– The unintentional parent-child dynamic 14:40– Naming both perspectives in generational conflict 18:19– Advocacy and the importance of listening 23:04– The kids table vs the adult table25:59– An unhealthy response from the youngs29:18– Building the foundations for hard interactionsJoin the conversation on our LinkedIn or Instagram & dive deeper into our work on our website here!
What It Looks Like When Teams Lean into Change Together w/ Kenan Bishop
Jul 31 2023
What It Looks Like When Teams Lean into Change Together w/ Kenan Bishop
Kate Gerson and co-founder, Kenan Bishop, unpack healing as a team effort, emphasizing that it is not merely an individual endeavor. . They explore recent learnings and its relationship to inclusivity, fostering a sense of belonging, and cultivating happiness.They delve into a compelling case study of a community navigating the path of collective healing unearthing the potent impact of talking about privilege. They also confront the societal consequences when the ability to explicitly identify and discuss racism is absent or suppressed.Kate and Kenan share stories that illustrate their immersion in communities engaged in this transformative work. Their experiences provide a tangible picture of what this looks like in practice, hopefully inspiring you to introspect on your personal engagement at work. In this episode, we also touch on:6:04 – Introducing the community case study 10:45– The power of talking about privilege16:03– Connecting points of connection20:41– Evidence signaling a desire for change25:55– The consequences of not addressing the proverbial  ‘elephant in the room’31:56– The learning potential in sharing your  lived experiences with others36:04– The reduction of harm through self-awareness and understanding40:28– Building spaces that encourage people to share their needs and vulnerabilities47:51– Identifying prevalent themes in groups who are collectively navigating changeJoin the conversation on our LinkedIn or Instagram & dive deeper into our work on our website here!
Black Women at Work: New Vision of Hard Work Rewarded w/ Dr. Brandy Nelson
Jun 12 2023
Black Women at Work: New Vision of Hard Work Rewarded w/ Dr. Brandy Nelson
In this episode, Kate is joined by partner, Dr. Brandy Nelson in a conversation about how our history has shaped our workplace, how black women specifically experience work differently, and the disconnect we’re seeing between the ‘youngs’ and the ‘olds’ at work.You see, history is a white man's story, and we’ve been taught by history books that the United States is the greatest country on Earth. We’re taught that the U.S. has fought hard to ensure equality for all. We’re taught that black people have never held positions of power, and only working hard will allow us to achieve the ‘American dream’. The truth is, we can't talk about "hard work" without understanding the oppressive systems in place. We also can’t ignore the new ways of work that the ‘youngs’ have brought into the workplace and how these ideas can be used for good.Tune in to this eye-opening conversation between two colleagues so that you may recognize how our history shapes the way we work and the mindset shifts you can embrace from the younger workforce. Key points that are explored:1:10– Exploring how we’re raised professionally and how it shows up at work4:04– Why has work productivity in the U.S. drastically decreased?12:59– Black women just experience work differently15:34– The history of the U.S. is founded on racist principles 21:44– Part of the problem lies in the hands of the leaders31:19– The broken connection between working hard and being rewarded39:12– Leveraging the ideas of our youthful workforce45:33– Urgency at work54:45– Leaving space for the new ways of beingJoin the conversation on our LinkedIn or Instagram & dive deeper into our work on our website here!
4 Approaches Leaders can Take with DEI Work w/ Dr. John E. Deasy
Apr 4 2023
4 Approaches Leaders can Take with DEI Work w/ Dr. John E. Deasy
Kate Gerson is joined by founding partner, Dr. John E. Deasy in conversation about the different approaches that many leaders take when it comes to the work of DEI. They explore the fact that there is no role for shame, what repair actually means, and what that looks like from a leadership standpoint. This episode's topic is grounded in building community, having grace for oneself, and honoring the developmental arch we are all moving through when it comes to diversity, equity, and inclusion. As a senior partner at Cambiar Education and former Superintendent at Stockton Unified Public Schools (among many other positions), Dr. John E. Deasy shares his insights, personal experiences, and advice for leaders seeking to do this work in a more meaningful and impactful way. Key points that are explored:1:38– An intro to John E. Deasy4:00– The pulse of the workplace 7:16– The 4 leadership approaches to DEI work10:35– What does repair work actually look like?17:00– What does it mean in an organizational context to repair harm?23:18– The reactive and impulsive responses to the work28:36– What happens when the response is, “We’re not talking about this anymore?”31:29– The awareness of the problem35:00–Do my struggles not matter?36:26– How the unknowing impacts the workplace40:50– To be in community means pushing your insecurities to the sideJoin the conversation on our LinkedIn or Instagram & dive deeper into our work on our website here!
How to Honor Grief and Heal at Work w/ gina Breedlove
Jan 5 2023
How to Honor Grief and Heal at Work w/ gina Breedlove
Kate Gerson engages in a thoughtful discussion with Rethinc Co-Founder and Chief Wellness Officer, gina Breedlove, about the power of care, grief, healing and dignity in the workplace. They explore the relationship between these concepts and how to create an environment that carries hope during difficult times. With trauma being so widespread amongst individuals now more than ever before, they emphasize how integral it is to establish systems of care where people have space to process their emotions while enhancing their quality of work - welcoming each person's humanity and honoring their wholeness.This episode offers an insightful lesson in the power of emotional healing - that grief, if not released from within us, can cause a heavy burden on every aspect of our lives. gina shares an approach to freeing this weight through an intentional crying practice that encourages us to give ourselves permission to cry and let go of any trapped emotions lurking within our bodies - allowing for greater wellbeing overall.In this episode, we discuss:01:55 – Introduction to gina Breedlove, Rethinc Co-Founder and Chief Wellness Officer04:06 – What does healing have to do with work?08:30 – Holding space for grief in the workplace12:45 – Moving grief in the body16:31 – Crying practice for moving grief20:45 – The importance of systems of care at work26:05 – How healing, grief, humanity, and race interact in the workplace28:40 – Fear of blame and the weaponization of shame35:41 – Being in interracial spaces and being in pain at the same time39:02 – Inclusive care and the role of holders at workJoin the conversation on our LinkedIn or Instagram & dive deeper into our work on our website here!
Belonging at Work: Re-Learning What Matters w/ Kenan Bishop
Dec 16 2022
Belonging at Work: Re-Learning What Matters w/ Kenan Bishop
Many people feel like they don't quite fit in at work, or that they don't quite know how to behave in order to feel like they belong. This can be a difficult feeling to shake, as the sense of not belonging can often lead to feelings of isolation and exclusion. However, there are ways to make an individual feel more connected and accepted in the workplace. In this episode, Kate Gerson sits down with Rethinc Co-Founder, Kenan Bishop, to discuss the concept of belonging in the workplace and how it affects employees on a daily basis. They dispel some of the myths around belonging and identify three specific behaviors that have an impact on an individual's sense of belonging at work.A fundamental lesson from this episode is that developing relationships with others at work doesn't have to come at the expense of being efficient. Too often, workplace cultures believe that human connection and efficiency are mutually exclusive goals. But it doesn't have to be that way. We can find ways to create a more inclusive environment for all employees without sacrificing productivity.We hope you enjoy this candid discussion on belonging between two of the most brilliant DEI practitioners of our day. Don't forget to take away what you learn and apply it within your own workplace. Workplace belonging is essential for every individual, no matter their background or identity. This episode of the podcast is dedicated to all those who are striving to create a more inclusive work environment and make everyone feel like they belong.In this episode, we discuss: 1:25 – Introduction to Kenan Bishop, Rethinc Co-Founder3:00 – Checking boxes vs. leaning into behavior change for belonging6:00 – What it truly means to belong at work and show up as one’s authentic self17:00 – The importance of human connection in collaborative performance19:30 – The art and science of becoming less of an a-hole as a leader25:30 – The role of race in the paradox of culture fit at work31:40 – Creating an environment of continuous feedback across lines of difference36:00 – The analogy between love languages and meeting people where they are at work41:00 – Honoring space for other perspectives without defendingJoin the conversation on our LinkedIn or Instagram & dive deeper into our work on our website here!
Understanding the Dynamics of Power in the Workplace w/ Dr. Brandy Nelson
Dec 1 2022
Understanding the Dynamics of Power in the Workplace w/ Dr. Brandy Nelson
Kate Gerson is joined by Rethinc partner, Brandy Nelson, in a thoughtful discourse about the implications of power dynamics within organizational culture. Lisa Delpit's 1988 article, “The Silenced Dialogue: Power and Pedagogy in Educating Other People's Children,” was used as an impetus to their discussion – analyzing how this age-old concept of power profoundly shapes our experiences even today. From unspoken codes of conduct to critical aspects of work culture embedded within organizations, they discussed how these factors influence everyday interactions between individuals across lines of difference and unpacked how these dynamics are often built upon preexisting ideologies supported by those with power.In this episode, we discuss:1:35 – Introduction to Dr. Brandy Nelson, Partner at Rethinc2:48 – Manifestations of power in the workplace8:08 – Lisa Delpit’s five aspects of power9:07 – Implicit codes that are enacted in the workplace15:40 – Access to power in relation to race20:31 – Those with power are frequently least aware of its existence28:00 – The importance of slowing down to listen36:08 – Disengagement in the workplace38:14 – What do I do now to turn the culture of my organization around?41:19 – The first step to change the culture of your company49:13 – The importance of company culture and how to empower employees56:37 – Leading in a way that acknowledges humanity1:04:20 – The relationship between leadership and careJoin the conversation on our LinkedIn or Instagram & dive deeper into our work on our website here!