In this episode, Jaime Catmull is joined by Andy Hill of the Marriage, Kids, and Money podcast. Andy discusses tackling debt with his wife, being intentional about spending habits, and how parenthood made him rethink what type of "rich" he wanted to be. Jaime asks Andy how long it took him to eliminate his debt, tips for others on their getting out of debt journey, the feeling of becoming a millionaire, and what it truly means to "Live Richer."