Dr. Michael Gervais is a sport and performance psychologist who coaches the best in the world – but how did he recover from a devastating rejection to become one of the best in his field? I sat down with him here in New York to find out.

1:22 – Diving into the conversation

5:11 – The worst moment of Dr. Mike’s professional career

10:08 – The downsides of working from revenge

12:45 – What it takes to be the best in the world

13:53 – Fear of people’s opinions

16:11 – The phases of FOPO

24:38 – How Dr. Mike recovered from an outraged interviewee

30:03 – How Dr. Mike would like his work to impact others

34:26 – When your values have been challenged

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