Charnell had the privilege of completing a phone interview with Judy's daughter Kaylynn Malinowski to get the real story about Judy's courage, strength and determination. Judy was set on fire and sustained burns over 95% of her body after trying to leave her abusive partner. She lived for nearly two years in order to seek justice for herself and change laws for others. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious  Music By: Michael Drzewiecki  Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox The Fire That Took Her | Official Trailer - YouTube She was burnt alive by the man she loved. Then Judy Malinowski testified at her own murder trial | The IndependentInterview completed with Kaylyn Malinowski

Zachary went missing on Feb 6, 1996 while walking to school. Although investigators believe that in all likely-hood Zach fell victim to convicted child sexual predator David Brown aka Nathaniel Bar-Johnah, his body has never been recovered and his mother has reasons of her own to believe he may still be alive.  Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious  Music By: Michael Drzewiecki  Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox  A Parasite in the Mind: A Journey Through The Dark Boroughs Of A Pedophilic Cannibal's Mind.  Espy, John C. (2014-09-23)Karnac Books. ISBN 9781781813522. Eat the Evidence: A Journey Through The Dark Boroughs Of A Paedophilic Cannibal's Mind. Espy, John C. (2014).Karnac Books. ISBN 978-1782200338.  Nathaniel Bar-Jonah - Wikipedia "New York Times, "Charges Dropped In Child Killing," October 3, 2002". The New York Times. 3 October 2002. Archived from the original on December 3, 2007. "The Charley Project: Zachary Xerxes Ramsay". www.charleyproject.org. Archived from the original on 2016-04-02. Most Evil on Discovery ChannelDiscovery Channel Most Evil

Part Two of the David Brown case, otherwise known as Nathaniel Benjamin Levi-Bar Jonah. He was a serial criminal of the worst proportions. His primary victims were young boys, but he did commit crimes against young girls as well. The totality of his victims and crimes will never really be known. Originally from Massachusetts, David is suspected of sexually assaulting and murdering children across the country before finally being convicted in Montana. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious  Music By: Michael Drzewiecki  Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox  A Parasite in the Mind: A Journey Through The Dark Boroughs Of A Pedophilic Cannibal's Mind.  Espy, John C. (2014-09-23)Karnac Books. ISBN 9781781813522. Eat the Evidence: A Journey Through The Dark Boroughs Of A Paedophilic Cannibal's Mind. Espy, John C. (2014).Karnac Books. ISBN 978-1782200338.  Nathaniel Bar-Jonah - Wikipedia "New York Times, "Charges Dropped In Child Killing," October 3, 2002". The New York Times. 3 October 2002. Archived from the original on December 3, 2007. "The Charley Project: Zachary Xerxes Ramsay". www.charleyproject.org. Archived from the original on 2016-04-02. Most Evil on Discovery ChannelDiscovery Channel Most Evil

David Brown otherwise known as Nathaniel Benjamin Levi-Bar Jonah was a serial criminal of the worst proportions. His primary victims were young boys, but he did commit crimes against young girls as well. The totality of his victims and crimes will never really be known. Originally from Massachusetts, David is suspected of sexually assaulting and murdering children across the country before finally being convicted in Montana.  Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious  Music By: Michael Drzewiecki  Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox  A Parasite in the Mind: A Journey Through The Dark Boroughs Of A Pedophilic Cannibal's Mind.  Espy, John C. (2014-09-23)Karnac Books. ISBN 9781781813522. Eat the Evidence: A Journey Through The Dark Boroughs Of A Paedophilic Cannibal's Mind. Espy, John C. (2014).Karnac Books. ISBN 978-1782200338.  Nathaniel Bar-Jonah - Wikipedia "New York Times, "Charges Dropped In Child Killing," October 3, 2002". The New York Times. 3 October 2002. Archived from the original on December 3, 2007. "The Charley Project: Zachary Xerxes Ramsay". www.charleyproject.org. Archived from the original on 2016-04-02.  Most Evil on Discovery ChannelDiscovery Channel Most Evil

We did something a little different today and interviewed corrections officer and author James Michel. He brought great insight into what it is like to be a corrections officer and work with the criminals we cover every week on this show, and tells us about his work outside of the prison as a fiction crime author. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious Music By: Michael Drzewiecki Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox Personal interview completed with James Michels on 4/16/23. Find James work on his website here and links to his books below as well!  https://jamesmichelsbooks.com/ https://a.co/d/4NCtmxR Icebox https://a.co/d/68pfuLk https://a.co/d/8gORuOz Life’s Dark Corners https://a.co/d/bdOMONQ

Megan is bringing us another case this week....we unintentionally went with a doll theme this month. This case comes to us from over the pond as we say, and although it was finally solved who the Jane Doe really was....the ride the case takes to get it solved is WILD. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious  Music By: Michael Drzewiecki  Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox

Megan is bringing us the case of Donna Doll, a young college student that went missing Oct 2, 1970 after her shift at her job at the library. This case is still unsolved today. If you have any information please reach out to the Dekalb County Sheriff's Department. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious  Music By: Michael Drzewiecki  Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox

The conclusion of the Kelley Clayton Murder trial, this one Megan takes us through the weeks long trial of Kelley's husband and the outcomes. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious  Music By: Michael Drzewiecki  Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox

Kelley was a gorgeous mother of two with what seemed on the outside like a very typical American dream life, living in a safe small town in New York. All of that changed with Kelley was found murdered in her home while she was home alone with her two children. Megan takes us through a very deep dive of the case, the evidence and the two trials that occurred against Kelley's husband and his murder for hire accomplice. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious  Music By: Michael Drzewiecki  Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox

We did something a little different to break up all the murdery things. Today we invited a close personal friend of ours into the studio to share his incredible survival story as a police officer who was severely injured while on duty. Wes takes you through what inspired him to be a cop, and how he came to be the detective he is today despite what could have been a career ending (and life ending) event. Personal Interview with Wes Ludeker on 3/5/2023 Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious  Music By: Michael Drzewiecki  Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox

Joe Clark may have acted like a typical 17 year old, going to parties with his girlfriend and hanging out with friends...but he had a deep secret that he kept between himself and his "list." The list contained names by category of "can wait" "get to now" and "the leg thing." Take a listen to hear one of the most disturbing fetish crimes we have covered to date. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon https://www.buymeacoffee.com/crimecurious Music By: Michael Drzewiecki Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox

Join us for the unimaginable story of beautiful Morgan Patton as told to us by her amazing parents Steve and Renee Patton. Morgan was a talented, intelligent and family oriented woman with big plans for her future. On a trip to see her fiancé stationed in North Carolina just hours after texting her parents that she was headed to bed at her hotel...Morgan's parents are woken in the night by a police officer telling them that, Morgan had been killed in a high speed car accident with two other men. Morgan did not know these men, and never would have left willingly with them. There is more that needs looked into here, and Morgan's parents (and we at crime curious) want proper justice for their daughter. Sources: Interview completed with Steve and Renee Patton on 2/12/2023 Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon Music By: Jonas Bjornstand Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox

Three year old Amari Boone was placed in the care of two friends Deondrick Foley and Joseph Delancy through a Fictive Kin placement while their mother sought treatment for substance abuse. While in the placement signs were repeatedly ignored that Amari was being abused.    Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon Don’t want to become a monthly subscriber but want to show us some love and support? Donate to us through Crime Curious Podcast (buymeacoffee.com) here!  Music By: Michael Drezewiecki Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox Amari Boone Should Still Be Alive Today. But He Died in Foster Care Last Year. | Dallas Observer Suit filed by dead toddler’s parents says foster care agency ignored signs boy was being abused (dallasnews.com) Mother of Boy Who Died in State Custody Says She Warned CPS He Was in Danger – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth (nbcdfw.com) Grand jury indicts 2 men in connection to 3-year-old boy's death | wfaa.com Toddler tortured to death after social workers gave him to two men who knew his mother | Metro NewsToddler tortured to death after social workers gave him to two men who knew his mother | Metro News

The conclusion to the very disturbing case of Louis Gumpenberger and Betsy Faria that Megan has brought us with her deep diving research.  Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon Don’t want to become a monthly subscriber but want to show us some love and support? Donate to us through Crime Curious Podcast (buymeacoffee.com) here! Music By: Jonas Bjornstand Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/art-books-music/a39650950/who-was-the-real-pam-hupp-the-killer-at-the-center-of-the-thing-about-pam/ https://dotcomstories.com/louis-gumpenberger-murder/ https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/thing-about-pam/ https://www.stlmag.com/longform/pam-hupp/  The unimaginable, infamous case of Pam Hupp A tangle of lies, greed, sex, and death—and a surprise arrest BY JEANNETTE COOPERMAN JANUARY 19, 2017 https://www.oxygen.com/all/pam-hupp https://www.scarymommy.com/pam-hupp-serial-killer https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/pam-hupp-trial-moved-greene-county-she-faces-the-death-penalty/63-7fd06c3c-2161-4132-a2c5-4aec9a3cae29 https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/5-things-to-know-about-pam-hupp-and-the-murder-of-betsy-faria https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hdWRpb2Jvb20uY29tL2NoYW5uZWxzLzQ5OTcyMjAucnNz/episode/Z2lkOi8vYXJ0MTktZXBpc29kZS1sb2NhdG9yL1YwL1c3aDNOS2xFeXZZV0pYdGQ3ZzdoS2NBTi1kV0F1bThLcHVjZEstVHlpNjQ?hl=en&ved=2ahUKEwikqszyy978AhUBkmoFHakaBXQQjrkEegQICBAL&ep=6 https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/stltoday/name/elizabeth-faria-obituary?id=2971295 https://gossipnextdoor.com/louis-gumpenberger-bio-obituary-wife-pam-hupp/

Megan is bringing you her very first deep dive in a well known case from her educated perspective. It is not often that we bring heavily covered cases to the podcast but even if you have heard this case before, hopefully you will learn something from this legal perspective. Besty Faria was found dead by her husband in her home with a knife sticking out of her neck and her wrist cut nearly to the bone. Through manipulation and narrow focus of investigatory work Betsy's husband was wrongfully imprisoned for three and a half years. Then in 2016 a man named Louis Gumpenberger was shot dead by a woman named Pam Hupp. Hupps defense was not so well thought out this time however. Take a listen to hear how these crimes have come together. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon Don’t want to become a monthly subscriber but want to show us some love and support? Donate to us through Crime Curious Podcast (buymeacoffee.com) here!  Music By: Jonas Bjornstand Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/art-books-music/a39650950/who-was-the-real-pam-hupp-the-killer-at-the-center-of-the-thing-about-pam/ https://dotcomstories.com/louis-gumpenberger-murder/ https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/thing-about-pam/ https://www.stlmag.com/longform/pam-hupp/  The unimaginable, infamous case of Pam Hupp A tangle of lies, greed, sex, and death—and a surprise arrest BY JEANNETTE COOPERMAN JANUARY 19, 2017 https://www.oxygen.com/all/pam-hupp https://www.scarymommy.com/pam-hupp-serial-killer https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/pam-hupp-trial-moved-greene-county-she-faces-the-death-penalty/63-7fd06c3c-2161-4132-a2c5-4aec9a3cae29 https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/5-things-to-know-about-pam-hupp-and-the-murder-of-betsy-faria https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hdWRpb2Jvb20uY29tL2NoYW5uZWxzLzQ5OTcyMjAucnNz/episode/Z2lkOi8vYXJ0MTktZXBpc29kZS1sb2NhdG9yL1YwL1c3aDNOS2xFeXZZV0pYdGQ3ZzdoS2NBTi1kV0F1bThLcHVjZEstVHlpNjQ?hl=en&ved=2ahUKEwikqszyy978AhUBkmoFHakaBXQQjrkEegQICBAL&ep=6 https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/stltoday/name/elizabeth-faria-obituary?id=2971295 https://gossipnextdoor.com/louis-gumpenberger-bio-obituary-wife-pam-hupp/

We saved a very special case near and dear to our hearts for our 200th episode. This is the conclusion to the Molly Young Case. If you feel so inclined you can click the links below to join the fight for Justice for Molly. Molly Marie Young – unique, compassionate, and talented. | Citizens Against Homicide Illinois Attorney General - Contact Us Molly Young Memorial Foundation - Justice, Non Profit (justiceformolly.org) Interviews and emails with Larry Young- Molly’s father. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon Don’t want to become a monthly subscriber but want to show us some love and support? Donate to us through Crime Curious Podcast (buymeacoffee.com) here!  Music By: Jonas Bjornstand Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox

Molly Young was a beautiful 21 year old with her entire life ahead of her. Until one fateful day in March 2012 when everything changed for Molly and her family. A phone call to the Carbondale Illinois 911 dispatch indicated that Molly had taken her own life via overdose. When EMT's arrive however, they recognize right away this is no overdose considering Molly had an obvious gunshot wound to the left side of her head. The details of this case will shock and horrify you, and hopefully inspire you to a call to action like it did for us.  Molly Marie Young – unique, compassionate, and talented. | Citizens Against Homicide Illinois Attorney General - Contact Us Molly Young Memorial Foundation - Justice, Non Profit (justiceformolly.org) Interviews and emails with Larry Young- Molly’s father. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon Don’t want to become a monthly subscriber but want to show us some love and support? Donate to us through Crime Curious Podcast (buymeacoffee.com) here!  Music By: Jonas Bjornstand Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox

Ann Marie was only 8 years old when her mother woke up at 5:00 A.M. with a mother's intuition that something was terribly wrong. The front door was unlocked and ajar. The living room window was open wide, and Ann Marie was not in her bed. The theories of this case will shock you and we can't wait to hear what you all think possibly happened.  Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon Don’t want to become a monthly subscriber but want to show us some love and support? Donate to us through Crime Curious Podcast (buymeacoffee.com) here!  Music By: Jonas Bjornstand Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox Ann Marie Burr, The Possible First Victim Of Ted Bundy (allthatsinteresting.com) Disappearance of Ann Marie Burr - Wikipedia Ann Marie Burr – The Charley Project Ann Marie Burr, 8, disappears from her Tacoma home on August 31, 1961. - HistoryLink.org

Don't skip the very, very beginning before the intro music or you will miss the special announcement. Although this case is not as long as our typical style, we still think it is important to cover and remember. Wishing you all the best in 2023. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon Don’t want to become a monthly subscriber but want to show us some love and support? Donate to us through Crime Curious Podcast (buymeacoffee.com) here!  Music By: Jonas Bjornstand Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox James Huberty | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers San Ysidro McDonald's massacre - Wikipedia 21 Photos of the Horrific 1984 California McDonald's Massacre (historycollection.com) Remembering the San Ysidro McDonald’s Massacre 37 Years Later – NBC 7 San Diego (nbcsandiego.com)

Teresita Basa was a respiratory therapist at Edgewater Hospital outside of Chicago Illinois just living a normal quiet life. That is until she was found naked, stabbed to death and burned in her own apartment. Who would want to do such a thing to a quiet woman with a soft heart? The police have no leads, until months later when they receive a tip from Teresita herself...but how is this possible? She has been deceased for nearly 6 months. Join Patreon here to binge bonus content! Crime Curious is creating a kick-ass exclusive listener experience | Patreon Don’t want to become a monthly subscriber but want to show us some love and support? Donate to us through Crime Curious Podcast (buymeacoffee.com) here! Music By: Jonas Bjornstand Cover Art By: Charnell Lennox How The Ghost Of Teresita Basa Solved Her Murder - Historic Mysteries How Teresita Basa's 'Ghost' May Have Solved Her Murder (allthatsinteresting.com) Amazon.com: The Awake Dreamer: A Guide to Lucid Dreaming, Astral Travel, and Mastering the Dreamscape: 9781642970401: Fey, Samantha: Books